LSJ T6061 Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley

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Old 09-27-2007, 09:37 PM
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LSJ T6061 Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley

We're considering going into production with these units. Stock diameter, much lighter. Exact specifications to be posted shortly. We're just curious about the kind of demand there might be for such a product for the LSJ.

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If it was for an actual reasonable price I'm sure someone would buy it. Did I mention reasonable?
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I thought it would throw the netural shafts off? I thought having a light weight crank pulley would throw EVERYTHING OFF
Old 09-27-2007, 09:42 PM
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yeah i'd be interested..but u need better US vendors.....since you're just a distributer now.....or you need to tell CrateEngineDepot to feature your products on their site since they are a vendor.......Also, hows the 750hp build coming its been some time since an update on your site?........

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Not too sure on pricing yet, we'll hit up with more information. Just tyring to get a little bit more information about the demand. I figure there is a demand since there's nothing out there.

Having a lighter pulley, stock diam. isn't going to damage anything.
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Can I trade a busted set of Control Arm Bushings for the pulley? They were only on the car for 4 months before they broke.
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the crank pulley in the cobalt is not a harmonic balancer. If it were a harmonic balancer you'd have issues with swapping it out, but because it is not, there shouldnt be any problems.
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Interested as well...
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Can I trade a busted set of Control Arm Bushings for the pulley? They were only on the car for 4 months before they broke.
Nope! But you can swamp them in for warranty exchange.

Beck the crank pulley in the cobalt is not a harmonic balancer. If it were a harmonic balancer you'd have issues with swapping it out, but because it is not, there shouldnt be any problems.
Not entirely true. The crank pulley is a balancer on the LSJ. The crankshaft pulley we offer is balanced for the crankshaft. Therefore you can swap it out with our unit.
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Someone already has a crank pulley for sale. Its like wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced for like 400 or something ridiculous like that. Nice to see people are still using NX!!!
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id buy one but what well the gain be ?
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Originally Posted by lewisb13
Someone already has a crank pulley for sale. Its like wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced for like 400 or something ridiculous like that. Nice to see people are still using NX!!!
Thats probably the one for the L61. To my knowledge there isn't one for the LSJ.

id buy one but what well the gain be ?
The gain will be notice from the reduced inertia that the engine must overcome from a stand-still; This increases hole-shot performance. An exact gain at this time is speculative without a dyno test.
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Originally Posted by JBP
Thats probably the one for the L61. To my knowledge there isn't one for the LSJ.



The gain will be notice from the reduced inertia that the engine must overcome from a stand-still; This increases hole-shot performance. An exact gain at this time is speculative without a dyno test.
perhaps further testing should be done to gauge even better interest after numbers show an increase in gains using this product.
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Originally Posted by sneaky
perhaps further testing should be done to gauge even better interest after numbers show an increase in gains using this product.
True. The pulley will be extensively tested before release. With complete dynos and a trial test run on my SS/SC. Just trying to see what interest this drums up.
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well it whould make you rev faster hmm i might be interested.
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I'd Image it to help a lot... especially for these guys running really small pulleys. If there are some good gains out there... yeah... I'd be interested. BUT, it's like everyone said... if the price is right.

If it's like the GM one and costs $500+... I wouldn't see too many people buying one. Probably nobody actually! Haha...
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I would be interested for sure. After seeing how it worked on a test model will help me confirm for sure if it would be worth it or not. So really I think the following aspects would have to be touched.

1. Tested to make sure it is a safe reliable mod.
2. What kind of gains?
3. Price
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The crankshaft pulley from GM that CED offers will not fit a LSJ 2.0 SS/SC. It's for the LE5 and L61. And yes, very expensive.
Old 09-28-2007, 09:27 AM
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if its very inexpensive and makes good gains which idk how it would, maybe its a possibility, but not sure, and is probabaly also a pain in the ass times 782348293497 to change it
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Some info I found:

underdrive crank pulleys on average can provide gains of 5 to 12 HP and 4 to 8 lbs.-ft. on normally aspirated engines and 8 to 16 HP and 8 to 18 lbs.-ft. on forced induction engines. Higher gains are possible. For example, a Nissan 300ZX twin-turbo saw gains as high as 37 HP and 45 lbs.- ft. on the dyno just by replacing the stock crank pulley

Power gains are obtained in two ways. First, and most important, is the weight loss. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 85% of our gains are from weight loss.

The rest of the gains are from underdriving, which accounts for about 15% of the total gains. We do not push underdriving beyond 20% for two important reasons. The main reason is to keep charging systems, air conditioning, power steering, and water pumps moving fast enough for every day driving. Second, not much horsepower is gained from extreme underdriving. In most applications all of the underdriving is done with the crank pulley, not the accessory pulleys. This is done so maximum weight loss can be achieved at the crank where most of the horsepower gains are found.
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I've been crunching some numbers, we can make a run of these pulleys for a decent price. Just have to factor in material costs and we can come up with a MSRP price for our dealers soon. But yes, there's some decent gains to be had from this. Estimations around 7-9HP. Good mod for those who've done everything else....
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Originally Posted by JBP
I've been crunching some numbers, we can make a run of these pulleys for a decent price. Just have to factor in material costs and we can come up with a MSRP price for our dealers soon. But yes, there's some decent gains to be had from this. Estimations around 7-9HP. Good mod for those who've done everything else....
This is something that would be easy to change if your already doing a clutch/flywheel or axles. I wish it was out now I would buy it, this weekend I'm putting drive shop axles and clutch/flywheel in. Glad to get a 8-10whp gain from a pulley.
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Originally Posted by lsj06ecotec
yeah i'd be interested..but u need better US vendors.....since you're just a distributer now.....or you need to tell CrateEngineDepot to feature your products on their site since they are a vendor.......Also, hows the 750hp build coming its been some time since an update on your site?........
you can hit us up for all your JBP needs, we have already sold to a lot of american customers!

send us an email for info.

info@usdautosports.com
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