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Old 02-07-2013, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
It is what it is. If you remove the price of the car itself the lnf is easier and cheaper to get into the 400s. Once you exhaust the lnfs stock fuel system the lsj takes the lead
For once, a logical, factual statement about both of these cars. Thank you!
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This forum is turning in Honda-tech and I think the majority of people know what forum that is. The Cobalt wouldn't be what it was in 2010 had they not launched the 2005. Obviously they upgrade vehicles within time.

I'm not defending my LSJ but I love it. I have take out 2 LNF Stage 1's with a GM stage 2. People forget that most people on this forum can't drive well. Why argue about the same car. I don't get it. They are both great platforms to start from.
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
With the introduction of the zfr the lnf can get into the mid 400s for around $3k
Seeing as most of the threads ive seen about the EFR are barely cracking 400/400 and some of those are on meth and aggressive tune/high boost please show me where they can get mid 400's for 3k? Cause im assuming you mean on E with other supporting mods which would make the cost jump ALOT! 5th injector and HPFP and even cams with fuel lobe are far from cheap when the turbo alone runs all most 2k If i remember correct!
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why bury urself in more dept with another car payment. just upgrade what u got. I thought about tradin in my LSJ for the LNF but tbh the LSJ has alot of potential don't let anyone say else wise. there's too many slowbalts running around to say these car's are dirt slow when they barley go outside bolt ons
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
It is what it is. If you remove the price of the car itself the lnf is easier and cheaper to get into the 400s. Once you exhaust the lnfs stock fuel system the lsj takes the lead
Which is most likely more than enough for 99 percent of people on here
Old 02-08-2013, 01:06 AM
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Jesus Christ people. All i asked was a simple question and all i got was a **** ton of **** talking. We are ALL Chevy owners here. We ALL have cobalts. Instead of **** talking each other how about we trash talk some POS hondas.
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LNF is better more reliable power...yeah go make 300hp with your stock s/c, push the limits out of it, increase heat and beat down your 100k miles engine...or take an LNF tune it with E85 and welcome 350+ hp/tq team!!...lsj has nothing to compare with an lnf...4k into the lsj vs the lnf and clearly lnf would make way over 500hp...and please stop the excuses about the fueling system...lsj changes injectors just to get 30-50 hp's more!! our system is good for over 500hp so please...be realistic! get an lnf a be a happy Cobalt SS owner
Full e85 tune pushing 500+ whp without upgrading ur fuel system? I would like to see this!
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Originally Posted by Vander Nars
Full e85 tune pushing 500+ whp without upgrading ur fuel system? I would like to see this!
For once ill agree with the nutswinger above... Show me one TC that has cracked 450-500 WHP without a serious fuel upgrade like cams with fuel lobe and HPFP and so on.. Im still waiting for 450 WHP and TQ with just an EFR swap for only 3k proof as it's not going to happen either! Dont worry ill wait cause it's not even possible! Id love to see an LNF at over 500 HP with only 4K as its also not going to happen! but you can keep dreaming!
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^^^^wow gr8 exlanation, but with the increase in car payment for trading in and bump in insurance question is will he be able to....
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insurance should be cheaper with a new car. it has more value and is safer by insurance standards. i priced a 2012 srt8 superbee and it was $2 cheaper than my 2009 cobalt ss
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Originally Posted by double clutch
Jesus Christ people. All i asked was a simple question and all i got was a **** ton of **** talking. We are ALL Chevy owners here. We ALL have cobalts. Instead of **** talking each other how about we trash talk some POS hondas.
You're new around here. You can't simply make a lsj vs lnf of any sort. People get their panties in a twist. You'll always find the same people in every one of these threads bickering at each other. You're right though, it's ******* silly. It seriously comes down to who wants to waste more money on their car.
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
With the introduction of the zfr the lnf can get into the mid 400s for around $3k
your *** drunk

Originally Posted by leemanfor
Better be careful. you are going to fuel the LSJ tards fire
you better be carefull before one of them tards rapes your slow ass lnf

Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
It is what it is. If you remove the price of the car itself the lnf is easier and cheaper to get into the 400s. Once you exhaust the lnfs stock fuel system the lsj takes the lead
your ******* high also

Originally Posted by Blitz19
LNF is better more reliable power...yeah go make 300hp with your stock s/c, push the limits out of it, increase heat and beat down your 100k miles engine...or take an LNF tune it with E85 and welcome 350+ hp/tq team!!...lsj has nothing to compare with an lnf...4k into the lsj vs the lnf and clearly lnf would make way over 500hp...and please stop the excuses about the fueling system...lsj changes injectors just to get 30-50 hp's more!! our system is good for over 500hp so please...be realistic! get an lnf a be a happy Cobalt SS owner
I bet you got dropped on your head a lot as a baby

