nikeair042

I am a member of this forum, as well as the SRT4 forums, and everyone compares the SRT4 and the SS, much like the STi and the EVO. I think that instead of comparing of which is better, which is worse, should gang up on the imports and show Domestic power. SRT4 guys, the SRT4 is faster...hands down, stock, or not stock, it will beat a SS, as of right now. So dont brag how you beat an SS or how SS's are slow. There is a video floating around of an SRT4 destroying a silver SS. The SS is completely stock, and the SRT4 is highly moddified (from what I heard.) I don't own either, I have been between both for about a year lol. I think in terms of power, SRT4 has the best bang for buck and the upgrades are crazy right now for the car. I think the SS has a better interior. All I see is the comparison on each site about putting eachothers cars down and how one is better then the other. Each car has pluse's and minus's in different catagories. I think it would be a lot better to try and work together to take back american dominance. Both cars are in the same price range, both are american, and both are quick. Remember, the SRT4 in 2003 only had 205hp, and the Cobalt SS now has 205hp. It just doesnt make sense when ppl are like "man, i want to see a SS so I can smoke one." And then stupid SS owners say "stock for stock, the SS can keep up." Stock v Stock, I still give it to SRT4, then again how many SRT4's are stock? So next time u see a SRT4 or vice versa, dont give them the look of death like there car is inferior and no good. Now if you see a Civic with a Maxwell House coffee can as the exhaust, feel free to give hand gestures, throw things, curse, and then destroy it. Work together. Not against eachother.

Chevy4Life85

We have been through this before it will never stop though becuase not everyone shares yoru view. SOme people dont mind imports its not all about Imports vs american I would buy an EVO or an STI if I could. I would prob still have a Silverado or somethin in my driveway too becuase I love chevy but dont think the SRT and the SS are going to go take on the import world...

Also the reason why theres sooo much argument between them is becuase the SS does show enough potential to pose a threat to the SRT thats why people argue. If the SS didnt pose a threat nobody would care.

Vooduguru

I see it more as a brand v. brand debate. There are Mopar Purists and GM purists, never the twain shall agree.

JapEatr

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tell ya what, i am not trying to start stuff, but when i have been driving fords for the past 6 years i know a fast chevy when i see one. I have gotten the hang of driving the hell out of the SS and there hasnt been much i couldnt at least catch, i have only lost to 3 cars an 05 mustang GT, a 350z w/ exhaust, and an STI that wasnt going to quit fukin wit me until i raced him.

i have SMOKED an 05 RSX S, a stock 350 not sure about the drivers sexuality creepy wierdo cats, and i have taken a eclipse GST, a 04 tibby v6 and 66 mustang stock 289 father in laws

if an SRT4 that some one just buys and still has paper tags on it wants to race me b4 he/she can really drive it, that doesnt prove anything/(we wouldnt be equal)

now if some one owns a completly stock SRT4 with about the ssame skill i got wants to run, i am not sure how it will turn out

mod for mod, the SS will be competition to the SRT4

the brotherly sibling rivallry of eating the japs should be united but lets get real, they are both
pretty evenly matched

my turbo escort running 9 psi beat an srt4 that was running like 12 psi and that was with a single cam stock bottom end

so im not too sure that it would be an SRT4s race, but i know the SS would smoke my old escort any day any way

zinner

not that I am calling BS but how can a turbo escort beat and SRT-4. That had to be one hell of a car.

Vooduguru

Turbo escort, too bad the tranny won't last 5 runs.

JapEatr

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2.0head/ 1.9L block 1.5mm head gasket, lightened everything garret t03 blade in a t4 housing
9psi stock fuelpump stock injectors, no fmu just rising rate FPR
ran it at 15 psi before getting the SS a month ago,

it would mob hard and with the low compression i have seen another guy with same hybrid motor running 20psi no knock, stock bottom end

to give the guy credit, he had his black srt4 for about a month he said, and i knew how to squeeze every bit of power out of the scort

also i have put 7 transmissions in it including swapping it from auto to manual they will hold up if your not as aggresive as i was on the launches

but it was daily driven and would run 14.1 all day long on 17in potenzas\

any other questions...lol i could talk about my old escort for weeks on end and never shut up

JapEatr

iTrader: (9)

oh yeah and stock axles with auto zone lifetime core replacement

went through more than 10 of em

JapEatr

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wished it was the escort cosworth tho

all wheel drive turbo tuned to 400hp like in getaway in stockholm

nikeair042

I think stock for stock, and SS can hang with a SRT4, but I think the SRT4 will still win. I wanted a SRT4 so bad last year...I saved up since last year, but the other day I went to see the Cobalt SS. The SRT4 may have the better power numbers, but I want a car that can perform, and also look good. The interior is 10X better then the SRT4, and I think the exterior is nicer also. Overal I think the SS is better, that is why I am looking into an SS. When I go to raceway park during the compact sport survival series, it would be cool to see the SS and SRT4 take out the imports one by one, insteading of taking eachother out the whole time lol.

cs_88

Before it was CUda VS Camaro, now it is Cobalt VS SRT-4.

