JonyyB

Doug (GallucciDoug) from my local Chevy Dealer has joined the board and he told me he would ba happy to answer any questions about ordering a Cobalt and so on. So post your questions in this thread and he will get to them as soon as he can.

RedCavyRS99

SWEET!!

thank you Doug.

Blk01GTP

Ask him why Chevy cheaped out and didn't give us the 6Spd from the Saab 9-3.

It would be so easy to swap a 6spd in.

SS_SC_Cobalt

Remember this is a dealer, not an engineer! Nice job Jonelz!
Now, one up and get an engineer like we have on the SRT Forums
(ask and ye shall receive, lol)


One question for the dealer, find out whent he competition pkg is orderable!

Nivo88T

there is a silver sedan on rt.9 in framingham,MA

cs_88

i asked about the cobalt @ Tracy chevorlet, and they said:
1) Ran out of brocures
2) Cobalts wont be comming in til March becuase of some glitch and I was wondering, whats the holdup?
3) The dealer said that this is one hot car, espically the ss... i hope that doesn't mean that there will be 20+ ss cobalts in my town. There's already enough SRT's in town (10+ Srt-4, 2 Vipers)

cs_88

It WOULD be easier to swap the rest of the powerplant, including the turbo engine....

zinner

I consider easy checking the 6spd manual box in the order form
I would have a hard time putting a non supported transmission in a brand new car. The would pretty much voided the whole power train promise right there.

I have a 6 spd close ratio transmission on my VFR750 after having a 5 spd on my first bike ( Hawk GT) and it's nice having the extra gear when you start moving. I figure if the car can go over 120 mph it needs to have a 6th gear or your going to be spending time outside the motors power band. Unless of course the S/C Eco 2.0 has so much power that it's not an issue. And what saab has a 6 speed, I just checked on their site (93 and 95 and 92x) and i don't see a 6 speed option for any of them.

Blk01GTP

The Vector Had it.

6-speed manual w/OD
Specifications
Transmission gear ratio (1st) 3.77
Transmission gear ratio (2nd) 2.04
Transmission gear ratio (3rd) 1.32
Transmission gear ratio (4th) .95
Transmission gear ratio (5th) .75
Transmission gear ratio (6th) .62
Transmission gear ratio (reverse) 3.54

Eddie

welcome cs_88, looks like your close to me. so you live in tracy? thats cool, i live in patterson.

Vita

it would be a waste as you already eat up the gears fast enough as is. this is not a high rev VTEC engine where you NEED the 6 gears to keep the engine in the powerband.

the only reason a 6 speed would be benificial would be to help fuel consumption on the freeway, otherwise it's a wast of time/effort as the saab 6spd gearing is closer together only making more shifts nescessary and not getting you anywhere faster

zinner

On a car thats capable of doing 143 mph before it's governed I think that a 6 speed would benificial. If the car was limited to 105 mph I would agree that a 6 speed is unneeded. Because you have to give away some acceleration to achieve 143 mph with a 5 spd, you could get some of that back with a 6 spd. Maybe they did the math and the torque and HP curves of the engine don't warrent the need for a 6 spd but I don't think having shifting more is a downside of a 6 spd. If you don't want to shift get an automatic. I have never driven a 6 spd car, but going from a 5 to 6 speed motorcycle it was definetly a welcome change. Many times I was on my 5 spd bike and wish I had a 6th gear to bring the revs down for high speed cruising

That said I really don't think having a 5 spd is too much of a downer for the Cobalt SS S/C at this point, but since none of us has driven it (SS S/C) yet I reserve judgement.

titaniumss

My 04 SVT Focus had a 6 speed and it was nice and i liked where the reverse was located. And the 143 mph limit isn't a governor, its just how fast the Pirelli Z rated tires can handle on the Cobalt SS SC, i'd like the 6 speed in the SS SC, its fun to play around with, and i know my first gear in my SVTF was really tall, i could get up to 40 in first gear, sometimes even 43-45 mph.

zinner

I thought the Cobalt SS S/C was governed to 143 mpg because thats the most the tire could handle. So the SS won't be governed at all ? At any rate it's not too relavant in the discussion of the thread. Just a side topic.

Blk01GTP

6Spd Will always be better then a 5spd. No matter if it's a high rpm powerband or not.

Max speed in Gears with a 6500 Redline and a 3.94 Final Drive Ratio

5Spd :

1st : 31
2nd : 62
3rd : 93
4th : 128
5th 182

6Spd :

1st : 33
2nd : 62
3rd : 95
4th : 132
5th : 168
6th : 203

See my point? 5th is actually Useable in the 6spd where it's pure OD in the 5spd.

GallucciDoug

The cobalts are released, the coupes will not land until after the first of the year. The gliche your dealer was talking about was a headlight gliche, that has now been resolved and the sedans are up for sale!!

GallucciDoug

I do see your point, i like the idea of the six speed because it's more driver gear control, but how many people you know need to go over 170mph in any type of circumstance, you will never go that fast in the 1/4 mile, and if you go that fast on any open road you might as well put a pull me over sign on top of your car

Blk01GTP

Having 6 Gears just makes for more Flexability when it comes to the Final Drive Ratio. I like 6spds.. I think they should put the 6Spd In it and hell.. If i decide to scrap my GTP after i install a new tranny and buy an SS. I will be doing the Saab 6Spd Swap.

You can pickup a Saab 6Spd for 2K