Midwest Ecotec: Discussion
03-04-2010 | 12:16 PM
#908
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From: Illinois
Breeeeembos and dem black wheels!
Lol... that was totally worth the 2 hr trip there.
So, quick opinion guys... which one do you think would work better?
This is the DAL (essentially, boost) table from a "tuned" LNF. As you can see, its simply made to spike, which is horrible on the compressor, and causes compressor surge. The spike also lets off very quick, settling at about 18 psi.
Or this, nice gradual climb to boost? There is no spike, and the boost holds at 21 psi until about 6k rpm, where the turbo simply runs out of breath.
I really am just wondering, since i don't know how to tune. Maybe Zach can chime in about this, since he knows oh so much about tuning the LNF. Or, maybe even Sean, since he knows where the LNF VE tables are.
I mean, really. Stock MAF tables when you're customer is running an intake? Stock timing tables, and torque tables that are just turned to 100%...? No wonder people instantly fall in love with your tunes Zach, its because you make the butt dyno feel good, but you don't know how to tune an LNF. Please, stick to your LSJ's and tell your boy friend to quit bustin my chops about supposedly "not knowing how to tune".
Oh, Zach, you also might want to tell your buddy that you already pussed out of a small challenge I had proposed. But, he proposed it again to me... You bring a car you tuned, I will bring a car I tuned. We put them on the dyno, and loser pays dyno fees and $100 to the winner, and the loser shuts up.
Zach, I really am sorry your friend put you in this situation. Maybe you should quit hanging out with the rich, overpriveleged kids (which he says I hang out with LOL), and get some down to earth friends. I understand him trying to protect you, but tell him to get his facts straight before he makes of fool of both of you.
And, to keep accusing my friends of attacking you and your tunes is just laughable. When they stick up for their friends that you screwed over, left hanging at the dyno like a fool, don't you think that they have a right to bash you then? Your customer service sucks, if you couldn't tell.
Oh, and Sean, would you mind pointing out the VE tables in HPT for me, for the LNF? I think I have overlooked them somewhere.
I am done with you Sean. Anything else can be settled out of the thread. If you want to keep bashing my tuning, and me personally, at least get your facts straight.
Lol... that was totally worth the 2 hr trip there.
So, quick opinion guys... which one do you think would work better?
This is the DAL (essentially, boost) table from a "tuned" LNF. As you can see, its simply made to spike, which is horrible on the compressor, and causes compressor surge. The spike also lets off very quick, settling at about 18 psi.
Or this, nice gradual climb to boost? There is no spike, and the boost holds at 21 psi until about 6k rpm, where the turbo simply runs out of breath.
I really am just wondering, since i don't know how to tune. Maybe Zach can chime in about this, since he knows oh so much about tuning the LNF. Or, maybe even Sean, since he knows where the LNF VE tables are.
I mean, really. Stock MAF tables when you're customer is running an intake? Stock timing tables, and torque tables that are just turned to 100%...? No wonder people instantly fall in love with your tunes Zach, its because you make the butt dyno feel good, but you don't know how to tune an LNF. Please, stick to your LSJ's and tell your boy friend to quit bustin my chops about supposedly "not knowing how to tune".
Oh, Zach, you also might want to tell your buddy that you already pussed out of a small challenge I had proposed. But, he proposed it again to me... You bring a car you tuned, I will bring a car I tuned. We put them on the dyno, and loser pays dyno fees and $100 to the winner, and the loser shuts up.
Zach, I really am sorry your friend put you in this situation. Maybe you should quit hanging out with the rich, overpriveleged kids (which he says I hang out with LOL), and get some down to earth friends. I understand him trying to protect you, but tell him to get his facts straight before he makes of fool of both of you.
And, to keep accusing my friends of attacking you and your tunes is just laughable. When they stick up for their friends that you screwed over, left hanging at the dyno like a fool, don't you think that they have a right to bash you then? Your customer service sucks, if you couldn't tell.
Oh, and Sean, would you mind pointing out the VE tables in HPT for me, for the LNF? I think I have overlooked them somewhere.
I am done with you Sean. Anything else can be settled out of the thread. If you want to keep bashing my tuning, and me personally, at least get your facts straight.
Last edited by mkriebs; 03-04-2010 at 12:16 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
03-04-2010 | 12:39 PM
#910
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Joined: 01-11-09
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From: Chicagooooo
Like WHOA!!!
