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Old 01-05-2016 | 07:41 AM
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SS/TC heat issue

Today it is -20 deg celcious outside. Which is i think around -4 ferinhight. And my car is not goving out very good heat at all. The heat is MAYBE luke warm at best. It feels like there is a constent chill in my car because the heater isnt that hot at all. After a 20 m8n drive to work the inside of my car is not all that warm at all. The tstat has never been replaced. But the coolant temp of the engine is anywhere between 89 to 92 deg celcious. Which is about 190 to 195 ish ferhinh. I have had the car sense near brand new and i have never put anything in the coolant system that could gunk up the heater core. I do have a small mode selector acuator issue. Which controls if the heat is directed to the vents on the floor or the dash or where ever. But that shouldnt really affect how HOT the air gets. Which is not good in my car. Any ideas what it could be ? Idk if its more likely a bad hc or tstat issue or what ? But i need to figure it out. Im freezing. Lol.
Old 01-05-2016 | 08:21 AM
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Coolant temps look fine.

Stop being a baby and suck it up.

Kidding.

Tried searching for you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/prob...o-heat-275831/
Old 01-05-2016 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Coolant temps look fine.

Stop being a baby and suck it up.

Kidding.

Tried searching for you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/prob...o-heat-275831/

Vent door possibly. But when i turn the heat knob it does get colder and then a bit warmer when i turn it back to the warm position. Its just not as warm as it shoupd be a all. Unless maybe the door is staying open too much instead of closing all the way. Where is the door at. Just over top of the heater core ? Or up in the glove box by the cabin air filter ?

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Old 01-05-2016 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Coolant temps look fine.

Stop being a baby and suck it up.

Kidding.

Tried searching for you
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/prob...o-heat-275831/
I couldnt get the pdf to open.
Old 01-05-2016 | 01:16 PM
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This sounds like its worth a shot

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What they told you sounds like it could be true. When you turn the Hot/Cold ***, your selecting to bring air accross the Heater Core (Hot) or the AC Condensor (Cold) If your AC is off, then it will be like vent air. TUrn your Hot/Cold knob to full hot, then turn on your ac max ac but leave the temp in full hot. See if it blows normal temp air, or COLD Air. if it blows cold air, then its a valve/door issue or could be the knob itself as it would still be blowing the air over the condensor instead of the heater core. If it blows regular temp air, or vent, then your problem could be a clogged heater core.
Old 01-05-2016 | 01:43 PM
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Vent door or just crap/rust built up in the heater core. A good coolant flush product will help clean it out, along with light water pressure into the lines going to the heater core. A lot easier to do inside a garage or during the summer LOL
Old 01-05-2016 | 02:13 PM
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I need to figure out where the door isbthat controls the air flow over the heater core .
Old 01-05-2016 | 03:59 PM
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On the way home i just noticed at a red light that my cars engine temp dropped from 92 deg to 82 deg. While at idle. Thats a ten deg drop while at a red light. I thought normal cars heat up while sitting still. Lol... So maybe my tstat is shot causing no heat/.low poor heat.
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Originally Posted by QuickSilver_SS
On the way home i just noticed at a red light that my cars engine temp dropped from 92 deg to 82 deg. While at idle. Thats a ten deg drop while at a red light. I thought normal cars heat up while sitting still. Lol... So maybe my tstat is shot causing no heat/.low poor heat.
That's what 180 F? That's very low for idle. You may be right about thermostat
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Could be stuck open or sticking.
Old 01-05-2016 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
That's what 180 F? That's very low for idle. You may be right about thermostat
Not when the ambient temperature is -4 F. I believe the OEM thermostat is 180F. If it only ever got up to 160 or something, then that would indicate the thermostat isn't fully closing.

Seems to me that something is dicked with the HVAC system.
Old 01-05-2016 | 10:58 PM
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either your thermostat is done for or your heatercore is clogged due to the dex cool geling up. I have seen both happen. Thermostats the easiest to get to and change. IF you need to unclog the heater core blow compressed air through it for a band aid fix.
Old 01-06-2016 | 12:12 AM
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My car barely starts heating after 20 mins.
Old 01-06-2016 | 07:56 PM
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Pretty easy to check if the heater core is blocked at all. Pop the hood while its hot and feel the hoses going into the core and out of the core. They should be somewhat similar in temperature. Blocked ones alot of time will have a hot in and a cold feeling out since there is nothing passing thru it.

Easy to flush out a heater core, Not so easy if you have alot of miles on the car and/or the core is thin to begin with and you go and apply compressed air and create a leak. Fast way to be doing a heater core job.

Try back flushing with water first. Leave the compressed air for tires lol unless of course you are a careful kinda guy with the compressed air lol
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SS/TC heat issue

He'll be fine to use compressed air as long as he doesn't put 90psi on it, regulate it down to 5-10psi (rad cap pops at 15psi iirc). Some people's water supply is at 40+psi

Originally Posted by cluelessk
My car barely starts heating after 20 mins.
Damn mines heated up in 10 mins of driving (easy not taking it above 3500 or half throttle and a 6ish second idle warmup)
Old 01-06-2016 | 09:15 PM
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Like i said, as long as He is careful. Some are not.
Old 01-06-2016 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by izcain
Like i said, as long as He is careful. Some are not.
Air or water, pressure is pressure.
Old 01-06-2016 | 11:31 PM
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no your kidding really? Lol

Just figured most people have less water pressure then air pressure. That's why I said it.


Some people just have to have the last say, I understand.
Old 01-07-2016 | 06:13 AM
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I need to try something asap. Im already tired of being cold while deiving to work and wearing a hat and mittens in my car. Lol... I will says this also too. There is something screwie going on with my hvac also. The vents. On the side of the dash by the windows have way more air flow out if them then ylthe twonin the middle of the dash above the radio. It was never like that before. But, despite that the air coming from all the vents is only slightly warm ish. Not hot at all.
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Originally Posted by QuickSilver_SS
I need to try something asap. Im already tired of being cold while deiving to work and wearing a hat and mittens in my car. Lol... I will says this also too. There is something screwie going on with my hvac also. The vents. On the side of the dash by the windows have way more air flow out if them then ylthe twonin the middle of the dash above the radio. It was never like that before. But, despite that the air coming from all the vents is only slightly warm ish. Not hot at all.
So your door sounds fucked up.

Also, close the vents on the other side, You don't need them.
Old 01-15-2016 | 09:38 AM
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I noticed yesterday that now my car blows even colder air at idle or a red light. And once i get going again the heat that i do have comes back. Bit as soon as i stop or it is at idle. It blows even colder air. Odk why it would do that. My coolant is totally full.
Old 01-15-2016 | 11:20 AM
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If the system is burped fully, thermostat working, then I'd guess you still have a door actuator problem.
Old 01-15-2016 | 12:00 PM
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If it is blowing cold when you stop it really sounds like the thermostat is not functioning properly.

So it engages more often then it should causing the car to not properly stay warm. That's why your temps drop every time you stop. Or this is a heater core that is clogged.

I doubt it is the door because that should not effect the temperature of heat going through the vents.
Old 01-15-2016 | 12:38 PM
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If it's a tstat issue then the coolant temp would be below 180°F. If it's above 180°F then the tstat would be open anyways. This is either door or clogged core to me.
Old 01-15-2016 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by exninja
If it's a tstat issue then the coolant temp would be below 180°F. If it's above 180°F then the tstat would be open anyways. This is either door or clogged core to me.
Im going to check the door as soon as i get home. I will remove the acuator and move the door manually and see how it moves and how the heat feels. Hopefully i dont break or strip it. Is the acuator on the drivers side?


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