test drove cobalt SC, charger R/T, srt4
#26
Originally Posted by codyss
I am not arguing that SRT-4's aren't fast. I am just trying to get the point accross that they are not the fire breathing monsters some claim they are. Christ, there just a Neon with some kick!
I have taken my Camaro SS's and Mustang to the track several time but I am not going out of my way to post my slips. 12.9 for a LS1 is nothing special to me, I just wanted a sub 13 second car.
This argument can go on forever. I think the real problem here is that most SRT-4 owners have never had a " real " car. My SS/SC is the lowest HP car I have owned in 5 years. I guess if I never had any of my 4th gen F-Bodies I would most likely talk like my SS/SC was the baddest car built also............
I have taken my Camaro SS's and Mustang to the track several time but I am not going out of my way to post my slips. 12.9 for a LS1 is nothing special to me, I just wanted a sub 13 second car.
This argument can go on forever. I think the real problem here is that most SRT-4 owners have never had a " real " car. My SS/SC is the lowest HP car I have owned in 5 years. I guess if I never had any of my 4th gen F-Bodies I would most likely talk like my SS/SC was the baddest car built also............
Just relax We appreciate all cars here.
#28
I would personally rather not get into any type of argument about either car. I bought my SS because I am a GM fanboy and I like the car. I also like the SRT-4 and hey, it is a bit quicker, but like I said, I like GM. I'd like to be able to hang out with some fellow SS owners as well as SRT-4 owners and not get into some stupid scuffle about who's car is faster. Personally I couldn't care less. I have yet to race my car against anything but a honda civic with a stupid whale fin 5 times the size of mine and I loved every second of it.
#29
Originally Posted by codyss
I would most likely talk like my SS/SC was the baddest car built also............
#30
Originally Posted by MarcS
Most SRT-4 owners on here have been very nice and supportive. However, if you go to Jbody.org or some other site, you'll get the jerks who claim to be the fastest thing on the road.
Just relax We appreciate all cars here.
Just relax We appreciate all cars here.
#31
Originally Posted by codyss
Your ignorance makes me laugh.
Now a GT isn't equal to a SRT-4 either? My 2003 GT with a K&N and nothing else ran a best time of 13.98.
This whole SRT-4 vs SS argument is stupid.
What exactly do you think is so much better about your awesome sedans? It isn't going to win based on HP, TQ or gearing so what is it?
I am sorry to tell you this but the SRT-4 isn't the top FWD dog anymore.
Deal with it but quit coming here acting like your cars destroy all.
#34
lol, I agree this thread is crazy. Its like Im back in the SRTforums war stories forum!!
Anyways I don't like to boast about my srt4 but its when people like you codyss that just bug me when you post your opinion or experiences and believe because it happened with you thats the way it is everywhere. I give you props for pulling an srt4 with ur cobalt ss especially from a roll but don't say the cobalt is faster just because of your one experience.
I haven't run into an ss but I can't wait, but I do know TONS of people in kansas and other states that have. Every single story (both from srt drivers AND cobalt ss/sc drivers) started the story with the cobalt getting a jump andended it with the srt leading anywhere from half a car to 2 cars. Im not saying the srt is better but just telling you other peoples experiences. I'd think the cobalt ss/sc best advantage would be the start because of your instant power. I mean from a roll, don't say ur car dominates, we have no lag from a roll if the srt driver knows how to brake boost. I eagerly await an ss here in kansas. No matter the result I'll definetly respect another domestic 4 cylinder forced induction car.
Heck, what I paid for my car plus a couple thousand dollars is still cheaper then a cobalt ss and I totally rape camaro ss (lt1's) and hang with camaro ss(ls1's) Then again there are camaro ss's that can rape me also
I guess my final point is all cars are different so SHUTUP!!!!
Now just to support my forum and srt peeps "The SRT4 is teh pwnage!!!!!"
If there are any cobalt ss/sc in the kansas area come on down to topeka and hang out. It'd be sweet to get some of you guys down here with the srt club.
Jon
PS: I can't wait until you guys get the aftermarket support, I just hope you guys will be fortunate enough as we have. I know revitupmotorsports have posted up some exhaust vids on the srtforums, and It sounds killer.
edit: forgot to add, Nathan if your ever near Topeka or KC gimme a message, maybe we can meet up.
AIM: LittleNoj87
Anyways I don't like to boast about my srt4 but its when people like you codyss that just bug me when you post your opinion or experiences and believe because it happened with you thats the way it is everywhere. I give you props for pulling an srt4 with ur cobalt ss especially from a roll but don't say the cobalt is faster just because of your one experience.
I haven't run into an ss but I can't wait, but I do know TONS of people in kansas and other states that have. Every single story (both from srt drivers AND cobalt ss/sc drivers) started the story with the cobalt getting a jump andended it with the srt leading anywhere from half a car to 2 cars. Im not saying the srt is better but just telling you other peoples experiences. I'd think the cobalt ss/sc best advantage would be the start because of your instant power. I mean from a roll, don't say ur car dominates, we have no lag from a roll if the srt driver knows how to brake boost. I eagerly await an ss here in kansas. No matter the result I'll definetly respect another domestic 4 cylinder forced induction car.