nathanstl

I agree with you mostly, although I love comparing all cars. I like the Cobalt SS/SC's a lot, but you have to compare when they are closely matched. It's fun to compare and it's fun to race or challenge cars that have close to the same performance. Now the problem is the flamers and immature people that get on here and just try to put your car down. I'm trying to hook up with a local owner of a Cobalt SS/SC so we can make a fair comparison stock vs. stock so all the people will have something to go off. I'm not sure what we will do yet, but I do have a Gtech Pro Competition so we could do some 0-60 comparison's and maybe even 1/8|1/4 runs if we can find a safe place to do so. I'll try to get some video as well. I'm very curious to see how they will stack up. Now the SRT-4 in 2003 actually had 215 HP / 230 TQ and now has 230 HP / 250 TQ so it's obvious which one has more power, but then we have to get into gearing and weight which can make a big difference. I look forward to meeting some of the Cobalt/SRT-4 owners from St. Louis, MO.

Vooduguru

Actually it was Camaro vs Mustang. The Cuda was introduced about 2 weeks before the mustang but it was never considered real competition to the mustang and camaro. That is of course until 1970

rm25x

They are all wussy econo cars. There better?

philco_3

Shouldnt have to wait that long, I have a Red SS and my friend just got a arrival blue one the other week. My friend from Belleville also has a black SRT4. Usually every first Saturday of the month were at Ruby Tuesdays in SoCo off of Waltson, but I think were down the road at the bowling alley this month.

jzchev28

i love the SS....i have many dreams about the car, if i wasnt such i chevy nut i would concider the srt, but never any of that jap crap, its a shame that people buy that crap and hurt the american economy. oh well..people are stupid...i guess thats why a dirty company like wallmart is doing so well.

cs_88

Funny how the cobalt only lacks in torque. Most of the 2005s dyno at 215HP
Torque is kinda miserable at 180 though...

SS_SC_Cobalt

I agree, got both, lol

Chevy4Life85

How about this... Whats great about both cars is that they are btoh fast off the lot.

Now you can leave both cars alone forever and still have very nice very fast little cars, but its ncie to have the option of making it fast as hell without too much of a problem thats why the SS and the SRT are both awesome

rodney

Every car that is not driven by me is "The Enemy".

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Nightcrawler

haha That one made me chuckle.

scottw03

I think it all comes down to the individuals. There are a bunch of us SRT-4 guys and like 2 Cobalt SS/SCs over here in England and we all get along. It might be also that we are all military and kind of like us americans against the brits, nothing against them.

The Cobalt SS/SCs here run slower times than us but they are usually close races to within a car or so. Fastest time I have seen one run so far is a 14.5 I believe. But then again the fastest we have put down is 13.8 (S2 modded SRT-4). I hope each time we go to the track that everyone breaks either their own record or breaks the groups record.

We all get along pretty well and help out with installs on each others cars. I know very little about the SS/SC but then again that is what the forums are for, to help learn. I like the SS/SC alot. It is a great american built car that is fast and nice styling. If I could own a second car it would probably be the SS/SC. But I like my SRT-4 more, styling, looks, engine, and interior. My last car was a POS hyundai elantra 1994, so moving up to the SRT-4 was like getting a BMW for me

Overall, I like your site, I like your car and the guys that I have met so far I like too. There is no reason we can't get along. someone car will always be faster than someone elses. Whether it be a Cobalt or a Neon. it all depends on mods. The only fair comparison is stock vs stock. After that all bets are off.

Anyway, I will be lurking around your site checking out what you guys are up to, trying to learn and understand your mods and how they interact with your car. I hope I don't offend anyone while I am here look forward to conversing with you all. Cya around.

Scott

PuSha050

... scottw03... are u saying that the fastest srt4 out there is 13.8? or the fastest you ran? (hope ur talkin about the fastest you ran--saw about 10 srt4;s run in the 11;s this weekend alone)

there was no noticible difference between the dynos of 03 srt4's and 04 and 05 srt4's even with the increase in advertised HP and torque. the only difference was the bigger injectors and addition of a quaife LSD. but stock power output was the same on a dyno. also cobalts put down similar whp numbers to the srt4 but give up about 40 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels to the srt4, which is where (stock for stock) they get their advantage.

and , as everyone knows.. srt4s have a huge aftermarket where the cobalt has a much smaller aftermarket..

and just sayin, we cant use the excuse of we havent been around as long as the srt4;s.. .when the srt4 was three years old they already had a huge aftermarket where as weve been around for three years (four if u count the redline) and still dont have nearly as big an aftermarket

o and i love the srt4.. drive my friends all the time

Jackalope

Hmmm, stock for stock the SRT-4 Neon and Cobalt SS have the same 1/4 mile times so I don't see either one smokin the other, sorry.

PuSha050

no they dont.. thats magazine racing.. most people run mid 14;s with ss/sc stock with a few breaking into the 14.1, 14.2, 14.3 region

srt4's mostly run in teh 14.0, 14.1, 14.2 region with some breaking into 13.9 and even RARELY 13.8 still stock!!! just because some magazine ran a 14.4 with both cars doesnt mean they are the same..

and no1 ever said one smokes the other.. its just hte srt4 is a lil bit faster stock for stock