Hey guys I was wondering if I pulled a 2008 engine out of the ss for it being turbo and I swap it into my 2006 , would it be a plug and play fit basically? I know the wiring and pcm have to be pulled with the engine and swapped with it but I was wondering if it would work. I don't see why not. Let me know! Thanks!

 

Won't work.

 

Won't work but you can use the turbo setup but there are parts off of the lnf engine(cooling) that you need. There should be a thread on here about it

 

Why won't it work? If you swapped all the electronics with the engine all that should be left is to bolt it in. Will in not bolt in?

 

Requires a complete rewire of the car. It's been covered countless times.

 

it is possible though. i looked at a 06 with a lnf engine in it just because i didn't believe the ad

 

So it can work it just requires a complete rewire.

 

I was answering his question. You can't just drop it in.

You'd need a complete donor car. He obviously doesn't want to go that route. Like I said it's been covered before and you're not helping by cluttering up the thread.

 

Just trying to get the OP a complete answer. I've had people tell me you can't use a LNF control arm on a base model on here as well. Sometimes people want to know what it would take to make it work and would like to make the judgement themselves whether it is worth it or not.

Do you happen to know what would have to be rewired exactly or a link to any of the numerous times it has been covered? I'm on mobile and not having luck finding anything.

Edit: I looked and found some stuff. It appears the biggest booger is that the harness that goes to the body of the car does not match up. Everyone is saying you have to run a different body harness even to the taillights but I bet you could find a electrical schematic and splice into the existing one and get most things to work without a full swap. People saying things like the radio won't work. Well swap that junk out for an aftermarket if it isn't already. My CD player quit in mine after a couple of years is why I say that.

In the end it is possible but you would have to do your research which may be kind of hard when most the information you find here is just random people telling you not to do it.

Edit 2: I did further digging and found the same thing. Everyone just say's it's too much of a hassle. It seems like the main hassle is the body control module that goes to the interior electronics. If you were going completely gutted it may be doable but if you are wanting to keep the car like a functional daily driver it looks like you will have to swap a lot of interior components.

 

This topic came up a lot in the past, not worth digging old threads out. It's extremely time and money intensive to swap a LNF into an LSJ, most likely the reason for asking was because the lnf motor and turbo is an already to go for cheap, vs building an engine and putting a turbo kit on it.

Also no idea who told you the FE5 control arms don't fit the FE1, but the suspension sticky calls out they work perfectly, hell even halfcent made a thread about his suspension rebuild using the FE5 arms in the FE1 subframe (kick ass thread for suspension info)

 

So all of that just to agree with what I said in the first place....

 

I never disagreed. Wanted to know why it wouldn't work and now I know it's because the BCM isn't compatible. I don't know why you're against a full answer.

 

hes against a full answer because this has been covered so many times before and people dont know what the search button does for this forum. go to google and type in what you have in mind and just add "cobalt ss" to it and it brings up everything. so he has a reason to be short because we've been here so long and all this stuff we have covered. hes not trying to be a dick and neither am i, we all help out as much as we can but when its stuff like this, thats when guys have a short fuse.

 

I understand that. The search function on this site sucks. Using Google I was able to find out what I did but I had to dig through a ton of posts just saying that it sucks and not giving an actual reason. Some things can potentially have creative solutions, some things do not. That is why I always like to have at least a small explanation as to why. I wasn't trying to **** anyone off I was trying to learn myself.

 

yeah it does on the site and thats why others will say just use google lol. i understand youd like an explination but you have to see where we are coming from because we put up with this kind of stuff all the time lol. just be glad they took it "easy" on you lmfao. others not so much haha

 

Do it and let us know how it goes.

People have done RWD. No reason you can't do this. Only limited by your own capabilities.

 

I'm not worried nor butt-hurt. I understand after the 10th time you've seen the same thing asked... BTW I'm not even the guy asking I just wanted to know why it wouldn't work out of curiosity. I have a base model with a 2006 2.2 L61 but my ECM support sucks and some day I am going to have to make the choice of standalone or swap as only Trifecta can tune me. So any info I have on this kind of **** will be useful when it comes down to that.

Sorry if I disturbed any of the OG's with my quest for knowledge lol.

 

You are about to see SS/TC models drop into the 5-6k range which is cheaper than a full swap.

So sell your car and move up instead of swap.

 

Never bro. Base model 4 life.

 

Really lol??

 

I was like that once. Had a no option LS.

Engine, transmission, suspension and body work to be an SS costs twice what it costs to buy an SS.

So if you really like your cobalt just get the same color SS and move forward in life.

 

The wording was a joke but the statement was serious. There is no reason for me to trade in for an SS at this point. The only thing the SS has on my car performance wise is brakes and maybe an LSD if it has it. My car is lighter because it doesn't have all of the electronics. And it is a sleeper which I really enjoy surprising V8 guys.

I like my vehicles simple. Simple vehicles are easier to fix with less to go wrong. Both of my vehicles are down to the basic models. I plan on running both of them into the ground too because they are worth more to me than I would ever get selling.

I'm not in love with the Cobalt platform but I do think it is a pretty damn good one. I bought my LS when I was in Highschool back in 07. The car was a year old and i got it for $10,500. I drove it all through college and it was great car for me. Once I started to make some money I decided to make it fast as there is a bunch of aftermarket support. I was just going to supercharge the stock engine at first but then I got addicted.

 

I don't care about the body. I like the sleeper aspect of it. I'm not trying to pretend I'm an SS. Now performance/suspension wise you are correct. However I have all new suspension components compared to buying an SS with worn out upgraded suspension that would at least need new bushings and struts.

The route I went is not the easiest or the most economic but my car has been with me for a long time and has been good to me. I always wanted to make it a performance beast.

Edit: This is also the reason I like answers as to why I shouldn't do something. Because I do a lot of **** that y'all would consider not worth it.

 

You should really do some more reading man lol. if you want to make power, you cant make it with an L61 platform, people have tried it and they dont get very far. You are just dumping so much money into the car to make the same amount of power that an ss would stock lol. in the SS, you get a much better motor, transmission, suspension, and brakes. All the money that you have spent on your build you could have traded your car and picked up a turbo cobalt for 7-9K and put a tune on it and be so much faster and more reliable then your base model. yes bushings and stuff may go but damn dude you sank all that money into your base model and your probably not even making 300whp?

Now before you get all salty and stuff on me lol. im just telling you that you have so many other options man. i get people like to work on cars and everything and some people like the base model stuff, but when you want to have the power of an LSJ or an LNF you just end up spending so much more money. Now to each is own and you do have a nice build. I guess im just stuck in my SS ways where i sold my car 7500 and it was making 357whp and 375wtq and i took excellent care of that car. The owner now still stays in touch with me and tells me how much he loves the car. so for $7500 he got a beatiful SS that was very well maintained and kept prestine and oh btw had 113k on the odo and never gave me a problem.

 

You are not the first, second third or twelfth person to try this.

Lets say you just built your L61 engine and turboed. You are looking at 5k to do that just to make 250whp. Your car will be 100-200 lbs lighter than an SS/TC. You will need a turbo setup, new rods, pistons, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, new mounts.

Where as with an SS/TC you will make 300whp with a $300 tune with the potential for 350whp. Bigger wheels, brakes, control arms, steering knuckles, axles, mounts, better transmission. Better everything.

There are 3 built L61s in my region and they sound fantastic. But my god do I rape them and I'm on a conservative tune.