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Old 03-17-2014, 11:10 PM
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Im a 06 and have had a ton of electrical issues , power steering cuts off when driving , speedo freaks out , and so on
Old 03-17-2014, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
Why would the dealer be full of ****, the style of ignition switch they are going to replace ours with has been used since 2008.
The parts haven't yet been made available as of 12:30 this afternoon. You got gypped.
Old 03-18-2014, 02:26 AM
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only one key on my key chain. never had issues with my 09 SS, though the first owner took it in for ignition issue... Don't put a bunch of keys on the key ring and you should be fine.

When I was younger I used to turn the car off when coasting down a long steep hill from Flagstaff to Phoenix to learn how to drive the car without power steering. kinda dangerous in hind sight but I learned what to do if I experienced an issue.
Old 03-18-2014, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
The parts haven't yet been made available as of 12:30 this afternoon. You got gypped.
Go back, re-read the thread again. lol
Old 03-18-2014, 02:42 AM
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I only have 3 keys on my chain and it went on me once.
Old 03-18-2014, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bdubs04
only one key on my key chain. never had issues with my 09 SS, though the first owner took it in for ignition issue... Don't put a bunch of keys on the key ring and you should be fine.

When I was younger I used to turn the car off when coasting down a long steep hill from Flagstaff to Phoenix to learn how to drive the car without power steering. kinda dangerous in hind sight but I learned what to do if I experienced an issue.
Driving a car w/o power steering is not dangerous.

The problem is, no one knows how to handle a car without it this day in age.

I lost power steering in my 98' Cavy a few times.... I was able to still control the car w/o issue.
Old 03-18-2014, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Driving a car w/o power steering is not dangerous.

The problem is, no one knows how to handle a car without it this day in age.

I lost power steering in my 98' Cavy a few times.... I was able to still control the car w/o issue.
True, I guess I don't understand how people didn't simply apply the brakes and pull off to the side of the road or just pop it in neutral and restart it. Unless they freaked out and pulled a Carrie Underwood and let Jesus take the wheel
Old 03-18-2014, 07:58 AM
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08 here. No issues but not to say the recall can't expand.
Old 03-18-2014, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
Go back, re-read the thread again. lol
What most likely happened was the dealer replaced your switch with a non-recalled unit.

They are revising that one (or have revised already) and making parts that will be available once they send the second letter.

-Paraphrased from GM themselves.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
What most likely happened was the dealer replaced your switch with a non-recalled unit.

They are revising that one (or have revised already) and making parts that will be available once they send the second letter.

-Paraphrased from GM themselves.
Yup, my dealer doesnt even have the parts yet.

They wont have them until sometime in April. That's why my appointment was made April 16th.
Old 03-18-2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
True, I guess I don't understand how people didn't simply apply the brakes and pull off to the side of the road or just pop it in neutral and restart it. Unless they freaked out and pulled a Carrie Underwood and let Jesus take the wheel
Because it's a female car...

Sexist but I would love to see the data of the deaths.
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Because it's a female car...

Sexist but I would love to see the data of the deaths.
Sad to say, but I'm willing to bet a lot of male drivers this day in age wouldnt know what to do if their power steering and power brakes went out.
Old 03-18-2014, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Sad to say, but I'm willing to bet a lot of male drivers this day in age wouldnt know what to do if their power steering and power brakes went out.
Very true. My 16 year old brother can't figure out how my car continues to move after i turn off the car with the clutch in. Guess it's time to teach him.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
What most likely happened was the dealer replaced your switch with a non-recalled unit.

They are revising that one (or have revised already) and making parts that will be available once they send the second letter.

-Paraphrased from GM themselves.
Go back......RE-READ THE THREAD. My ignition switch has never been replaced.
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Someone's was.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Someone's was.
Yes, that is what I was commenting on, it says in the NBC news article that the 2008+ model years use a 8mm detent pin which prevents this issue, that is likely what his was replaced with and why he doesnt have a problem with his key. Is it the same part # as the recall replacement? Probably not, but it doesnt mean he is in danger like we are though.
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
Yes, that is what I was commenting on, it says in the NBC news article that the 2008+ model years use a 8mm detent pin which prevents this issue, that is likely what his was replaced with and why he doesnt have a problem with his key. Is it the same part # as the recall replacement? Probably not, but it doesnt mean he is in danger like we are though.
We arent in danger.... you can still steer and stop the car. Will it be harder to do so? Yes, but it can be done.

Most of our parents and grandparents grew up with cars with no power steering or brakes. They got around just fine.

The media is blowing this up, just like they blew up the power steering recall a few years back.
Old 03-18-2014, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
We arent in danger.... you can still steer and stop the car. Will it be harder to do so? Yes, but it can be done.

Most of our parents and grandparents grew up with cars with no power steering or brakes. They got around just fine.

The media is blowing this up, just like they blew up the power steering recall a few years back.
I'm not saying you cant steer and stop the car, in alot of these cases where people get killed from faulty equipment its because they panic. While my mom might have grown up driving a Plymouth duster with no power steering in her early 20s, im thoroughly convinced that if her cobalt were suddenly turn off on the highway she would panic and wind up in a car accident. It has happened to her before in the mid 90s in a 93 cavalier when the ignition control module died at 65mph and she had a panic attack while driving, luckily i was able to help her steer the car into the shoulder. So again, its not that your car is going to explode, its what people do behind the wheel. Ive had my car die while driving before, i can attest to that sudden tense moment where you are trying to figure out what just happened, but like you said I was able to control the car just fine.
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
I'm not saying you cant steer and stop the car, in alot of these cases where people get killed from faulty equipment its because they panic. While my mom might have grown up driving a Plymouth duster with no power steering in her early 20s, im thoroughly convinced that if her cobalt were suddenly turn off on the highway she would panic and wind up in a car accident. It has happened to her before in the mid 90s in a 93 cavalier when the ignition control module died at 65mph and she had a panic attack while driving, luckily i was able to help her steer the car into the shoulder. So again, its not that your car is going to explode, its what people do behind the wheel. Ive had my car die while driving before, i can attest to that sudden tense moment where you are trying to figure out what just happened, but like you said I was able to control the car just fine.
No doubt. I agree with that. Key is to stay calm (easier said than done).
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Black Box? Like a flight recorder? Ya right I dont think we have those,



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According to the Meltons, experts contacted by attorney Lance Cooper examined the “black box” from the accident and found that the key had slipped from the “on” to the “accessory” position three seconds before the accident, shutting off her power steering and power brakes. Brooke’s car had then hydroplaned on the wet highway and been struck by another car.
... and hydroplaned? I dont see how the ignition turning off caused that. Or could have kept her from hydroplaning.

Hard to tell if her tires are in good shape or not.

I'm skeptical as to rather this issue caused this accident.
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Originally Posted by Spawne32
While my mom might have grown up driving a Plymouth duster with no power steering in her early 20s,


I had a dodge Shadow years ago (Very similar to the duster and sundance) and it had power steering.....
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Originally Posted by insylem
I had a dodge Shadow years ago (Very similar to the duster and sundance) and it had power steering.....
not quite the same as a 73 plymouth lol
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Was that a sexual reference? lol
No i'm serious, wait till your rods go the **** home
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There is an onboard computer that records events and driving log. Cars have had them since the 90's. Police have used them in accident investigations.
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Originally Posted by Xmetalhead2003X
There is an onboard computer that records events and driving log. Cars have had them since the 90's. Police have used them in accident investigations.
it's called an SDM, AKA air bag module.

I'm sure an airplane black box has a high tech name that only plane people use.


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