Originally Posted by tube

Laser jammers aren't illegal, at least in Michigan; got one on the Benz.

Originally Posted by EtyrnuSS

One little thing, and I have this direct from friends in law enforcement. he radar/laser is the LAST step in judging your speed. They are supposed to VISUALLY gauge your speed first, and then use the radar/laser to confirm it. This is why you can get pulled by an officer who does not have a radar/laser in his car. And they don't have to be right next to you to do it.

Originally Posted by Bowtied

What you are describing is called "triggering" and is illegal in most states now, because to be totally accurate on radar, it takes a couple of seconds to be accurate when first turned on, so the experts say. Laser is always like you said. You judge their speed, aim the laser at the intended car and pull the trigger. It fires a laser beam and it's instant. A cop CANNOT use a laser when they are moving. You must be at a stop to use laser. If a cop is following behind you and they tell you they got you on laser, they're lying.

Originally Posted by EtyrnuSS

You might have misunderstood. I was pointing out that they DON"T have to use radar or a laser to gauge your speed. One trick they use around here is unmarked vehicles to pace you and radio in to a marked unit, or just unmarked but with lights and in uniform. You never know you've been tagged until you have blues in your rearview. If the cop is doing his job right, your radar detector is useless.

Originally Posted by Bowtied

ahhh, an area I have a lot of knowledge in! Radar detectors can work ONLY if there is traffic in front of you. If you're rolling solo down a road to a cop running radar, NO and I repeat NO radar will garauntee safety. Laser detectors (and you must repeat this too yourself) DO NOT WORK!! The only laser you can beat is with a jammer and they're illegal and the fine is HUGE! Plus cops know when you have one, so they'll strip your car to find it! If you pass a cop and your detector goes off and you're speeding, doesn't mean it worked! LOL! I love that part when people say that! It means that many things could be happening in the patrol vehicle. He's not paying attention because he/she has it on a set speed alarm and is ready the paper, napping, whatever and they're not sure of the car because now you've hit the brakes, or the cop doesn't care, you're speeding but not enough to give up their spot, cause they just got there and some other **** nut will be bye in the next 30 min or so going faster. There's many more too. Just consider yourself blessed or lucky and cruise on. Oh, and if you do get stopped and the cop says he/she got you on radar, then you ask if the A/C was on in the car and if they say yes, then politely ask the cop to put that in the remarks box. A/C in the patrol cruiser makes radars inaccurate!
Now some people will say that some or all of this in not true. Too you I say whatever. I've spent many a class hours teaching and receiving info on traffic enforcement. If you are saying it's not true, but know it really is, then I say to you, what department do YOU work for? If you speed you will simply have to take your lumps when they come or get educated on traffic laws, not buy detectors! Good luck all!

Originally Posted by Bowtied

ahhh, an area I have a lot of knowledge in! Radar detectors can work ONLY if there is traffic in front of you. If you're rolling solo down a road to a cop running radar, NO and I repeat NO radar will garauntee safety. Laser detectors (and you must repeat this too yourself) DO NOT WORK!! The only laser you can beat is with a jammer and they're illegal and the fine is HUGE! Plus cops know when you have one, so they'll strip your car to find it! If you pass a cop and your detector goes off and you're speeding, doesn't mean it worked! LOL! I love that part when people say that! It means that many things could be happening in the patrol vehicle. He's not paying attention because he/she has it on a set speed alarm and is ready the paper, napping, whatever and they're not sure of the car because now you've hit the brakes, or the cop doesn't care, you're speeding but not enough to give up their spot, cause they just got there and some other **** nut will be bye in the next 30 min or so going faster. There's many more too. Just consider yourself blessed or lucky and cruise on. Oh, and if you do get stopped and the cop says he/she got you on radar, then you ask if the A/C was on in the car and if they say yes, then politely ask the cop to put that in the remarks box. A/C in the patrol cruiser makes radars inaccurate!
Now some people will say that some or all of this in not true. Too you I say whatever. I've spent many a class hours teaching and receiving info on traffic enforcement. If you are saying it's not true, but know it really is, then I say to you, what department do YOU work for? If you speed you will simply have to take your lumps when they come or get educated on traffic laws, not buy detectors! Good luck all!

Originally Posted by iLLmaTic3s

escort 8500 x-50 is a beast. red and blue are same thing. blue is just more expensive to make because of the blue led.

Originally Posted by automobiliben

Could you please elaborate a little more on how a cop using his A/C would make his radar inaccurate? That doesn't quite add up to me.

Originally Posted by stealththx

I did an intership with a police department for 1 month. No one told me anything about the A/C but they did show me turning the heat on full blast and sticking the gun in front of it seriously does register a random speed. I thought that was pretty funny. It was an older K-Band Kustom Signals gun. I can't see heat or A/C affecting any fixed mounted radar though since it is well out of the way of the vents.