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Old 03-15-2009 | 10:34 PM
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How to upgrade the stock Pioneer sub to sound awesome and look stock. (With Pics)

This is a basic guide to upgrading your stock pioneer sub to something with a lot more thump while still maintaining balanced sound and a stock appearance.

Some things you need.
Screwdriver Set
A ratchet with an extension and 8mm, 10,mm, and 15mm sockets
A wire stripper and crimper
A rotary cutting tool such as a dremel
Caulk to seal the sub
A low profile replacement subwoofer
A 2 channel bridgeable amp
A subwoofer wiring kit and some half inch ring terminals. I used a 680 watt kit from walmart that came with 8 gauge cables and cost less than $30.

The first thing you need to do is remove the stock sub from the car. You need a 10mm deepwell socket and an extension to remove the four bolts that hold the sub in the car. I purchased a salvaged pioneer sub off of ebay for $30 so that I have the option of easily bolting the stock sub back in if I ever sell the car.

For starters here is the stock sub before modification.


I upgraded my setup with a pioneer TS-SW2541D ($80) and a GM-5300T amp ($110). I chose this setup because the sub fit in the stock enclosure and was perfect for the cubic feet of space it had. The amp is inexpensive and has plenty of power (380 watts RMS) and matches the subwoofers capabilities perfectly.

First you need to remove the stock sub from it's enclosure. Take out the bolt on center of the back side first with a 8mm socket and then remove all the screws from the front of the sub. You just need to gently pry along the edges and the sub should pop out of it's enclosure. Clip the wires and set it aside. Remove the stock wiring harness and set it aside also.



You will notice that the new sub is a little too big to fit in the enclosure. We will need to modify the enclosure and sub a bit to fit it properly.

First you need to break out your dremel and cutoff tool and cut the inner ring out of the sock sub box. What? You don't have a dremel? Well go get one!




Now on to the subwoofer. Remove the rubber cover from the rim and also flip the sub over and put tape over ALL of the vents and holes. We will be doing some sanding and drilling and we don't want any shavings to get into the speaker and damage it.

First you need to take a sander, preferably a belt sander and sand the outside rim of the new sub until it is small enough to fit into the modified stock enclosure you have. Just keep sanding and test fitting until you are able to get the sub to drop into place. after you have gotten the sub to fit nicely you will notice that there are eight holes on the stock enclosure and only six on the sub. Take the stock grill and use that as a template to drill the extra needed holes. Two of the holes will line up properly already so put two screws through them so that the grill will not shift while drilling the rest. Set the subwoofer somewhere safe where you can drill the holes without damaging anything underneath and carefully drill the remaining six holes.

If you have done this properly you will now be able to line up all your holes in the grill, sub and enclosure.



Once you are satisfied with the fit of the sub then you can pull it back out and set it aside. You can also take the tape off the back once you clean off all the metal shavings.

Feed some speaker into the enclosure and strip the ends of the cable. I used 5 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire which fit tightly through the hole where the stock wiring came out. Find a bolt and a nut and use them to seal the hole in the bottom of the enclosure. I used a half inch thick bolt and a couple washers to ensure it sealed.


Now you need to caulk around the entire mounting area of the enclosure. Lay a nice thick bead right across the holes, hook up the speaker wires, and then gently ease the sub onto the caulk.

Now put the stock grille onto the sub and put the six screws that came with your subwoofer in and use the stock screws for the remaining two. You should use the longer screws that came with the sub as the stock screws are too short to hold well enough on their own. The caulk will come out of the holes and edges a bit and you can wipe this off once the screws are tight. You should also caulk the hole where the speaker wire comes out of the enclosure. This caulk is essential because the sub will leak and sound terrible if you don't seal it properly.

Here is the completed subwoofer.


The last thing you need to do is make an adapter cable for hooking your stock sub output to the high level input of the amp. Just follow the wiring diagram for the amp and hook the positive and negative for the left and right up to their counterparts on the stock connector you took out of the box. Don't worry about what is left or right, just make sure positive and negative are correct for each pair. I used 16 gauge speaker wire and end to end crimp connectors to make a five foot cable. I put the wires in a flex tube and taped it's entire length with black electrical tape.




