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Old 06-11-2009, 09:04 PM
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For those of you wanting to put an SS sub box in a LT or LS!

I bought this box from Slowbalt_06... and i used my kicker 400.1 and my Tsunami 2 Farad CAP for the install. I have the JVC KDAVX2 radio for the headunit. Just wanted to post it out there to let everyone know it is possible. The holes are already in the metal for ya , just got to add some bolts to those holes and the carpet has already been cut accordingly.

ENJOY!


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This is good to know. And good choice on the sub box, i love mine as i still get bass but it is out of the way.
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get rid of the cap
Old 06-11-2009, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jschatte
This is good to know. And good choice on the sub box, i love mine as i still get bass but it is out of the way.
what do you mean ? you have a sub box?
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Wow dude great job with that.. looks really clean.
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Originally Posted by brickloaf
get rid of the cap
why is serves a purpose!
Old 06-11-2009, 09:15 PM
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400 watts wont even make your lights dim
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Originally Posted by ctcsoccer7
what do you mean ? you have a sub box?
yeah my car came with one. I just meant it is good info to know for other people.
Old 06-12-2009, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by brickloaf
400 watts wont even make your lights dim
o yeah i know that, but i have a tester at work that a old installer left that shows the electrical current and how it moves while CAPPED OR NON CAPPED . And the cap just cleans up the bass response and current flow. Kind of like how a MONSTER HOME AUDIO SURGE PROTECTOR cleans up over the air channels. It just smoothes everything out.

Originally Posted by jschatte
yeah my car came with one. I just meant it is good info to know for other people.
gotcha,yeah plus you can change out that sub with aftermarket ones as well.( LOW PROFILE ONES )

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Wow dude great job with that.. looks really clean.
appreciate it!

bump...thats it...no one else?

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nice to know. nice clean job. enjoy the bass.
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x2 that looks good. and looks like fosgate wire too... damn nice ****
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do u think fosgate wire is better than knu? knu has like 5500 strands in its 0g not sure about rockford tho
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id have to see what the flex wire looks like
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
x2 that looks good. and looks like fosgate wire too... damn nice ****
i was waiting for you to chime in.....finally!

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id have to see what the flex wire looks like
what ive been able to figure out over the years is some companies put 8,4,0, gauge wire on the box but it is mostly insulation , after stripping back the fosgate , tsunami, walmart , Lightning audio, and many others , so far Fosgate actually put 4 guage wire in and then covers it in insulation, so in turn it is alittle bit bigger than 4 gauge. People always get som pissed when you tell them how much a AMP kit is .....i dont think its that bad, full kit for 8 gauge is 65 and 4 gauge is 105 ....

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nice. i wanna get one but idk what to run to it for speaker wires?
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Originally Posted by ctcsoccer7
i was waiting for you to chime in.....finally!



what ive been able to figure out over the years is some companies put 8,4,0, gauge wire on the box but it is mostly insulation , after stripping back the fosgate , tsunami, walmart , Lightning audio, and many others , so far Fosgate actually put 4 guage wire in and then covers it in insulation, so in turn it is alittle bit bigger than 4 gauge. People always get som pissed when you tell them how much a AMP kit is .....i dont think its that bad, full kit for 8 gauge is 65 and 4 gauge is 105 ....
if you piece togethor your amp kit its alot cheaper than buying a pre made one...i got my full 0g setup w/ 10g speaker wire, 2 knukonceptz triple 0g battery terminals, 4 set screw ring terminals, and knukonceptz high flow inline fuse (uses 3 mini ANL fuses instead of one big one) all for around $150ish and all these parts are top of the line
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Originally Posted by ctcsoccer7
i was waiting for you to chime in.....finally!



what ive been able to figure out over the years is some companies put 8,4,0, gauge wire on the box but it is mostly insulation , after stripping back the fosgate , tsunami, walmart , Lightning audio, and many others , so far Fosgate actually put 4 guage wire in and then covers it in insulation, so in turn it is alittle bit bigger than 4 gauge. People always get som pissed when you tell them how much a AMP kit is .....i dont think its that bad, full kit for 8 gauge is 65 and 4 gauge is 105 ....
yup i actually have 1ft sections of every type and kind of 4g wire i can get my hands on.... even knowing the diffrences in wire, cca ect ect looking at ~25 different pieces of wire and being able to do a direct comparison in weight and cross section even opened my eyes. companies are very tricky and alot of times its not quite as black and white as one assumes
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
yup i actually have 1ft sections of every type and kind of 4g wire i can get my hands on.... even knowing the diffrences in wire, cca ect ect looking at ~25 different pieces of wire and being able to do a direct comparison in weight and cross section even opened my eyes. companies are very tricky and alot of times its not quite as black and white as one assumes
yeah companies are out to make alot of money by spending NONE! asswipes!
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so where did u tap into speaker lines for the box? and remote line? i got a stock deck so can i even do this?
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LOL, you heard this already, LOSE the cap.

my stock battery/alternator at this point is powering a 4ch amp, a class-d mono amp, and a full atx computer man. if i don't have problems without one on my setup, you definitely won't with yours.

if your concerned, get a optima yellow top but still ditch that cap. it's just a drag on your setup to be honest.

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Originally Posted by warrenb213
LOL, you heard this already, LOSE the cap.

my stock battery/alternator at this point is powering a 4ch amp, a class-d mono amp, and a full atx computer man. if i don't have problems without one on my setup, you definitely won't with yours.

if your concerned, get a optima yellow top but still ditch that cap. it's just a drag on your setup to be honest. storing a split second of juice which it'll never tap.
if you read the post i posted about why i have the CAP you would understand!

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so where did u tap into speaker lines for the box? and remote line? i got a stock deck so can i even do this?
dude look up a post in audio @ video , listing under CAN I ADD A SECOND SUB? all you questions will be answer there , me and EMP answer a **** load of questions about this for factory HU.

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ummm ctcsoccer, the only reasoning i found was cause you found some electrical tester that a previous tech left behind which shows capped and not capped flows and how they compare.

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aka.....i don't see any valid reasoning behind your decision. yes when a sub hits, you'd typically have a drop in voltage seen. while a cap helps to smooth these variations out, it does not solve the problem over extended bass notes, which i presume is what your trying to fix. and it puts additional strain on your system when it's not being utilized.....
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Originally Posted by brickloaf
400 watts wont even make your lights dim
maybe not but what if he accidently leaves his lights on?? without it he'd have a dead battery. caps can serve more than one purpose
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Originally Posted by thesteed46
maybe not but what if he accidently leaves his lights on?? without it he'd have a dead battery. caps can serve more than one purpose
.... even with a cap his battery would die.... in fact it would die faster with the cap, as it'd be constantly sucking juice that'd never be used.

sooooooooo.....

anyone wanna make some sense here? to me a cap is severely over rated.

if you wanna solve the potential power issues, do it the right way or no way at all.
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the lights can and will take voltage from the cap.

do you even know what a caps purpose is??


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