INTENSE Stage 4 HELP!
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INTENSE Stage 4 HELP!
Alright I finally got the INTENSE Stage 4 w/2.5" pulley !! I bought a Fujita CAI filter to make my Air-Box Mod and I got a Scan Gauge. Well I definately noticed an increasae in power! My boost went from 10-psi to 16.2-psi. I had to take out my CAI (kept throwing P0171-lean code). Unfortunatly I never got a base run but I currently run 272-HP and ???-TQ but thats at the crank.....so with 13% drivetrain loss I'm seeing about 237. IS THIS ACCURATE? Doesn't seem right to me. What are you all getting with similar set-ups? Or have I forgotten something? I see Knock (0 - 4.0 and seen as high as 6) depending on RPM & Gear & Speed. Is this safe.....I know what knock is but, I don't know what's safe.
Todd's been a great help w/ everything but I want to see if I'm the only one and want to see where you all are at.
SO with:
S-4 w/2.5" & CAI = 238-HP @ 17.3-PSI
S-4 w/2.5" = 237 @ 16.2-PSI
INTENSE States:
S-4 = 265-HP @ 17-PSI
Todd's been a great help w/ everything but I want to see if I'm the only one and want to see where you all are at.
SO with:
S-4 w/2.5" & CAI = 238-HP @ 17.3-PSI
S-4 w/2.5" = 237 @ 16.2-PSI
INTENSE States:
S-4 = 265-HP @ 17-PSI
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
Alright I finally got the INTENSE Stage 4 w/2.5" pulley !! I bought a Fujita CAI filter to make my Air-Box Mod and I got a Scan Gauge. Well I definately noticed an increasae in power! My boost went from 10-psi to 16.2-psi. I had to take out my CAI (kept throwing P0171-lean code). Unfortunatly I never got a base run but I currently run 272-HP and ???-TQ but thats at the crank.....so with 13% drivetrain loss I'm seeing about 237. IS THIS ACCURATE? Doesn't seem right to me. What are you all getting with similar set-ups? Or have I forgotten something? I see Knock (0 - 4.0 and seen as high as 6) depending on RPM & Gear & Speed. Is this safe.....I know what knock is but, I don't know what's safe.
Todd's been a great help w/ everything but I want to see if I'm the only one and want to see where you all are at.
SO with:
S-4 w/2.5" & CAI = 238-HP @ 17.3-PSI
S-4 w/2.5" = 237 @ 16.2-PSI
INTENSE States:
S-4 = 265-HP @ 17-PSI
Todd's been a great help w/ everything but I want to see if I'm the only one and want to see where you all are at.
SO with:
S-4 w/2.5" & CAI = 238-HP @ 17.3-PSI
S-4 w/2.5" = 237 @ 16.2-PSI
INTENSE States:
S-4 = 265-HP @ 17-PSI
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Similair numbers as 237-HP @ 16.2-PSI? What did he do? The only difference between Stage 4 and Stage 5 is the Ported s/c housing. PCM's are the same.
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
Similair numbers as 237-HP @ 16.2-PSI? What did he do? The only difference between Stage 4 and Stage 5 is the Ported s/c housing. PCM's are the same.
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There has to ba a reason why mine isn't at 260-270 as there website states. Now I read GM rates there drivetrain loss at 17%...so that makes me around 225hp. These numbers don't make sense. Shouldn't my crank read around 320-ish to see 265 hp? Little help INTENSE. e-mail sent
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Yeah your numbers seem low bro. I only have GM Stage 2 and a CAI and I put down 242whp. With a 17% drivetrain loss that would put me at 283 crank horsepower.
Stage 4 has to be more than that IMO!
Stage 4 has to be more than that IMO!
