View Poll Results: For a 20% savings would you buy a lower quality china part over a USA part
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll
China vs USA made products
#54
Senior Member
hahaha I love travelling to the states and watching your brain blending news, you guys are so afraid of commies and becoming reds apparently ... but seriously your news is SO obnoxious!
#56
Senior Member
And yeah the "news" in our country is a joke. Anything to generate a profit... yay capitalism!
#57
Lol I don't even watch the news any more for that reason...
#58
Senior Member
oh your news is horrible, we listened to some woman yelling for almost half an hour about jobs and the safety of the merican people and how you and your babies and your babies babies are all at risk!!! blah blah blah just horrible, I mean Canadian news isn't great either but yours REALLY takes the cake
#59
Premium Member
iTrader: (13)
oh your news is horrible, we listened to some woman yelling for almost half an hour about jobs and the safety of the merican people and how you and your babies and your babies babies are all at risk!!! blah blah blah just horrible, I mean Canadian news isn't great either but yours REALLY takes the cake
#60
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
oh your news is horrible, we listened to some woman yelling for almost half an hour about jobs and the safety of the merican people and how you and your babies and your babies babies are all at risk!!! blah blah blah just horrible, I mean Canadian news isn't great either but yours REALLY takes the cake
#61
That's because at some point in probably I wanna say the late 80s early 90s, news became entertainment rather than actual news reporting. I used to be really big on educational channels like discovery and history and science channel when I was a kid (more so discovery channel cus thats all we had with basic cable growing up) but now its just piles of drivel. I hear my mom downstairs on the weekends yelling about how they have evidence that big foot is real because programs on discovery and history keep telling her that. All this reality TV based bullshit on discovery as well, it rots your brain.
Last years shark week was a major let down. The megalodon episode did me in. I was disgusted.
#62
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
i think the anti capitalism movement is more despicable. as you already stated, we are all greedy, but giving the government more control wont fix that. things wont just be sunshine and butterflies because the government is "theoretically" trying to do the right thing.
no politician will ever rid us of a monetary system. they have it made for the rest of their life. why would they ruin that??
#63
Senior Member
A couple things...
1.) I'm not totally opposed to using any foreign sourced part, if its a quality product and NOT counterfeit which I'll put in my #2. I do like all products I buy to clearly state their place of origin.
2.) I am vehemently opposed to purchasing either passively or blatant counterfeit intellectual property. Things that come to mind (from my DSM days) were carbon copies of MHI turbos, GReddy, TiAL, HKS, Apexi and the like. These copies have had major impact on those businesses on top of the recession.
3.) To point #2, I would always be very wary of giving away IP to a Chinese manufacturer. Speaking from a couple personal experiences, once that IP is there its game over pretty much if the product even has a glimmer of commercial viability. Perhaps for super low-run parts like like a Delta chassis shifter this isn't a concern.
1.) I'm not totally opposed to using any foreign sourced part, if its a quality product and NOT counterfeit which I'll put in my #2. I do like all products I buy to clearly state their place of origin.
2.) I am vehemently opposed to purchasing either passively or blatant counterfeit intellectual property. Things that come to mind (from my DSM days) were carbon copies of MHI turbos, GReddy, TiAL, HKS, Apexi and the like. These copies have had major impact on those businesses on top of the recession.
3.) To point #2, I would always be very wary of giving away IP to a Chinese manufacturer. Speaking from a couple personal experiences, once that IP is there its game over pretty much if the product even has a glimmer of commercial viability. Perhaps for super low-run parts like like a Delta chassis shifter this isn't a concern.
#64
First time I have had bigfoot derail a thread. Nicely done. He's real btw
Anyways it looks like I will be making a post in our section about where each product we make is made. I doubt other vendors would follow my lead but if you guys really care you will pressure them into it. From the things I've seen lately there has been a lot of bait and switch going on.
Anyways it looks like I will be making a post in our section about where each product we make is made. I doubt other vendors would follow my lead but if you guys really care you will pressure them into it. From the things I've seen lately there has been a lot of bait and switch going on.
#65
but in reality i would say that bullshit train set off from the station during the OJ trial. i never saw such a media circus until that day and for the following years.
#66
I have a feeling zzp is double dipping with those ching ching chong headers and downpipes being sold on e-bay.
They are exact copies of their products.
Of course, we may never know for sure, but it would be a shame, because zzp used to always claim their stuff to be made in America.
They are exact copies of their products.
Of course, we may never know for sure, but it would be a shame, because zzp used to always claim their stuff to be made in America.
#68
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
oh ok you're one of those. Well I would normally write a complex answer explaining why that is incorrect but since "you're a communist" is the common answer when presenting alternatives to capitalism from die hard "muricans" i'm not even going to bother to waste my breath this time around. Anyone whos had the pleasure to experience socialism that works in other countries will know exactly what I'm talking about.
I guess I just like spending the money I work hard for how I want instead of giving it to the government and lazy people.
#71
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
I'm just going to throw my two cents in, being I am one of those 20 year olds people like to look down on.
1) I have been working since I was 15, to buy what I want with money I worked for. If I have the choice, I rather keep my money in the American community. That is where I live, right? I do understand the whole global economy thing, but when it all comes down to it, does anyone really have each others back? Which leads me to my next point
2) People these days show nothing but greed. Like stated above, everything is materialistic these days instead of realistic. I see more people living in a run down house/trailer that is barley standing, because they rather have the newest Benz, and that 75 in plasmas screen. I make OK money for a 20 year old, but I understand the value of a dollar, and work for what I have, and am content with what I have. There is no reason for me to go out and try to buy everything top of the line just to impress someone else. I don't know what is happening to this country, It kinda sickens me how materialistic people can be.
3)As for the government and news, I don't even bother anymore. It is a complete waste of time. I was more into politics when I was 15/16 then I am now at 20 and can vote. The news isn't news. Not sure about people in other areas, but in my area, the news pertains to what happened to the football team, or a stupid festival going on. That's news? I used to care, but it is just a disgrace these days.
1) I have been working since I was 15, to buy what I want with money I worked for. If I have the choice, I rather keep my money in the American community. That is where I live, right? I do understand the whole global economy thing, but when it all comes down to it, does anyone really have each others back? Which leads me to my next point
2) People these days show nothing but greed. Like stated above, everything is materialistic these days instead of realistic. I see more people living in a run down house/trailer that is barley standing, because they rather have the newest Benz, and that 75 in plasmas screen. I make OK money for a 20 year old, but I understand the value of a dollar, and work for what I have, and am content with what I have. There is no reason for me to go out and try to buy everything top of the line just to impress someone else. I don't know what is happening to this country, It kinda sickens me how materialistic people can be.
3)As for the government and news, I don't even bother anymore. It is a complete waste of time. I was more into politics when I was 15/16 then I am now at 20 and can vote. The news isn't news. Not sure about people in other areas, but in my area, the news pertains to what happened to the football team, or a stupid festival going on. That's news? I used to care, but it is just a disgrace these days.
#74
Its the Republicans fault we are in such a mess...