Started swapping in the 07 head unit in my 2005 today .
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Man dude , sorry to say the Tahoe HU will not work . Have u tried to install it yet in your car ? With its flater face , it shouldnt even fit the Cobalt bezel . The HHR HU I have will go in the dash ok , but it wont fit the bezel . Like I said in my intial post , I made the same mistake by trying a HHR HU first . Thank god I only paid 50 bux for it .
All the GMT-900 SUV's , GMT-900 trucks , Saturn Vue and Ion , HHR , Solstice and Sky , Impala and Monte Carlo will not work in the Cobalt . All of the black tie radios are unique to the models they come from because they get specific info from the body control module to operate . And in the Cobalts case , the outer face of the radio is unique to the Cobalt only . Its curved much more than any of the other HU's .
I listed the part # for the 2 male connectors with wire leads that plugs into all black tie HU's in the post right above yours .
All the GMT-900 SUV's , GMT-900 trucks , Saturn Vue and Ion , HHR , Solstice and Sky , Impala and Monte Carlo will not work in the Cobalt . All of the black tie radios are unique to the models they come from because they get specific info from the body control module to operate . And in the Cobalts case , the outer face of the radio is unique to the Cobalt only . Its curved much more than any of the other HU's .
I listed the part # for the 2 male connectors with wire leads that plugs into all black tie HU's in the post right above yours .
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SilverSS/SC look i'm not doubting you man sounds true about the fitments of the black tie radios but if fits on mine and everything when i tried installing it at first i tried with the screws and everything and it fits i'mm take pictures and post them up the only reason i didn't connect mines is because the connectors which i wrote in the post earlier i'm in the mix of buying it but my friend tried with the power connector at his shopped and it turned on and everything.
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If im not mistaken don't you have to have the radio programmed to your VIN? I think i heard somewhere that the stock radios are programmed to the specific car and you need to take it to the dealership to have it reprogrammed if you buy a different stock radio.
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I think I know whats not letting the radio connect to Tech 2 , there is other things that go thru the GMLAN data wire that are functioning ...it does communitcate with the BCM , so its not the data wire . I think I caused a problem , but I dunno . When I was making a pig tail harness I accidently touched the positive wire to the negative post on the radio , it sparked and blew the radio fuse . I replaced the fuse , the radio tuned back on like normal , screen said locked , onstar still worked , the 6-disc still loaded CD's . I figured I did no damage to the Radio , but maybe I did . I even took the radio apart to look at the circuit board to see if their were any visible signs of something burning . I think I fried the antenna module ( mounted in the radio) with my *** up . The scan tool says 0 voltage for the antenna module . No voltage there , it wont let the radio fully turn on = no communicato = no unlock .
Catch 22 guys . I dunno if theres no antenna module voltage because of my ******* mistake ~OR , is there no antenna voltage because the 05-06 module is not compatible with the 07 module . I'm gonna go to the dealer and see where they have the factory HU's inspected for repair work , if it cheap Im gonna send mine in to see if the antenna module is OK . Im not buying another HU .
If the Antenna module in my Radio ends up being good ....the 07 HU wont work .
I like a challenge ... but this sux . Its so hard to find anyone that has slightest clue what Im talking about
Now that I think about it for a sec , the antenna module is internal to the radios , so it wouldnt matter if they were compatible or not . More and more thinking I fried the module in mine .
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....yet another small update to what I posted last night . I finally got to talk to the electronics wiz at the dealer . I DIDNT hurt anything in the radio like I though . We were doing the Vin relearn wrong for the 07 HU , we were trying to reprogram like a 05-06 . The process is different than the 05-06 . For 07 u have to do a theft relearn which will encrypt my vin in the new HU , then take that info upload it on dealerworld , then dealerworld will download the needed info back into the scan tool to upload back into the Radio .
If that process doesnt work , the 07 HU wont work period . He seems to think it will go thru fine . The only glitch being , if my 2005 vin # would not be recognized as valid ...good possiblity there GM let the program only except 2007 vin #'s .
Who knows ...Will have a definate go/no answer tomorrow evening .
If that process doesnt work , the 07 HU wont work period . He seems to think it will go thru fine . The only glitch being , if my 2005 vin # would not be recognized as valid ...good possiblity there GM let the program only except 2007 vin #'s .
Who knows ...Will have a definate go/no answer tomorrow evening .
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damn man are you just good with electronics or what? anyway sry i havent sent any info yet but i got a little discouraged by my trip to my dealership... i got most of the info uploaded on my other computer thou so i might just send it anyway... the shop forman at the dealership said its possible but theres no room for error and honestly he would only have a electrical engineer look at it.