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Let me make sure I get this out....I'm using the scan gauge and friends hand held thingy we are getting the same numbers 272 hp.....but that's at the crank.....right? I know someone is going to slam me about reading numbers off a scan gauge so....go ahead and let me have it....be informative though
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Let me make sure I get this out....I'm using the scan gauge and friends hand held thingy we are getting the same numbers 272 hp.....but that's at the crank.....right? I know someone is going to slam me about reading numbers off a scan gauge so....go ahead and let me have it....be informative though
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THANKS, I knew about the CAI but I though I'd give it a try. I asked INTENSE to adjust for CAI but they said they couldn't and to go get a dino-tune. Also the scan gauge reads CRANK HP right??
And w/ 2.5" Pulley shouldn't I see 17-19 PSI? Why do I only see 16 PSI?
And w/ 2.5" Pulley shouldn't I see 17-19 PSI? Why do I only see 16 PSI?
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
THANKS, I knew about the CAI but I though I'd give it a try. I asked INTENSE to adjust for CAI but they said they couldn't and to go get a dino-tune. Also the scan gauge reads CRANK HP right??
And w/ 2.5" Pulley shouldn't I see 17-19 PSI? Why do I only see 16 PSI?
And w/ 2.5" Pulley shouldn't I see 17-19 PSI? Why do I only see 16 PSI?
As for the boost, are you getting any belt slip?
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THANKS, I knew about the CAI but I though I'd give it a try. I asked INTENSE to adjust for CAI but they said they couldn't and to go get a dino-tune. Also the scan gauge reads CRANK HP right??
And w/ 2.5" Pulley shouldn't I see 17-19 PSI? Why do I only see 16 PSI?
And w/ 2.5" Pulley shouldn't I see 17-19 PSI? Why do I only see 16 PSI?
And yes you should see around 17-19psi with a 2.5"
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I don't know how to find out......and if I did what can I do about that. I have the oversized tensioner pulley.
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I don't know how to find out......and if I did what can I do about that. I have the oversized tensioner pulley.
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Nope...no black dust. I e-mailed INTENSE and I told them I'm not an expert at this stuff.....I should have said I'm a fricken moron so please break it down for me. Maybe you all can break it down for me.
INTENSE wrote:
The scangauge can only read MAP for boost which pegs at 2 times atmospheric pressure so it may not be reading the higher numbers. Horsepower appears to be higher than our dynos have shown but that could be due to the algorithm the scanguage uses to calculate it or you may just have a superior car.
INTENSE wrote:
The scangauge can only read MAP for boost which pegs at 2 times atmospheric pressure so it may not be reading the higher numbers. Horsepower appears to be higher than our dynos have shown but that could be due to the algorithm the scanguage uses to calculate it or you may just have a superior car.
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Nope...no black dust. I e-mailed INTENSE and I told them I'm not an expert at this stuff.....I should have said I'm a fricken moron so please break it down for me. Maybe you all can break it down for me.
INTENSE wrote:
The scangauge can only read MAP for boost which pegs at 2 times atmospheric pressure so it may not be reading the higher numbers. Horsepower appears to be higher than our dynos have shown but that could be due to the algorithm the scanguage uses to calculate it or you may just have a superior car.
INTENSE wrote:
The scangauge can only read MAP for boost which pegs at 2 times atmospheric pressure so it may not be reading the higher numbers. Horsepower appears to be higher than our dynos have shown but that could be due to the algorithm the scanguage uses to calculate it or you may just have a superior car.
Maybe they misunderstood what you were saying.
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
Nope...no black dust. I e-mailed INTENSE and I told them I'm not an expert at this stuff.....I should have said I'm a fricken moron so please break it down for me. Maybe you all can break it down for me.
INTENSE wrote:
The scangauge can only read MAP for boost which pegs at 2 times atmospheric pressure so it may not be reading the higher numbers. Horsepower appears to be higher than our dynos have shown but that could be due to the algorithm the scanguage uses to calculate it or you may just have a superior car.
INTENSE wrote:
The scangauge can only read MAP for boost which pegs at 2 times atmospheric pressure so it may not be reading the higher numbers. Horsepower appears to be higher than our dynos have shown but that could be due to the algorithm the scanguage uses to calculate it or you may just have a superior car.