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Old 12-09-2006, 10:36 PM
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Traction!! Cobalt v. SRT4

First of all this isnt a war story.
Just think about how alot of people complain about there traction and how bad it is when most of the time there are is under 250whp. How the hell can an SRT4 with stg 3 at like 350whp have pretty decent traction. What do they have that the cobalt doesn't. besides obviously the tires what else? Does buying wider rims make that much of a differece either?
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Originally Posted by 06CobaltSSS
First of all this isnt a war story.
Just think about how alot of people complain about there traction and how bad it is when most of the time there are is under 250whp. How the hell can an SRT4 with stg 3 at like 350whp have pretty decent traction. What do they have that the cobalt doesn't. besides obviously the tires what else? Does buying wider rims make that much of a differece either?
SRT-4 = Lag off the line = traction FTW after hitting power band.

SS = no traction instant boost and wheel hopping goodness all the way to middle of 2nd. woo hoo!
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Originally Posted by 06CobaltSSS
First of all this isnt a war story.
Just think about how alot of people complain about there traction and how bad it is when most of the time there are is under 250whp. How the hell can an SRT4 with stg 3 at like 350whp have pretty decent traction. What do they have that the cobalt doesn't. besides obviously the tires what else? Does buying wider rims make that much of a differece either?
That's the big difference between the Supercharger and the Turbocharger... a Stage 3 SRT-4 isn't going to be making INSTANT BOOST/Torque like we are. Our torque is what makes our cars so traction limited (among other things).
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^^^That is unless you have HPT, then you can limit the boost in first.
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Originally Posted by 05BlackCobaltSS
^^^That is unless you have HPT, then you can limit the boost in first.
Yes, a product inwhich I both want and need!
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ha i know a couple srt-4s with plenty of traction problems
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What is the gearing like on a SRT-4 compared to the SSSC.

Our 1st gear is so short.
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I had an srt-4 and everyone i know had traction problems... basically we feather the clutch(AKA Burn the clutch alittle) at the line and then when you feel traction... dump the clutch the rest of the way
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HP tuner works.I have first set up at 60% then all hell breaks lose in second.I think I need to drop it some more,I still get a little wheel hop at about 5k. I am trying not to burn up my clutch yet. I will let you guys know what % works the best.
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Originally Posted by sjcobaltss
HP tuner works.I have first set up at 60% then all hell breaks lose in second.I think I need to drop it some more,I still get a little wheel hop at about 5k. I am trying not to burn up my clutch yet. I will let you guys know what % works the best.
Are you the guy that stage 6 tuned stock and got 260 hp?
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Originally Posted by Floridas Finest SS
Are you the guy that stage 6 tuned stock and got 260 hp?
Yes that be me.
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^^wow, i might have to come down to you sometime and have your buddies tune my car! assuming yours doesnt blow up in the next year.

wow much did he charge you? i see all the prices, but which one?
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I put my boost in first to 50%. It is nice to not do a burn out all the time. I need to raise the boost to 100% after 5k Rpm's. It does help alot to limit the boost in first.
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Originally Posted by campo165
^^wow, i might have to come down to you sometime and have your buddies tune my car! assuming yours doesnt blow up in the next year.
E-mail Torrie (link above) He can tune anything. We are getting ready to start playing with pulleys and injectors next week.
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I think 50% would work better, I will have it changed next time I am at the dyno.
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Originally Posted by campo165
^^wow, i might have to come down to you sometime and have your buddies tune my car! assuming yours doesnt blow up in the next year.

wow much did he charge you? i see all the prices, but which one?
The Flash and one Hour dyno time $250.00.
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Originally Posted by sjcobaltss
The Flash and one Hour dyno time $250.00.
I actually plan to get my tuned, the guy on this site Drailss has got his tuned there and made 280 and they say they plan to get 310ish so hopefully i'll be seeing somewhere along those numbers, especially since i have more mods than him.
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Damn, that HP Tuners thing sounds sick as hell.
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so getting a 2.8 with 60 lbers and you think you can press the 310 whp mark?
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Originally Posted by campo165
so getting a 2.8 with 60 lbers and you think you can press the 310 whp mark?
i doubt he can. i would suggest going to another dyno and seeing if the numbers are compareable because 260 stock probobly isnt right. there are things they can do to the dyno to inflate the numbers..
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ok so this guy dynoed 260 with a tune on a stock setup, sweet. got any track times
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Originally Posted by BaltM62
i doubt he can. i would suggest going to another dyno and seeing if the numbers are compareable because 260 stock probobly isnt right. there are things they can do to the dyno to inflate the numbers..
The next time I dyno it I will make sure its on the other dyno, besides he had two other cobalts on the dyno before and after me. One had a stage 2 made 278whp and stock with 3" exhaust and CAI and made 237whp.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
ok so this guy dynoed 260 with a tune on a stock setup, sweet. got any track times
As soon as Christmas is over I will take it to the track to get numbers.
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hah whats traction? mines just at 300 a lil over...and if i am in 2nd gear and just hit the gas and the tires just break loose...hell i even spin slicks at the track..
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Originally Posted by 300whpSRT4
hah whats traction? mines just at 300 a lil over...and if i am in 2nd gear and just hit the gas and the tires just break loose...hell i even spin slicks at the track..
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