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I want to help father your first child.
I have been trying to map out a way to get this done in diagrams and **** since I bought my car back in June. My problem was I don't have all the wiring experience I felt I needed, so I didn't want to try anything...
Now that I know it is possible. I'm going to work on this as soon as I possibly can!!
I have been trying to map out a way to get this done in diagrams and **** since I bought my car back in June. My problem was I don't have all the wiring experience I felt I needed, so I didn't want to try anything...
Now that I know it is possible. I'm going to work on this as soon as I possibly can!!
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Here the connect the dots ....enjoy
2005 pin # in bold / cross to 2007 conector&pin# / function / wire color
b1 > C1 (pin# 1 ) +voltage from BCM /white/red
B9 > C1 ( pin 9) GMLAN wire /dark green
A10 > C2(pin 14) 10 volt reference /white/black
A9 > C1 (pin 11) Steering wheel controls signal /dark blue
L > C2 (pin 16 ) cellular telephone voice low reference / orange/black
M > C2 ( pin 8 ) cell tele voice signal / pink/black
H > C2 ( pin 2) right audio common + / dark green/white
J > C2 ( pin 1 ) Left audio common + / Brown/white
K > C2 ( pin 9 ) audio common / tan/white
B3 > C2 ( pin 15) Remote signal / pink
B6> C2 ( pin 3) Radio on signal / Light green
A1> C1( pin 6) left front - / dark green
A2>C1 ( pin 7 ) left front+ / Tan
A8>C1(pin4) right front - / light green
A7> C1 ( pin 5) right front + / light green/white
A6> C2 ( pin 7) left rear - / brown
A5>C2 ( pin 6 ) left rear + / brown/white
A3>C2 ( pin 5 ) right rear - / tan
A4> C2 ( pin 4 ) right rear + / Dark blue
A12> C1 ( pin 8 ) Ground / black/white
Antenna adapter part #'s . You need 2 of them to get the Old GM style to the new .
Metra part # 40-GM10 .....takes Cobalt antenna to a motorola F style $14.95
Metra part # 40-CR20 ......take the motorla F to new style coaxial ( chrysler style ) $19.95
2007 GM radio male connectors with leads ( reverse harnesses that plug into the radio )
Metra part # 71-2104 ( this comes with both connectors ) $19.95
The dealer is the only place that can unlock the radio . PM me if your dealer cant figure out how . It took 4 attempts over a few days to figure out how to get around the normal procedure of reprogramming a radio . All the normal ways , the scan tool will not communicate with the Radio at all .
2005 pin # in bold / cross to 2007 conector&pin# / function / wire color
b1 > C1 (pin# 1 ) +voltage from BCM /white/red
B9 > C1 ( pin 9) GMLAN wire /dark green
A10 > C2(pin 14) 10 volt reference /white/black
A9 > C1 (pin 11) Steering wheel controls signal /dark blue
L > C2 (pin 16 ) cellular telephone voice low reference / orange/black
M > C2 ( pin 8 ) cell tele voice signal / pink/black
H > C2 ( pin 2) right audio common + / dark green/white
J > C2 ( pin 1 ) Left audio common + / Brown/white
K > C2 ( pin 9 ) audio common / tan/white
B3 > C2 ( pin 15) Remote signal / pink
B6> C2 ( pin 3) Radio on signal / Light green
A1> C1( pin 6) left front - / dark green
A2>C1 ( pin 7 ) left front+ / Tan
A8>C1(pin4) right front - / light green
A7> C1 ( pin 5) right front + / light green/white
A6> C2 ( pin 7) left rear - / brown
A5>C2 ( pin 6 ) left rear + / brown/white
A3>C2 ( pin 5 ) right rear - / tan
A4> C2 ( pin 4 ) right rear + / Dark blue
A12> C1 ( pin 8 ) Ground / black/white
Antenna adapter part #'s . You need 2 of them to get the Old GM style to the new .
Metra part # 40-GM10 .....takes Cobalt antenna to a motorola F style $14.95
Metra part # 40-CR20 ......take the motorla F to new style coaxial ( chrysler style ) $19.95
2007 GM radio male connectors with leads ( reverse harnesses that plug into the radio )
Metra part # 71-2104 ( this comes with both connectors ) $19.95
The dealer is the only place that can unlock the radio . PM me if your dealer cant figure out how . It took 4 attempts over a few days to figure out how to get around the normal procedure of reprogramming a radio . All the normal ways , the scan tool will not communicate with the Radio at all .
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