Heck, what I paid for my car plus a couple thousand dollars is still cheaper then a cobalt ss and I totally rape camaro ss (lt1's) and hang with camaro ss(ls1's) Then again there are camaro ss's that can rape me also
I guess my final point is all cars are different so SHUTUP!!!!
Now just to support my forum and srt peeps "The SRT4 is teh pwnage!!!!!"
If there are any cobalt ss/sc in the kansas area come on down to topeka and hang out. It'd be sweet to get some of you guys down here with the srt club.
Jon
PS: I can't wait until you guys get the aftermarket support, I just hope you guys will be fortunate enough as we have. I know revitupmotorsports have posted up some exhaust vids on the srtforums, and It sounds killer.
edit: forgot to add, Nathan if your ever near Topeka or KC gimme a message, maybe we can meet up.
AIM: LittleNoj87
#36
My srt is slightly modded and I don't have too much experiences with a stock srt, but I know stock srts that have ran 13's to low 14's bone stock, stock tires. All depends on condition of track i guess. I believe one of the faster stock srt's on the forums ran a 13.68.
I know a guy who has kept up/slightly pulled an lt1 but when stock the ls1 pretty much owns. Its just the fact that the srt4 responds damn well to mods.
My mods: AGP WGA, Stg 1 PCM, borla catback exhaust, turboxs mbc, swaybars, throttlebody, kn cai, prothane motor mount inserts, msd ignition wires, and a mopar bov/noisemaker lol. All that for a 1500 - 2000 dollars is pretty sweet, and as stated above I've graduated to keeping up/sligtly pulling ls1's now. Don't get me wrong ls1's are badass and a slightly modded one would probably walk me, but i haven't run into one yet.
I know a guy who has kept up/slightly pulled an lt1 but when stock the ls1 pretty much owns. Its just the fact that the srt4 responds damn well to mods.
My mods: AGP WGA, Stg 1 PCM, borla catback exhaust, turboxs mbc, swaybars, throttlebody, kn cai, prothane motor mount inserts, msd ignition wires, and a mopar bov/noisemaker lol. All that for a 1500 - 2000 dollars is pretty sweet, and as stated above I've graduated to keeping up/sligtly pulling ls1's now. Don't get me wrong ls1's are badass and a slightly modded one would probably walk me, but i haven't run into one yet.
#38
I ran a best of 13.76 stock. With $300 in drag radials & wheels + about $5 in mods (carb spring attached to the Waste Gate Actuator & a Bleed hole on the WGA line) I ran a 13.53.
My best w/ the current mods is 13.3 w/ the slicks rubbing the strutts from about the 1/8 mile on.
My best w/ the current mods is 13.3 w/ the slicks rubbing the strutts from about the 1/8 mile on.
#39
yea, id bow down to the skills of that driver lol. Launching a powerful fwd car isn't the easiest thing to do heh.
I was just reading some of codyss's posts more carefully and you think a 1999 mustang gt run similar times stock vs. stock as an srt4?? WHAT??? maybe the 2003 2004 generation and ofcourse the new ones but correct me if Im wrong, I've heard the 1999 generations COBRA's are just as fast as the 2003-2004 gen. GT's stock vs. stock. So wouldn't the 1999 GT be even slower?? Idunno maybe I heard or read wrong from somewhere but I thought that generation was slower then the 2003 generation.
I was just reading some of codyss's posts more carefully and you think a 1999 mustang gt run similar times stock vs. stock as an srt4?? WHAT??? maybe the 2003 2004 generation and ofcourse the new ones but correct me if Im wrong, I've heard the 1999 generations COBRA's are just as fast as the 2003-2004 gen. GT's stock vs. stock. So wouldn't the 1999 GT be even slower?? Idunno maybe I heard or read wrong from somewhere but I thought that generation was slower then the 2003 generation.
#41
stock, mine ran 14.0@100mph at about 3500ft above sealevel my first time out ever in the SRT, then it rained out, so i never got another run in. and then i modded it
now that im modded i have been running 13.7s but some of the guys here are at 13.3/13.4 with the same mods as me on STOCK tires.....(so as you can see i need to launch the car better.....but its hard with 317wtq...lol)
now that im modded i have been running 13.7s but some of the guys here are at 13.3/13.4 with the same mods as me on STOCK tires.....(so as you can see i need to launch the car better.....but its hard with 317wtq...lol)
#43
Originally Posted by codyss
I know what a SRT-4 running that kind of boost is capable of, but I still smoked him in my Camaro SS.
And yes people are racing SRT-4's we aren't stupid.
If you drive a SRT-4 and beat a Cobalt SS especially from a roll you are either
1) Flat out lying about the race
2) Racing a SS/SC with 200 miles on it
3) Racing against someone who has no driving skills what so ever
Period
And yes people are racing SRT-4's we aren't stupid.
