Roll racing!!
03-10-2013, 08:59 AM
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Roll racing!!
Wanted to start a thread in this. I kno there's going to be sum bias becuz of our drivetrain but wanted to be broad about it. Is roll racing the next big thing or just a type of race to benefit from becuz we DNt hav traction? I mean when ur at a roll doesn't the car with the highest hp win? There's no driver in it really just hold on and punch the gas, a dig more driver and technique. Keep this clean please!!
03-10-2013, 09:19 AM
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This is going to open up a bee's nest. But ehh...I'll state my opinion.Your point of view is off in my opinion. The highest HP doesn't always win. Their are other factors.
Look at this scenario:
Back when I was on my BW s252et I raced a SRT8 challenger that was procharged and made 550whp. I was making 420. We did a 40 roll to make it even. the outcome was me winning by 5+ cars.
Weight, gearing, traction, the quality of the build, and driving do come into play. the same things that come into play when you're doing a dig.
Horsepower to weight ratio is a big thing with rolls. And it takes the huge drivetrain advantage out of it and makes it even. By your logic though, of punching the gas and going....what do you think SRT8 Jeep drivers do? What do GTR drivers do? lol. they're auto and AWD. In case of a street sense (no slicks/radials) you can take a better FWD driver and put it against a novice AWD driver with two cars that have similar HP...and the AWD driver will win every time. That's technique and skill? :P
Rolls are just as viable a type of racing as doing digs whether the people stuck in time want to believe it or not. If you have a problem with rolls, please, go to Texas 2k13 and tell all those big boy supras, UGR lambos, big boy v8s, etc that they have no skill and its all about digs. They will shake their heads and laugh at you. Big boys do it and don't have a problem with it. So I don't think any of us should.
Last edited by Scythe_Snake; 03-10-2013 at 09:34 AM.
03-10-2013, 09:28 AM
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I tend to find that roll races are safer then digs, mainly because when im doing a roll race im on the interstate and they are less cars around, more lanes to race in, and no one trying to cross the road. However if Im doing a dig its normally from a redlight and then u have to deal with people crossing the read and cars that may pull out into ur way and other **** like this.
03-10-2013, 04:27 PM
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IMHO rolls are usually won by the person with the biggest pocket book or highest reading numbers unless they mess up. They usually only lose if they miss a shift or lose traction. Sure power to weight comes into play somewhat but if the cars set up right I don't see it being an issue. I think digs take a better driver to launch and read the tree or hands or whatever your going from and to get down the track. . Sure a lot of fast drivers go from rolls but I think its more impressive seeing them from a dig then a roll. Just my opinion. Different strokes for different folks so do whatever you like best
03-10-2013, 04:28 PM
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This is going to open up a bee's nest. But ehh...I'll state my opinion.Your point of view is off in my opinion. The highest HP doesn't always win. Their are other factors.
Look at this scenario:
Back when I was on my BW s252et I raced a SRT8 challenger that was procharged and made 550whp. I was making 420. We did a 40 roll to make it even. the outcome was me winning by 5+ cars.
Weight, gearing, traction, the quality of the build, and driving do come into play. the same things that come into play when you're doing a dig.
Horsepower to weight ratio is a big thing with rolls. And it takes the huge drivetrain advantage out of it and makes it even. By your logic though, of punching the gas and going....what do you think SRT8 Jeep drivers do? What do GTR drivers do? lol. they're auto and AWD. In case of a street sense (no slicks/radials) you can take a better FWD driver and put it against a novice AWD driver with two cars that have similar HP...and the AWD driver will win every time. That's technique and skill? :P
Rolls are just as viable a type of racing as doing digs whether the people stuck in time want to believe it or not. If you have a problem with rolls, please, go to Texas 2k13 and tell all those big boy supras, UGR lambos, big boy v8s, etc that they have no skill and its all about digs. They will shake their heads and laugh at you. Big boys do it and don't have a problem with it. So I don't think any of us should.