Install Phase

Mount the amplifier to the back of the drivers side rear seat as low as possible to minimize the amount of cable you will see. Take the carpet out of your trunk and run your positive power cable along the main battery cable all the way to where your amp is mounted. I used zip ties to secure the cable. Remove the fuse from the power cable and then hook the cable up to the battery. The positive cable comes with a ring connector so all you need is a nut to go onto the provided stud. For the ground cable I crimped on the half inch ring terminal onto the ground cable and out it under the bolt that is right next to the amp. You need a 15mm socket to remove this bolt. Now just trim the positive and ground cables to the proper length leaving enough slack so that the seat folds down properly and crimp the nice terminal connectors that were provided with your kit onto the cables.


Here is the completed power wiring.


Mount your subwoofer into place and route the speaker wire and high level cable behind the trunk lining to the amplifier and connect them. You want to bridge the amp so hook the speaker wires to the outer connectors on each side.


Now you need to run the remote wire up front to the fuse box. I ran it along the drivers side since there were plenty of places to ziptie the wire out of the way under the dashboard. Run the remote wire to the fuse box which is on the passenger side of the center console. To remove the cover simply grab the bottom and tug firmly.


Strip one inch off of the end of the remote cable. Take the fuse for the power windows out and insert it half way into one side of the fuse.

Now carefully put the fuse back in place and it should pull the wire into the socket and make a very secure connection.


The reason for using the power window fuse is simple. It only turns on when the key is turned on and it will continue to power when you take the key out but don't open the door (which would shut off the stereo and power windows and your amp). It also remains off when you remote start your car so you won't have your amp needlessly running.

Here is the completed system.



I set the gain on the amp to a little less then half. I run my headunit with the treble and bass maxed and the system sounds fantastic. It can rumble and shake when there is music with lots of bass and it is balanced and not too boomy when it is not supposed to be. The bass scales perfectly with volume. If you setup the system the way I have you can use the head units bass control to vary your bass down for when your passengers don't share the love of bass you do. There shouldn't be any problems with the sub hitting the stock grill unless you are playing techmaster *techno bass cd* at high volume levels. If you want to add that little bit of extra clearance for the woofer then add washers to the screws that hold the grill.

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Old 04-22-2009 | 10:00 PM
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nice
Old 04-23-2009 | 08:10 AM
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very nice write up
im gonna try this soon
Old 04-23-2009 | 08:21 AM
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nice clean job !!! looks great !
Old 04-29-2009 | 12:21 AM
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wait, so can you do this with the stock headunit?
Old 04-29-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Nice install.

Do you really have a gas can in your trunk? Please tell me it's not filled...
Old 04-29-2009 | 12:56 PM
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any idea how it would sound with the stock amp??? i dont exactly want to put the holes in the car
Old 04-29-2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Nice install.

Do you really have a gas can in your trunk? Please tell me it's not filled...
Thanks! I haven't used that gas can. Just there for emergencies, heh.

Originally Posted by campo165
wait, so can you do this with the stock headunit?
Yes you can. I love my stock 6 Disc MP3 changer! It is easy to install and sounds great. The amp I picked has a hi-level input that allows you to hook it directly to the car.

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nice clean job !!! looks great !
Thanks! I wanted it to look clean as the stock sub already is.

Originally Posted by dunit121
any idea how it would sound with the stock amp??? i don't exactly want to put the holes in the car
I am not sure how it would sound with the stock amp. I could hook it up and find out sometime here but I am sure it would be quiet and not sound all that great. Before I came up with this I considered a direct replacement with an infinity 2 ohm dual voice coil sub that was lower wattage but even then the stock sub is really low wattage.

What holes are you talking about by the way? The holes from screwing the amp to the seat? Those can't be seen unless you are looking for them after removing the amp. I wanted this setup to be easily returned to stock and leave no permanent changes. Do it my way and you can return to stock anytime.

