General Cobalt General Cobalt, Pursuit, and Ion talk. Post specific discussions in the forums below

Mac Mini in SS S/C???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-06-2005, 01:10 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Vendian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-22-05
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Mac Mini in SS S/C???

Do you guys think it is possible to fit a mac mini inside of the cobalt? I was thinking you could place an aftermarket faceplate where the thin strip where the heated seats and the casette tape looking black part is. Above that, place say whatever size screen would fit in where the stock radio is. Probably about a 7" touchscreen. Then you could place the Mac mini in the glovebox. With build in bluetooth and 40 & 80GB models, you could put a ton of music. You could either use the touchscreen to access iTunes and play music or use a bluetooth wireless mouse and keyboard to search for tunes.

The only thing to get working is to hook up the mini to play through the cars speakers. It would be curious to know how to switch between the mini and the aftermarket faceplate as well. It might also be interesting to know how to power it. I wonder if you could hook it up to go into sleep mode when you turned the car off, and then out of sleep when you turned the car back on. My laptop on sleep mode uses like 2% battery in about 12 hours. It takes next to none, so you wouldn't have to worry about it draining the cars battery.

Here are features that would be cool to see:
-Mac mini in glovebox.
-7" touchscreen display in dash.
-Aftermarket faceplate/stereo.
-Switch between radio and iTunes.
-Mac always on, sleep on car shutoff, return on car on.
-Run diagnostics on engine information etc. through the mac.

Here's some links to look at:
http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/19.html
http://www.i3team.com/

There are a ton more if you look
Just food for thought. Here is a picture of the center dash courtesy of zinner's gallery:

Old 04-06-2005, 01:13 AM
  #2  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I have considered this myself actually. However I was going to opt for a mini itx PC based system (around 1ghz or so). You can get a decent setup for about 300 dollars and another 5-700 for a nice touch scree LCD.

I wouldn't want to lose the stock look, this way I might be able to keep the stereo system and put an LCD is that blank filter right below and keep the actual PC unit hidden.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:21 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Vendian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-22-05
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You could get one of those aftermarket faceplates with the fold out LCD screen and place that where the area is I was talking about before. That way you could maintain a more stock look. Just hook up the PC to the foldout screen. I added a page to an interface that could be used with touchscreens.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:48 AM
  #4  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
That Lexus looks nice. Neat place to put the computer.
Old 04-06-2005, 03:03 AM
  #5  
Premium Member
 
mken's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-23-05
Location: Florida
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't know much about the Mac Mini (not a Mac fan), but I'm willing to bet it will still generate a decent amount of heat. So just make sure to take into consideration the lack of air-flow inside the dash or glove box, wherever you decide to install it. I'd hate to hear about someone melting a $500 computer this way. But if someone does, make sure to post pics!
Old 04-06-2005, 10:19 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Vendian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-22-05
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mken
I don't know much about the Mac Mini (not a Mac fan), but I'm willing to bet it will still generate a decent amount of heat. So just make sure to take into consideration the lack of air-flow inside the dash or glove box, wherever you decide to install it. I'd hate to hear about someone melting a $500 computer this way. But if someone does, make sure to post pics!
Lol, good thought. I can just imagine opening the glove box to a toasted mac mini, smoke billowing out.
Old 04-06-2005, 12:23 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
xtremeGM's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-21-05
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 802
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was going to do that with my Grand Am but since I'm getting rid of it I decided not to. But its very possible.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:01 PM
  #8  
New Member
 
Funky Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-05-05
Location: Michigan
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i don't know much about the mac mini's as they are pretty much usless in the IT feild and that is what i do.
But i would be worried about 2 things with a "non-automovtive" computer in a car.
One: Power, keeping clean constant power to the computers powersupply, otherwise you start breaking things.

Two: would need to be decently protected against shock, and a laptop harddrive would be a must, even with a laptop harddrive and a shock obsorb system I wouldn't venture near detroit roads.

Heats not that bad with a lower end proccessor and a lower end video card, as long as there is some airflow and venting it would get hot but you wouldn't melt anything.

EDIT: oh, I was thinking of doing something similar when I was building up an early 80's T-Bird. Would be pretty cool.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:14 PM
  #9  
Member
 
Voodoosoup's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-01-04
Location: In a house
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had an iBook and 7" VGA Lilliput touchscreen in my Alero.
I molded the screen into the radio opening in the dash.
I ran Virtual PC and Routis software for Navigation then used iTunes for music playback.
I had wireless networking so I could pull into the driveway and transfer any need songs or files.
I have to say, I really miss that system. I was using a USB iMic for sound output and had that going directly to a active crossover which fed my amps. I used a standard power inverter which I wired into the electrical system with a relay to supply power to my ext. hard drive and USB hub. I simply had to close the notebook to put the system to sleep.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:17 PM
  #10  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Vendian
Lol, good thought. I can just imagine opening the glove box to a toasted mac mini, smoke billowing out.
I think a lot of heat would be cut out by removing the AC power supply. Is the power supply for the mini mac in the box or is it a seperate power brick like a laptop.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:26 PM
  #11  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
You can fix the moving storage issue with compact flash. You can pick it up pretty cheap now. I don't think that having a fully functional OS for a car computer is the way to go. I think you need like Windows Mobile or a linux mobile/embedded distro.
Old 04-06-2005, 02:00 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Vendian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-22-05
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zinner
I think a lot of heat would be cut out by removing the AC power supply. Is the power supply for the mini mac in the box or is it a seperate power brick like a laptop.
Everything is inside of the box. I always have the option of hooking up my powerbook to the car. I could remove it for home use it I wanted to too. I thought it would be interesting to put one in the car, but I don't think it's something I would do unless a company came out with the specific things needed to get it done. I'm not all about pioneering something like that .
Old 04-06-2005, 03:09 PM
  #13  
New Member
 