If you drive a SRT-4 and beat a Cobalt SS especially from a roll you are either
1) Flat out lying about the race
2) Racing a SS/SC with 200 miles on it
3) Racing against someone who has no driving skills what so ever
Period
Are you on crack? Lol. The SRT-4 runs a 13.5 in the quarter mile *STOCK* with a good driver. You obviously raced someone that had NO clue what they were doing with their SRT...
The SRT-4 is much quicker than the Cobalt SS, no offense. However, I love the appearance of the Cobalt SS over my SRT-4...especially the interior
#45
Originally Posted by frankmckeever
Are you on crack? Lol. The SRT-4 runs a 13.5 in the quarter mile *STOCK* with a good driver. You obviously raced someone that had NO clue what they were doing with their SRT...
The SRT-4 is much quicker than the Cobalt SS, no offense. However, I love the appearance of the Cobalt SS over my SRT-4...especially the interior
The SRT-4 is much quicker than the Cobalt SS, no offense. However, I love the appearance of the Cobalt SS over my SRT-4...especially the interior
Its a drivers race against a 260HP Mustang GT, and they run 13.8-14.0. The times your talking about are what the new 300HP Mustangs run, and thats not even a race against a stock SRT-4.
As I said, we know the SRT-4 is slighty faster than the SS, but lets not blow things out of proportion
#46
Like what has been said before CodySS is all talk and no walk. I don't no what world he lives in. He lives in Nebraska, so maybe the rows of corn are getting to him? Like I said in another thread, I raced an SRT4 ACR from a 20mph roll and he pulled just short of a car length on me and I can drive the hell out of my SS. I have never seen this guy post any times from the track, which is the true gauge of what you can do in the quarter, obviously! The best I have heard of an SS doing is a 14.4. The best I have done in a non-LSD SS is a 14.707. These numbers would be average at best for a person that can drive an SRT4! I never bought my SS with clouded fanboi judgement, I bought mainly for the style and the possible aftermarket future for the SS's and RL's. CodySS, wake up and stop being an arragont A$$! Your making SS owners that live in the real world look bad!
#47
Originally Posted by wesmanw02
Well there's no doubt that the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C, but they sure as hell don't run 13.5's stock. The best I've ever seen or read of was 13.8, and thats with an excellent driver. They are not even close to a full second faster than the SS S/C, half a second at most.
My best stock time was a 13.76, my average stock time was a high 13.8 (most were 13.8's and 13.9's).
Now on street tires at street boost I could totally flub the launch and probably still run a 13.9 (@115mph )
#48
Originally Posted by wesmanw02
Well there's no doubt that the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C, but they sure as hell don't run 13.5's stock. The best I've ever seen or read of was 13.8, and thats with an excellent driver. They are not even close to a full second faster than the SS S/C, half a second at most.
Its a drivers race against a 260HP Mustang GT, and they run 13.8-14.0. The times your talking about are what the new 300HP Mustangs run, and thats not even a race against a stock SRT-4.
As I said, we know the SRT-4 is slighty faster than the SS, but lets not blow things out of proportion
Its a drivers race against a 260HP Mustang GT, and they run 13.8-14.0. The times your talking about are what the new 300HP Mustangs run, and thats not even a race against a stock SRT-4.
As I said, we know the SRT-4 is slighty faster than the SS, but lets not blow things out of proportion
Yeah, that's true. I guess I can't really judge with a stock SRT4 though. I have one, but I bought mine already modded. So when I run different cars, things are a little different ...
#49
Originally Posted by codyss
A couple members here will chime in after I post but oh well.
Two of my good friends have SRT-4's. One is 100% stock to the filter and the other only has some kind of " Ricer " intake on it. When my car was showroom fresh and when I was driving nicely it was a even match stop light to stop light and in the 1/4. The only time I couldn't hang was when we would mess around from a high MPH roll then they could usually put a fender on me. Now with 2000+ miles my high end is way better and the SRT-4's see tail lights. Stop light races are still pretty even but even in my Camaro SS my SS/SC will hang light to light.
Two of my good friends have SRT-4's. One is 100% stock to the filter and the other only has some kind of " Ricer " intake on it. When my car was showroom fresh and when I was driving nicely it was a even match stop light to stop light and in the 1/4. The only time I couldn't hang was when we would mess around from a high MPH roll then they could usually put a fender on me. Now with 2000+ miles my high end is way better and the SRT-4's see tail lights. Stop light races are still pretty even but even in my Camaro SS my SS/SC will hang light to light.
#50
YA ok guys u claim Cody SS is bullshitting lets see all this proof of you running 13.5 in the 1/4 haha. Hes right also i have never had an srt4 beat me by more than a bumper. With best possible drivers an srt will get a 13.8 i have never seen one run faster than 14.3 but i can see where it can be a little faster but with what the neon srt4 has over the SS is shattered in looks cause nothing is uglier than the srt4, and if you dont like us dissing your srt4 then get the **** off our forums. Why dont you guys go back to srtforums and talk about all the ferrari's you smoked. LOL