UAW is now on strike
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they have a specific job to do and thats the only job they have do to.. they are not building a whole car.. they are doing a small section they should be an expert at.. im sorry.. but with that "many" experts in plant.. cars should be better.. seems those little gooks have it right...
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**** the UAW and it's workers. Make all plants robotic. We'll have better quality of cars from a robot then an american.
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I hope the workers stay on strike for how ever long it takes GM to keep health/dental care.
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your a dipshit.. they have a specific job to do and thats the only job they have do to.. they are not building a whole car.. they are doing a small section they should be an expert at.. im sorry.. but with that "many" experts in plant.. cars should be better.. seems those little gooks have it right...
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they have a specific job to do and thats the only job they have do to.. they are not building a whole car.. they are doing a small section they should be an expert at.. im sorry.. but with that "many" experts in plant.. cars should be better.. seems those little gooks have it right...
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While i busted my ass through college i worked 12 hour shifts on the weekend in a warehouse. I know all about hard work but there's a fine line between fair compensation and being greedy *****.
**** the UAW and it's workers. Make all plants robotic. We'll have better quality of cars from a robot then an american.
**** the UAW and it's workers. Make all plants robotic. We'll have better quality of cars from a robot then an american.
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one thing for sure is, if GM gets rid of their health care plans all together, I'll be trading in my car and buy a mustang or a charger and ban myself from ever buying another chevy
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Proponents often credit trade unions with leading the labor movement in the early 20th century, which generally sought to end child labor practices, improve worker safety, increase wages for both union and non-union workers, raise the entire society's standard of living, reduce the hours in a work week, provide public education for children, and bring a host of other benefits to working class families.
In the United States, the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1928 established a national minimum wage, guaranteed time and a half for overtime in certain jobs, and prohibited most employment of minors in "oppressive child labor," a term defined in the statute.
The transformation of labor law put into motion by unions is today considered particularly important for groups that are most likely to suffer discrimination in the labor market. On average, women in Britain earn 20% less than men for the same work, but women who are union members earn 24% more than those who are not. [1] In the People's Republic of China, where independent trade unions are illegal, the pay gap between men and women has actually increased in recent years despite the booming economy. [2]
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In the United States, the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1928 established a national minimum wage, guaranteed time and a half for overtime in certain jobs, and prohibited most employment of minors in "oppressive child labor," a term defined in the statute.
The transformation of labor law put into motion by unions is today considered particularly important for groups that are most likely to suffer discrimination in the labor market. On average, women in Britain earn 20% less than men for the same work, but women who are union members earn 24% more than those who are not. [1] In the People's Republic of China, where independent trade unions are illegal, the pay gap between men and women has actually increased in recent years despite the booming economy. [2]
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Am I understanding correctly that you believe fair compensation includes discontinuation of health insurance but does justify multimillion dollar salaries for executives?
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its not our job to support you, thats why school is there.. go to it.. i have known quite a few plant workers and they dont do ****.. they just want more money and other **** for what? because they want it... i know plant guys making well over 50/hr to do the dumbest **** and all of it is from the unions.. 50/hr for plant work.. bullshit buddy.. i would not pay more then 15/hr for a plant worker..thats more then enough for the "skill" required
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Protip - before calling someone a dipshit, be sure your post doesn't look like a 13 year old wrote it.
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its not our job to support you, thats why school is there.. go to it.. i have known quite a few plant workers and they dont do ****.. they just want more money and other **** for what? because they want it... i know plant guys making well over 50/hr to do the dumbest **** and all of it is from the unions.. 50/hr for plant work.. bullshit buddy.. i would not pay more then 15/hr for a plant worker..thats more then enough for the "skill" required
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its not our job to support you, thats why school is there.. go to it.. i have known quite a few plant workers and they dont do ****.. they just want more money and other **** for what? because they want it... i know plant guys making well over 50/hr to do the dumbest **** and all of it is from the unions.. 50/hr for plant work.. bullshit buddy.. i would not pay more then 15/hr for a plant worker..thats more then enough for the "skill" required
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no because they are getting rid of health care. before you open your mouths, know the story. there are alot of hard working people out at GM. my father is tool and die, and work 12 hour days 6 days a week. yes the money is nice, but there are hard working people. just because they make more than you, and you think because you get paid minimum wage you work harder... your wrong. you can argue the points I've made all you want. but bottom line is there are people that bust there asses to make the cars YOU take for granted.
