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Old 06-21-2005 | 08:29 PM
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I am not arguing that SRT-4's aren't fast. I am just trying to get the point accross that they are not the fire breathing monsters some claim they are. Christ, there just a Neon with some kick!

I have taken my Camaro SS's and Mustang to the track several time but I am not going out of my way to post my slips. 12.9 for a LS1 is nothing special to me, I just wanted a sub 13 second car.

This argument can go on forever. I think the real problem here is that most SRT-4 owners have never had a " real " car. My SS/SC is the lowest HP car I have owned in 5 years. I guess if I never had any of my 4th gen F-Bodies I would most likely talk like my SS/SC was the baddest car built also............
Most SRT-4 owners on here have been very nice and supportive. However, if you go to Jbody.org or some other site, you'll get the jerks who claim to be the fastest thing on the road.

Just relax We appreciate all cars here.
Old 06-21-2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcS
Just relax We appreciate all cars here.
exactly.... especially cobalts.....
Old 06-21-2005 | 08:48 PM
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I would personally rather not get into any type of argument about either car. I bought my SS because I am a GM fanboy and I like the car. I also like the SRT-4 and hey, it is a bit quicker, but like I said, I like GM. I'd like to be able to hang out with some fellow SS owners as well as SRT-4 owners and not get into some stupid scuffle about who's car is faster. Personally I couldn't care less. I have yet to race my car against anything but a honda civic with a stupid whale fin 5 times the size of mine and I loved every second of it.
Old 06-21-2005 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
I would most likely talk like my SS/SC was the baddest car built also............
That's just it, you do talk like that! That's what started the whole thing. Look at your own sig. Look at your post explaining "the only way" a SRT-4 could possibly beat a cobalt ss. Yeah I drive a peppy neon and you drive a peppy cobalt. That's equal. Plus we aren't the ones acting like our cars are the ****. That was you. Oh and who cares about your f bodies, any of us could've had one of them for half what we paid for our cars. Almost everyone on this forum is cool and realizes that I'm not trying to say my car is the ****. I'm simply calling you out to prove all your claims. I'm done with this thread and hopefully on to some meaningful ones.
Old 06-21-2005 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcS
Most SRT-4 owners on here have been very nice and supportive. However, if you go to Jbody.org or some other site, you'll get the jerks who claim to be the fastest thing on the road.

Just relax We appreciate all cars here.
I second that!
Old 06-22-2005 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Your ignorance makes me laugh.
Actually I think it's all that pot you're smoking that's making you laugh. You strike me as the kind of guy that would get stoned and laugh at a bowl of jello because it's wiggly.

Now a GT isn't equal to a SRT-4 either? My 2003 GT with a K&N and nothing else ran a best time of 13.98.
The newer GT's (2005) are on par with the SRT-4. The older GT's (2004 & below) are not. I've toasted countless Mustang GT's, stock and lightly modified where it counts -- At the track (I don't street race). The local track announcer even calls the SRT-4's "Mustang Hunters." 13.98 is respectable, if you really pulled that off then you either race at a decent track (with decent prep) or you're a pretty good driver. At my local track (which isn't known for it's track prep) An older Mustang GT w/ just a K&N would be lucky to see the low side of a 14.2.

This whole SRT-4 vs SS argument is stupid.
Then why do you keep bashing the SRT-4 in nearly every post you make? YOU are the one that keeps instigating the argument.

What exactly do you think is so much better about your awesome sedans? It isn't going to win based on HP, TQ or gearing so what is it?
So 60-70 more ftlbs throughout the entire RPM range doesn't count for anything? You, sir, are a moron if you think that.

I am sorry to tell you this but the SRT-4 isn't the top FWD dog anymore.
Puff, Puff, PASS. Quit being a pothog man, and stay away from that shroom laced stuff, it makes you see things that aren't there.

Deal with it but quit coming here acting like your cars destroy all.
That's not the attitude I have, that's the attitude YOU have. Quit bashing the SRT-4 and stop smoking the dope, it'll affect your reproductive organs, ya know . Hmmm... Then again based on the content of some of your posts, perhaps it would be better if you didn't breed...
Old 06-22-2005 | 12:10 PM
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Old 06-22-2005 | 12:22 PM
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Wow this thread is a mess. Ya know, no matter what you drive, there is always something faster. Everyone should just drive the car they like and enjoy it. Arguing which is faster gets you nowhere.
Old 06-22-2005 | 01:33 PM
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lol, I agree this thread is crazy. Its like Im back in the SRTforums war stories forum!!

Anyways I don't like to boast about my srt4 but its when people like you codyss that just bug me when you post your opinion or experiences and believe because it happened with you thats the way it is everywhere. I give you props for pulling an srt4 with ur cobalt ss especially from a roll but don't say the cobalt is faster just because of your one experience.