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Old 05-05-2009 | 08:38 PM
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Whats the loudest 10" sub i can get away with, doing this exact same thing, except not putting an amp in
Old 05-05-2009 | 08:53 PM
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Wow not joking Ive did the exact same thing last year when I upgraded mine. Same sub, similar method of installing. Couple things I did diff was mounted the amp to the underside of the rear shelf so its outta the way, and use a 300W Pioneer amp instead of the 760W you used, and I put white insulation inside the enclosure to help with the sound quality. Im very happy with it. Good write up
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Originally Posted by 08G5GT2.4L
Wow not joking Ive did the exact same thing last year when I upgraded mine. Same sub, similar method of installing. Couple things I did diff was mounted the amp to the underside of the rear shelf so its outta the way, and use a 300W Pioneer amp instead of the 760W you used, and I put white insulation inside the enclosure to help with the sound quality. Im very happy with it. Good write up
Thanks for the compliments!

I thought about mounting the amp under the rear deck but it was just too large to easily mount up there. The back of the seat was super easy and still looks good. The amp choice was for a couple reasons. It was the cheapest amp I could find with a hi level input ($110 at walmart) and the 380 watt RMS matched well with the subs 350 watt nominal power rating while not exceeding the 1000w max. I have found that the enclosure hasn't had any problems thus far and I don't even have any new rattles with the upgraded sub.

I would love to see a pic of your amp for reference for an alternate amp location.
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this is awesome! i wonder how much of a difference mine would go from my alpine type-s 12" to an alpine type-s 10" in this enclosure with my 300watt rms amp.
Old 05-08-2009 | 10:06 AM
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You know, I was just looking in to this the other day. Thanks
Old 05-12-2009 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by streetracinazian
this is awesome! i wonder how much of a difference mine would go from my alpine type-s 12" to an alpine type-s 10" in this enclosure with my 300watt rms amp.
This setup was plenty loud for me and I cant imagine needing anything more. It sounds really good, not just loud. I would put washers behind the grill if you want maximum excursion without the sub hitting the grill. It is way better than stock.
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i have been thinking about this cuz a full system will weigh tooooooo much. nice write up. better then the other one that was posted forever ago on here.
props dude!!!

also, can you possibly add a price list? it would be ver helpfull

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Old 06-16-2009 | 10:55 PM
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Looks Good .. Similar Setup, I Went JL

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^^^^ nice job i like.
Old 06-26-2009 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dromano89
Looks Good .. Similar Setup, I Went JL
Nice work man!

I would be a little nervous about loading things into my trunk with out a grille. heh
Old 06-26-2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dromano89
Looks Good .. Similar Setup, I Went JL

wow that looks amazing dude. i just wanna trade cars. lol.
what all did you have to do to the box and all to get that to work?
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gut it out..build it out and seal it .. it wasnt that bad
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Good write up. Ive considered it but honestly if I cant run off the stock amp then I will end up just running 2 digital designs 8 inch subs at 400w each. Should be sufficient.

Though does anyone know the power level of the stock sub and what ohm it runs at?
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The stock sub is only rated for 100 Watts RMS. Its a DVC sub with two 2 Ohm coils (Can be wired to become either 1 ohm, 2 ohms or 4 ohms depending on how you wire it).

I personally have mine wired in series to make the sub 4 Ohms for my amp since I have it on bridged output.

It's not alot of power out of the stock sub... but its still enough to make my mirror difficult to see out of with certain music ("Put on" being a good example).
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Can the stock amp be wired for a lower ohm level?

And there must be some variances in the systems. I have an 08 sport and my family has an 08 sport. Both optioned identical yet my families cobalt hits noticeably harder.
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Originally Posted by dromano89
Looks Good .. Similar Setup, I Went JL

And that JL is still a 10? How does it sound? I'm curious because I want the trunk space so I dont want to put my box back in when I get home, I may just go with your setup. I run JL as well but 2 12s. What model is that one too?
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it looks like a 10". I believe that a 12 would require the stock bezel to be removed entirely.



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