cctemecula's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-01-05
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hmm... you guys have me thinking about a complete glovebox mod now. DAMNIT!
Old 04-06-2005, 03:13 PM
  #14  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Vendian
Everything is inside of the box. I always have the option of hooking up my powerbook to the car. I could remove it for home use it I wanted to too. I thought it would be interesting to put one in the car, but I don't think it's something I would do unless a company came out with the specific things needed to get it done. I'm not all about pioneering something like that .
There are companys that make an ATX compatible car power supply. I just wasn't sure if the minimac is ATX or something apple has on their own.

http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/ca...it.A/id.356/.f

Must be popular cause it's out of stock. I am a build it yourself type of guy and I definetly would want to build my own computer system from the ground up.
Old 04-06-2005, 03:20 PM
  #15  
New Member
 
cctemecula's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-01-05
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
same zinner. does anyone have an approximate size of the glovebox in the cobalt?
Old 04-07-2005, 03:58 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Vendian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-22-05
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cctemecula
hmm... you guys have me thinking about a complete glovebox mod now. DAMNIT!
Lol. Once you think of the possiblity of having a full-fledged computer in the car that as a bare bones model cost $499 you can't resist but to dream of how 'great' you could make the car.
Old 04-22-2005, 04:11 PM
  #17  
New Member
 
scutzi128's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-04-05
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok Ive been planning on how I can put a pc in my coablt when I get it and I have almost everything figured out besides how to get audio to my speakers effectively. What I would really like would be if someone could take a picture of the amp in the cobalt ss so I could think about some options.
Old 04-23-2005, 04:11 AM
  #18  
New Member
 
DarthDalla's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-28-05
Location: Rockland NY
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have been searching and researching the subject of a PC in my car for weeks now and I am about to start ordering parts. mp3car.com has not only a great shop but great forums where you can find out just about anything about installing a comp in your car, all you have to do is SEARCH and the answers are there.

On another note I think I will be putting an Epia MII 12000 in my car with 512 MB or ram and 100 GB laptop HDD all in a C134 case ( about the size of a 1 din radio) and it will all go behind the dask with a remote dvd drive molded into the dash under the 8" xenarc vga touch screen.... hopefully ill get my SS/SC soon so I can start workin on it and there will DEFINATLY be pics showing the entire process since I will be doing all of the fiberglass work myself on the install. (this is a tentative plan, when I receive shipment on the car and see what I am working with exactly I will come up with a final plan of action)

PS sorry for a tad bit of a long post
Old 04-23-2005, 12:13 PM
  #19  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Sounds interesting Dartha. I have been looking at Mini ITX systems simular to what your looking at. I haven't checked out that website you mention but I will be now.

I really don't want to replace the radio, since it's the upgraded 7 speaker system with XM. I will probably try to find a way a way to tap it into the stock radio or us an FM modulator. I am interested in a car PC for GPS and navigation.

I have a Garmin GPS V right now which is a small b&w unit with only 19 megs of map memory. Upgraded GPS's are about 700-800 bux. I figure I can build something to handle the same function as the GPS for about the same and I get the extra functionality of a full PC and a project.

Which brings me to my next question. What does everyone else plan to use their car PC for? To replace the head unit entirely ?
Old 04-23-2005, 12:18 PM
  #20  
New Member
 
scutzi128's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-04-05
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would reaplce the headunit if I knew that I could hook an output from the computer into the amp, but I don't know if thats possible. I would also consider putting in a new headunit with auxillary inputs. But is it possible to use the stock pioneer 7 speaker system with a new headunit. Zinner could I bother you to take a picture of the amp or is it too hard to get to? My main focus for the pc is gps and mp3/dvd playback.
Old 04-23-2005, 12:26 PM
  #21  
Moderator Alumni
 
zinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-26-04
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 4,944
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Man I don't even know where the amp is located

If it's behind the dash I won't be cracking that open until I actually install the PC.
Old 04-23-2005, 01:27 PM
  #22  
New Member
 
scutzi128's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-04-05
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also could someone measure the glove compartment's size on the ss?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GaryGibblez
2.4L LE5 Performance Tech
20
01-14-2020 10:35 AM
06blackg85ss
ADVANCED Performance Modifications
83
01-18-2017 04:35 AM
MikeSS
General Cobalt
40
03-15-2007 11:49 AM
Vendian
General Cobalt
4
05-20-2005 12:25 PM



Quick Reply: Mac Mini in SS S/C???



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:36 PM.