I haven't run into an ss but I can't wait, but I do know TONS of people in kansas and other states that have. Every single story (both from srt drivers AND cobalt ss/sc drivers) started the story with the cobalt getting a jump andended it with the srt leading anywhere from half a car to 2 cars. Im not saying the srt is better but just telling you other peoples experiences. I'd think the cobalt ss/sc best advantage would be the start because of your instant power. I mean from a roll, don't say ur car dominates, we have no lag from a roll if the srt driver knows how to brake boost. I eagerly await an ss here in kansas. No matter the result I'll definetly respect another domestic 4 cylinder forced induction car.

Heck, what I paid for my car plus a couple thousand dollars is still cheaper then a cobalt ss and I totally rape camaro ss (lt1's) and hang with camaro ss(ls1's) Then again there are camaro ss's that can rape me also

I guess my final point is all cars are different so SHUTUP!!!!

Now just to support my forum and srt peeps "The SRT4 is teh pwnage!!!!!"

If there are any cobalt ss/sc in the kansas area come on down to topeka and hang out. It'd be sweet to get some of you guys down here with the srt club.

Jon

PS: I can't wait until you guys get the aftermarket support, I just hope you guys will be fortunate enough as we have. I know revitupmotorsports have posted up some exhaust vids on the srtforums, and It sounds killer.

edit: forgot to add, Nathan if your ever near Topeka or KC gimme a message, maybe we can meet up.

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Old 06-22-2005 | 01:52 PM
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Excuse my ignorance, but how fast are stock SRTs? I've owned an LT1 and LS1 vehicle so I understand that comparison.
Old 06-22-2005 | 02:02 PM
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My srt is slightly modded and I don't have too much experiences with a stock srt, but I know stock srts that have ran 13's to low 14's bone stock, stock tires. All depends on condition of track i guess. I believe one of the faster stock srt's on the forums ran a 13.68.

I know a guy who has kept up/slightly pulled an lt1 but when stock the ls1 pretty much owns. Its just the fact that the srt4 responds damn well to mods.

My mods: AGP WGA, Stg 1 PCM, borla catback exhaust, turboxs mbc, swaybars, throttlebody, kn cai, prothane motor mount inserts, msd ignition wires, and a mopar bov/noisemaker lol. All that for a 1500 - 2000 dollars is pretty sweet, and as stated above I've graduated to keeping up/sligtly pulling ls1's now. Don't get me wrong ls1's are badass and a slightly modded one would probably walk me, but i haven't run into one yet.
Old 06-22-2005 | 02:08 PM
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13s bone stock is impressive. That is LS1 territory. Of corurse driver/weather/condition/track ect.. all factor in.
Old 06-22-2005 | 02:49 PM
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I ran a best of 13.76 stock. With $300 in drag radials & wheels + about $5 in mods (carb spring attached to the Waste Gate Actuator & a Bleed hole on the WGA line) I ran a 13.53.

My best w/ the current mods is 13.3 w/ the slicks rubbing the strutts from about the 1/8 mile on.
Old 06-22-2005 | 02:50 PM
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yea, id bow down to the skills of that driver lol. Launching a powerful fwd car isn't the easiest thing to do heh.

I was just reading some of codyss's posts more carefully and you think a 1999 mustang gt run similar times stock vs. stock as an srt4?? WHAT??? maybe the 2003 2004 generation and ofcourse the new ones but correct me if Im wrong, I've heard the 1999 generations COBRA's are just as fast as the 2003-2004 gen. GT's stock vs. stock. So wouldn't the 1999 GT be even slower?? Idunno maybe I heard or read wrong from somewhere but I thought that generation was slower then the 2003 generation.
Old 06-22-2005 | 03:06 PM
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The 99-04 Mustang GTs are rated at 260 HP. They also weigh about 3500 pounds.
The Cobras were rated to around 320 untill the big change in 03. Then I think they had 385 HP.
Old 06-22-2005 | 03:07 PM
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stock, mine ran 14.0@100mph at about 3500ft above sealevel my first time out ever in the SRT, then it rained out, so i never got another run in. and then i modded it
now that im modded i have been running 13.7s but some of the guys here are at 13.3/13.4 with the same mods as me on STOCK tires.....(so as you can see i need to launch the car better.....but its hard with 317wtq...lol)
Old 06-22-2005 | 10:10 PM
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Old 08-12-2005 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
I know what a SRT-4 running that kind of boost is capable of, but I still smoked him in my Camaro SS.

And yes people are racing SRT-4's we aren't stupid.