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For once, a logical, factual statement about both of these cars. Thank you!
to a small point

Originally Posted by Vander Nars
Full e85 tune pushing 500+ whp without upgrading ur fuel system? I would like to see this!
unicorn **** I would like to see it also

you can turbo swap an lsj for a little under 2 grand and make 400 to 450 on pump and have a much better torque curve to boot
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and mrb wins...
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Originally Posted by Blitz19
LNF is better more reliable power...yeah go make 300hp with your stock s/c, push the limits out of it, increase heat and beat down your 100k miles engine...or take an LNF tune it with E85 and welcome 350+ hp/tq team!!...lsj has nothing to compare with an lnf...4k into the lsj vs the lnf and clearly lnf would make way over 500hp...and please stop the excuses about the fueling system...lsj changes injectors just to get 30-50 hp's more!! our system is good for over 500hp so please...be realistic! get an lnf a be a happy Cobalt SS owner
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
your *** drunk



you better be carefull before one of them tards rapes your slow ass lnf



your ******* high also



I bet you got dropped on your head a lot as a baby



to a small point



unicorn **** I would like to see it also

you can turbo swap an lsj for a little under 2 grand and make 400 to 450 on pump and have a much better torque curve to boot


haha, did your vagina get hurt mrb?
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
your *** drunk



you better be carefull before one of them tards rapes your slow ass lnf



your ******* high also



I bet you got dropped on your head a lot as a baby



to a small point



unicorn **** I would like to see it also

you can turbo swap an lsj for a little under 2 grand and make 400 to 450 on pump and have a much better torque curve to boot
If your main goal is ricer highway pulls and your local strip, there's some validity to what you are getting it. The LNF drives like a different car, it's not all about racing in a line. For those that like to turn, the LNF is head and shoulders above a Turbo swapped LSJ. Stock the LSJ is dung imo after a couple laps at a local track. I know because I have owned both, and worked on both.

And then there's the point that in order to make an lsj fast you need to take off the most important piece its known for... the sc. Shuddup.
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
If your main goal is ricer highway pulls and your local strip, there's some validity to what you are getting it. The LNF drives like a different car, it's not all about racing in a line. For those that like to turn, the LNF is head and shoulders above a Turbo swapped LSJ. Stock the LSJ is dung imo after a couple laps at a local track. I know because I have owned both, and worked on both.

And then there's the point that in order to make an lsj fast you need to take off the most important piece its known for... the sc. Shuddup.
Ricer highway pulls?? I'm pretty sure 99.99% of people do roll racing on here at one time or another.

To your second statement, stfu I have my blower still and I will walk your "just a tune"
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
exactly my reaction as well some people lol
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Originally Posted by double clutch
What supporting mods would i need with the tvs?
theres a main thread just for tvs builds which has more then plenty info.

but you would mainly need full exhaust, 60s or 80s, E85 if possible, heat exchanger, a good tune and enjoy 340-360whp+
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Originally Posted by 574
Ricer highway pulls?? I'm pretty sure 99.99% of people do roll racing on here at one time or another.

To your second statement, stfu I have my blower still and I will walk your "just a tune"
never met a SC that could hang with a E85 LNF. Sorry
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Originally Posted by 574
Ricer highway pulls?? I'm pretty sure 99.99% of people do roll racing on here at one time or another.

To your second statement, stfu I have my blower still and I will walk your "just a tune"
a) I have more than just a tune

b) Lets take it to the track and you'll get your ass destroyed.

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Originally Posted by double clutch
Jesus Christ people. All i asked was a simple question and all i got was a **** ton of **** talking. We are ALL Chevy owners here. We ALL have cobalts. Instead of **** talking each other how about we trash talk some POS hondas.
Meh, I love my Honda's. Society is stupid. At the end of every day we all drive around in nothing but metal shaped items that get us from point A to B. I don't care if you have an exotic car or not. It is all status quo and it seems like people get caught up in ripping apart vehicles because of the make, model, or power.

I love reading these threads where people that should be helping each other get their panties in a bunch. Are we too stupid to realize how dumb we all look when we bicker about what vehicle is better than another? People, stand back and read this thread and every other thread out there like this one.

I think this thread should get back on topic or end it.
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Originally Posted by DarkChild

Meh, I love my Honda's. Society is stupid. At the end of every day we all drive around in nothing but metal shaped items that get us from point A to B. I don't care if you have an exotic car or not. It is all status quo and it seems like people get caught up in ripping apart vehicles because of the make, model, or power.

I love reading these threads where people that should be helping each other get their panties in a bunch. Are we too stupid to realize how dumb we all look when we bicker about what vehicle is better than another? People, stand back and read this thread and every other thread out there like this one.

I think this thread should get back on topic or end it.
I feel the same way, I just lost my temper


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