03-10-2013, 04:31 PM
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prefer digs, more satisfaction but most races that used to happen on the road naturally where rolls. I loved digs in the balt due to not having an LSD, slight sarcasm, but when whoever wanted to go got the jump do to me having to ease into it would start thinking they had me but as soon as i ended 1st and got to 2nd I would pull hard and just walk 'em nicely.
03-10-2013, 11:45 PM
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Most of.my races are roll races from 40. In my opinion thats where my car shines. Obviously theres a good traction factor there. Also its just the easiest to do. You dont have to stop in the middle of a road and ur not at some redlight where theres cameras and people everywhere. That is stupid and dangerous to everyone that may be around. Plus i like the honking factor, its easier to get a good fair race from a roll where ur already in gear and ready to punch it.
I do my dig races at the track
I do my dig races at the track
03-11-2013, 02:46 AM
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In my opinion racing is racing but everyone is different. Race-Compete with another or others to see who is fastest at covering a set course or achieving an objective.
03-11-2013, 08:03 AM
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Dig racing puts more pressure on the driver. You can bog, spin, hook, whatever excuse. Even if you have a strong setup the road conditions may not favor you. There are alot more "factors" when it comes to a dig race it's not just about the power of the car anymore.
Roll racing eliminates alot of those, hard to bog a car when you are in 2nd gear at 3500RPMs, you have more traction, you don't have to worry about a short shift in first. Less "skill" is needed to get the car going. It puts the race on the car.
I think if you're doing a test of which car is "faster" a 40 roll is the best way to do it. Which ever car is faster will pull out ahead.
Roll racing eliminates alot of those, hard to bog a car when you are in 2nd gear at 3500RPMs, you have more traction, you don't have to worry about a short shift in first. Less "skill" is needed to get the car going. It puts the race on the car.
I think if you're doing a test of which car is "faster" a 40 roll is the best way to do it. Which ever car is faster will pull out ahead.
03-11-2013, 06:02 PM
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Very well explained, but ain't racing the point of all those factors one person would have to truly kno their car to win. Where to launch how to slip the clutch dealing with the pressure. On the flip side of it NASCAR races r from a roll when h think bout it. I c ur point.
03-12-2013, 01:35 PM
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roll races DO require skill... especially if you have a high whp car that will spin. you have to keep the power down...
but for the most part, it requires a lot less skill from going from a dig
but for the most part, it requires a lot less skill from going from a dig
03-12-2013, 01:58 PM
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i enjoy the whole "skill" thing that people think you don't need from a roll. keeping a high hp fwd car in one lane, or a 1k hp rwhp car straight, even on slicks is a required "skill"
03-12-2013, 02:11 PM
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I think rolls are the best test for which car is faster. It's all about power-to-weight ratio whereas a dig is all about the launch. You can have the fastest car on the planet, but if you can't launch it from a dig, you'll be getting smoked by everything.
03-12-2013, 04:59 PM
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03-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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oh yea speaking of roll racing i had a bunch the other night!
02 z28. intake full exhaust, converter & tune: 40-100 twice, he had me by a door twice
02 ws6: 400 hp car. 40-100 once, he had me pretty bad i think 2+ cars
new genesis 2.0t: tune and exhaust: 40-100 i won by a fender
04 gto 5.7, intake exhaust and tune (what a trend of mods were having here!) 40-130 twice, neck and neck!
06 g35, unknown mods: 40-90 beat him by a car
02 z28. intake full exhaust, converter & tune: 40-100 twice, he had me by a door twice
02 ws6: 400 hp car. 40-100 once, he had me pretty bad
i think 2+ carsnew genesis 2.0t: tune and exhaust: 40-100 i won by a fender
04 gto 5.7, intake exhaust and tune (what a trend of mods were having here!) 40-130 twice, neck and neck!
06 g35, unknown mods: 40-90 beat him by a car