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Old 05-23-2007, 01:40 PM
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Question..wha should i do?

i installed my sound system a couple monthes ago and my lights are still dimming from all the power the system is taking up...i already have a 6farad capacitor and was thinking about buying another one but my friend says i should just buy an optima battery and it would be enough plus the fact im getting a new battery...so should i jus buy another capacitor ($80) or should i buy a new battery (<150)? also any recommendations in which battery to buy if i should buy 1?
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6 farad?! how much power are you running? I would say a new battery, and maybe a new alternator or a rewind of the stock one. It sounds like you are using a **** ton of power if you need a 6 farad cap
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whats the wattage on your system? The yellow top batts are really good. my buddy had the same problem and he bought one....poroblem solved!
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I would buy one of the optima yellow top batteries thats what I have in my car and I have no dimming at all
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I would buy the Yellow Top, Kinetics Cap-Killer, or Stinger battery and return the Cap that you have. If you have a 6 farad cap that you bought for 80 bucks it is probably not a very good cap. Even Pyle's 6 farad caps are like $150, and Pyle is pretty low level stuff IMO. Either that or you have a really high drawing system and if that is the case you will dim no matter what if you don't upgrade your alternator.
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Hahaha, you're car dims?

Mine stalls if I idle it and turn it up too loud
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^^^^ damm its like that

changing the alternator i think is a little much and also too much work i heard so im tryin to avoid it...but yea i was lookin at the yellow or red top batteries that my friend told me about...i dont think my capacitor is bad though (i heard from my friend that works at best buy that power acoustiks are good) but i dont know maybe u right...

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Go for a new battery.

But seriously, my car really does stall, so I can relate to you.

I have Four 12's and Two 1200 watt amps, looking to combine into one big 3000-4000watt amp soon.

Have you done the "Big 3" mod yet?
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damm i never heard of a car stalling cause theres too much power but thats crazy....wow i didnt know u could fit four 12's in our small trunk, must be crowded in there espicially with the amps too...i got two 12's with a 1100 watt amp on each n an interior amp...what "big 3" mod u talkin about?
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Originally Posted by PaPiiShAmPuU
damm i never heard of a car stalling cause theres too much power but thats crazy....wow i didnt know u could fit four 12's in our small trunk, must be crowded in there espicially with the amps too...i got two 12's with a 1100 watt amp on each n an interior amp...what "big 3" mod u talkin about?
I ran a string of 1/0 guage wire to my alternator.

I can't imagine you having so much problems with just 1100 watts. I don't even have a capacitor, and i'm running stock electrical.

For burp competitions, If I rev the car to 2500rpm in neutral (to get the most out of my alternator) and burp the system, the rpm will drop to 1500rpm if I dont compensate by pressing the gas. Thats an idea of how much strain the alternator can put on the engine.
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o0o ok i get u....well its not only 1100....with evrything put together its over 4000 watts
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What you need to do is install a seperate battery along with a battery isolator for the stereo system.

That's the RIGHT way to fix the dimming lights. An alternator upgrade wouldn't hurt either, but it's not necessary.

If you plan on spending time with the stereo on with the car off, a YellowTop Optima battery would be perfect. It's a deep cycle battery which takes a recharge well.

Here's the isolator you need.
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Originally Posted by xtremeGM
I would buy one of the optima yellow top batteries thats what I have in my car and I have no dimming at all
those bad boys are cash money dolla dolla bill
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Originally Posted by aj_92rs
What you need to do is install a seperate battery along with a battery isolator for the stereo system.

That's the RIGHT way to fix the dimming lights. An alternator upgrade wouldn't hurt either, but it's not necessary.

If you plan on spending time with the stereo on with the car off, a YellowTop Optima battery would be perfect. It's a deep cycle battery which takes a recharge well.

Here's the isolator you need.
This is also a good fix. Its been a long time since I was into stereos, and a rewind was something that I had looked into once... heh, guess I am a n00b
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a 6 farad capas is a little much dont u think... My lights dimmed with 1500 watts so it makes sence to me. The capas isnt gonna do u any good if the battery cant keep it going in lamens terms. A yellow top battery will do u alot of good, try one for starters. If problem isnt solved then another will DEF take care of the problem. And as a alternator change. No Definatley not, HC Amps is the only reason to upgrade to a new alternator. If you feel it a need be, u can get better brushes, ect and "upgrade" the stock alternator, roughly 80-120ish bucks.

P.S. im on pain medication for my ankle so its the spelling is off or it doesnt make sence, im not all "here"
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May i ask what amps you're running to acheive 4000 watts?
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i got a feeling thats peak power... btw hack if you check out the amps in my sig its over 4k rms
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Hell, you guys are running crazy power. What do you need that much juice for anyway? Buy more efficient speakers.
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Subscribed...need some of the info off here to get my lights to stop dimming also. lol..I'm not runnin near as much as ya'll though.
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never thought of buying a separate battery but thats a good idea, i think i might go with that since it is cheaper than the yellowtop battery but the thing is how would i do this and where would i place it...n i might also (in the future) get the optima battery since i do want 2 spend time with the stereo on with the car off...but yea ur feeling was right emperor, it is peak power but thats what counts when you putting capacitors and want to kno how much wattage your whole system is using..and 6farad cant be too much cause each farad can handle 500 watts rms meaning that it shouldve been just enough for my 3000rms system unless i was wrong n 1 farad could only handle 500watts peak which than wouldnt have been enough ....anyways i think 4000rms is a little too much as my ears hurt when i put the volume over 50...
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Easy. Build, or have someone build you a holder some where in your truck. Where ever you feel best fit for it. Run your wires from one batter to the other so your alternator charges both batteries. Just leave your first battery hooked like normal, and use your new battery to run your amps. Use your capacitor and you should be good to go.
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Originally Posted by InfinityzeN
Hell, you guys are running crazy power. What do you need that much juice for anyway? Buy more efficient speakers.
lol i still havent choose my woofers yet... but i noticed in your sig it says u are in iraq.... I got so much respect for you stay safe and come home asap
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Heh, maybe it is just me being an old fart and not liking to crank the system in my show truck above about 20% (heh, 147dB SQ+ system). I bet cha I hit that with a lot less power then all you guys are running two. Hell, I don't think I even had 2000 watts RMS. Closer to 1.5k RMS.
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Originally Posted by Black06SSNA
Easy. Build, or have someone build you a holder some where in your truck. Where ever you feel best fit for it. Run your wires from one batter through a battery isolator to the other so your alternator charges both batteries. Just leave your first battery hooked like normal, and use your new battery to run your amps. Use your capacitor and you should be good to go.
Sorry, but I have to add that.

Running two batteries without an isolator is harder on both batteries and the alt. One battery will always be discharging into the other (whichever is the "weaker") and the alt. will always be working trying to charge two batteries.

Trust me on this. A 12V lawnmower or motorcycle battery with a battery isolator installed will work better and last longer than two Optimas without an isolator, hypothetically speaking of course.



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