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i'd like to see you build 3 cars every minute and make them all perfect, with no flaws.
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i'd like to see you build 3 cars every minute and make them all perfect, with no flaws.
GM has it screwed up, so does the union. Who pays for it? You and me when we pay for our cars. And then the label says, "hecho en Mexico".
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They are not getting rid of Health Care, only asking workers to pay for more of it. Lets see, yes,... I think I have had my health care go up about 4 times in the last 10 years. Its about time GM employees pay more of their share for the awesome care they get. I know too, my Dad worked 30 years in the Janesville plant where tahoes are built. Our health care was probably better than what most other people in the city had, working at other jobs. (based on cost) Hard working..... my Dad used to sleep in a cardboard box during work. I also worked during "deer hunting season" as a temp. I swear every 4th or 5th guy on the line had an open bottle of Jack Daniels on his work bench. And we never built 3 cars a minute, maybe pone every 4 minutes. My job was to install the alternator on the motors. Pretty easy when it is totally set up for you. Granted, there were some jobs that totally sucked. I used to read a 400 page novel every night I worked there on one other job I had. Not many people bust ass on those jobs. Maybe once in a while when stuff got screwed up and the "big shots" showed up on the scene. Maybe for about 30 minutes. Then, it was back to reading, playing cards, whatever. The unions serve a purpose, but it is way over-board these days. Why do GM employees cost GM an average of about $75.00 per hour with benefits included when other car companies pay about $45.00 with benefits?
GM has it screwed up, so does the union. Who pays for it? You and me when we pay for our cars. And then the label says, "hecho en Mexico".
GM has it screwed up, so does the union. Who pays for it? You and me when we pay for our cars. And then the label says, "hecho en Mexico".
**** you ass hole. i'm 25 and live on my own. I work 1 full time job as a cad and web designer, one part time job, and go to school. lick my nuts
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its not our job to support you, thats why school is there.. go to it.. i have known quite a few plant workers and they dont do ****.. they just want more money and other **** for what? because they want it... i know plant guys making well over 50/hr to do the dumbest **** and all of it is from the unions.. 50/hr for plant work.. bullshit buddy.. i would not pay more then 15/hr for a plant worker..thats more then enough for the "skill" required
**** two weeks ago GM layed off thousands in Canada and they make half the American wage, and GM did this to try and save jobs in the states
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Combined before taxes they bring down a hefty sum of 76,800 dollars/year. That's 1600 dollars a week before being taxed. Now you're trying to tell me that they can't afford to pay a doctor's visit making that much money?
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yeah your right, they are not taking them away but instead there are NO payed doctor visits, NO payed emergency room visits, only major medical.
**** you ass hole. i'm 25 live on my own, work 1 full time job as a cad and web designer, one part time job, and go to school. lick my nuts
**** you ass hole. i'm 25 live on my own, work 1 full time job as a cad and web designer, one part time job, and go to school. lick my nuts
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Both your parents work there right? Now i'm not sure how much they make but let's say they both make 20/hr and put in 40 hours a week.
Combined before taxes they bring down a hefty sum of 76,800 dollars/year. That's 1600 dollars a week before being taxed. Now you're trying to tell me that they can't afford to pay a doctor's visit making that much money?
Combined before taxes they bring down a hefty sum of 76,800 dollars/year. That's 1600 dollars a week before being taxed. Now you're trying to tell me that they can't afford to pay a doctor's visit making that much money?