If you drive a SRT-4 and beat a Cobalt SS especially from a roll you are either

1) Flat out lying about the race

2) Racing a SS/SC with 200 miles on it

3) Racing against someone who has no driving skills what so ever

Period

Are you on crack? Lol. The SRT-4 runs a 13.5 in the quarter mile *STOCK* with a good driver. You obviously raced someone that had NO clue what they were doing with their SRT...

The SRT-4 is much quicker than the Cobalt SS, no offense. However, I love the appearance of the Cobalt SS over my SRT-4...especially the interior
Old 08-12-2005 | 05:23 PM
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^^^

SRT4 is quicker in a straight line stock

throw in a curve, and guess who wins
Old 08-12-2005 | 05:28 PM
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Are you on crack? Lol. The SRT-4 runs a 13.5 in the quarter mile *STOCK* with a good driver. You obviously raced someone that had NO clue what they were doing with their SRT...

The SRT-4 is much quicker than the Cobalt SS, no offense. However, I love the appearance of the Cobalt SS over my SRT-4...especially the interior
Well there's no doubt that the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C, but they sure as hell don't run 13.5's stock. The best I've ever seen or read of was 13.8, and thats with an excellent driver. They are not even close to a full second faster than the SS S/C, half a second at most.

Its a drivers race against a 260HP Mustang GT, and they run 13.8-14.0. The times your talking about are what the new 300HP Mustangs run, and thats not even a race against a stock SRT-4.

As I said, we know the SRT-4 is slighty faster than the SS, but lets not blow things out of proportion
Old 08-12-2005 | 05:35 PM
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Like what has been said before CodySS is all talk and no walk. I don't no what world he lives in. He lives in Nebraska, so maybe the rows of corn are getting to him? Like I said in another thread, I raced an SRT4 ACR from a 20mph roll and he pulled just short of a car length on me and I can drive the hell out of my SS. I have never seen this guy post any times from the track, which is the true gauge of what you can do in the quarter, obviously! The best I have heard of an SS doing is a 14.4. The best I have done in a non-LSD SS is a 14.707. These numbers would be average at best for a person that can drive an SRT4! I never bought my SS with clouded fanboi judgement, I bought mainly for the style and the possible aftermarket future for the SS's and RL's. CodySS, wake up and stop being an arragont A$$! Your making SS owners that live in the real world look bad!
Old 08-12-2005 | 05:57 PM
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Well there's no doubt that the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C, but they sure as hell don't run 13.5's stock. The best I've ever seen or read of was 13.8, and thats with an excellent driver. They are not even close to a full second faster than the SS S/C, half a second at most.
Yep, I've never heard of one running 13.5 stock... but I did run mine to a 13.53 w/ just a couple of cheap parts (a Vacuum T and carberator spring to be precise) from Autozone and a set of Drag Radials (2.001 60' )

My best stock time was a 13.76, my average stock time was a high 13.8 (most were 13.8's and 13.9's).

Now on street tires at street boost I could totally flub the launch and probably still run a 13.9 (@115mph )
Old 08-12-2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wesmanw02
Well there's no doubt that the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C, but they sure as hell don't run 13.5's stock. The best I've ever seen or read of was 13.8, and thats with an excellent driver. They are not even close to a full second faster than the SS S/C, half a second at most.

Its a drivers race against a 260HP Mustang GT, and they run 13.8-14.0. The times your talking about are what the new 300HP Mustangs run, and thats not even a race against a stock SRT-4.

As I said, we know the SRT-4 is slighty faster than the SS, but lets not blow things out of proportion

Yeah, that's true. I guess I can't really judge with a stock SRT4 though. I have one, but I bought mine already modded. So when I run different cars, things are a little different ...
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A couple members here will chime in after I post but oh well.

Two of my good friends have SRT-4's. One is 100% stock to the filter and the other only has some kind of " Ricer " intake on it. When my car was showroom fresh and when I was driving nicely it was a even match stop light to stop light and in the 1/4. The only time I couldn't hang was when we would mess around from a high MPH roll then they could usually put a fender on me. Now with 2000+ miles my high end is way better and the SRT-4's see tail lights. Stop light races are still pretty even but even in my Camaro SS my SS/SC will hang light to light.
Not sure what year your Camaro is, but I think it needs a tune up if you hang in the Cobalt. Aren't SS Camaro's mid to high 13 second cars?
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YA ok guys u claim Cody SS is bullshitting lets see all this proof of you running 13.5 in the 1/4 haha. Hes right also i have never had an srt4 beat me by more than a bumper. With best possible drivers an srt will get a 13.8 i have never seen one run faster than 14.3 but i can see where it can be a little faster but with what the neon srt4 has over the SS is shattered in looks cause nothing is uglier than the srt4, and if you dont like us dissing your srt4 then get the **** off our forums. Why dont you guys go back to srtforums and talk about all the ferrari's you smoked. LOL



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