I remember when i was getting tuned and Bryan set it like the first graph just to show me how it pulled and yeah it was nice but he said he would never in his life leave something like that. And now it looks like the second graph
I remember when i was getting tuned and Bryan set it like the first graph just to show me how it pulled and yeah it was nice but he said he would never in his life leave something like that. And now it looks like the second graph
03-04-2010 | 12:42 PM
#911
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From: Illinois
Yep! The kid is living off Brian's coat tails... its pretty sad. Flashing people's car with a base map, and just leaving it... pitiful!
03-04-2010 | 01:12 PM
#913
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Joined: 07-26-08
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From: illinois
Breeeeembos and dem black wheels!
Lol... that was totally worth the 2 hr trip there.
So, quick opinion guys... which one do you think would work better?
This is the DAL (essentially, boost) table from a "tuned" LNF. As you can see, its simply made to spike, which is horrible on the compressor, and causes compressor surge. The spike also lets off very quick, settling at about 18 psi.
Or this, nice gradual climb to boost? There is no spike, and the boost holds at 21 psi until about 6k rpm, where the turbo simply runs out of breath.
I really am just wondering, since i don't know how to tune. Maybe Zach can chime in about this, since he knows oh so much about tuning the LNF. Or, maybe even Sean, since he knows where the LNF VE tables are.
I mean, really. Stock MAF tables when you're customer is running an intake? Stock timing tables, and torque tables that are just turned to 100%...? No wonder people instantly fall in love with your tunes Zach, its because you make the butt dyno feel good, but you don't know how to tune an LNF. Please, stick to your LSJ's and tell your boy friend to quit bustin my chops about supposedly "not knowing how to tune".
Oh, Zach, you also might want to tell your buddy that you already pussed out of a small challenge I had proposed. But, he proposed it again to me... You bring a car you tuned, I will bring a car I tuned. We put them on the dyno, and loser pays dyno fees and $100 to the winner, and the loser shuts up.
Zach, I really am sorry your friend put you in this situation. Maybe you should quit hanging out with the rich, overpriveleged kids (which he says I hang out with LOL), and get some down to earth friends. I understand him trying to protect you, but tell him to get his facts straight before he makes of fool of both of you.
And, to keep accusing my friends of attacking you and your tunes is just laughable. When they stick up for their friends that you screwed over, left hanging at the dyno like a fool, don't you think that they have a right to bash you then? Your customer service sucks, if you couldn't tell.
Oh, and Sean, would you mind pointing out the VE tables in HPT for me, for the LNF? I think I have overlooked them somewhere.
I am done with you Sean. Anything else can be settled out of the thread. If you want to keep bashing my tuning, and me personally, at least get your facts straight.
Lol... that was totally worth the 2 hr trip there.
So, quick opinion guys... which one do you think would work better?
This is the DAL (essentially, boost) table from a "tuned" LNF. As you can see, its simply made to spike, which is horrible on the compressor, and causes compressor surge. The spike also lets off very quick, settling at about 18 psi.
Or this, nice gradual climb to boost? There is no spike, and the boost holds at 21 psi until about 6k rpm, where the turbo simply runs out of breath.
I really am just wondering, since i don't know how to tune. Maybe Zach can chime in about this, since he knows oh so much about tuning the LNF. Or, maybe even Sean, since he knows where the LNF VE tables are.
I mean, really. Stock MAF tables when you're customer is running an intake? Stock timing tables, and torque tables that are just turned to 100%...? No wonder people instantly fall in love with your tunes Zach, its because you make the butt dyno feel good, but you don't know how to tune an LNF. Please, stick to your LSJ's and tell your boy friend to quit bustin my chops about supposedly "not knowing how to tune".
Oh, Zach, you also might want to tell your buddy that you already pussed out of a small challenge I had proposed. But, he proposed it again to me... You bring a car you tuned, I will bring a car I tuned. We put them on the dyno, and loser pays dyno fees and $100 to the winner, and the loser shuts up.
Zach, I really am sorry your friend put you in this situation. Maybe you should quit hanging out with the rich, overpriveleged kids (which he says I hang out with LOL), and get some down to earth friends. I understand him trying to protect you, but tell him to get his facts straight before he makes of fool of both of you.
And, to keep accusing my friends of attacking you and your tunes is just laughable. When they stick up for their friends that you screwed over, left hanging at the dyno like a fool, don't you think that they have a right to bash you then? Your customer service sucks, if you couldn't tell.
Oh, and Sean, would you mind pointing out the VE tables in HPT for me, for the LNF? I think I have overlooked them somewhere.
I am done with you Sean. Anything else can be settled out of the thread. If you want to keep bashing my tuning, and me personally, at least get your facts straight.
aint that the god damn truth!!!! i propose we put someones car up against zach's on the dyno
03-04-2010 | 01:17 PM
#915
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From: illinois
**AHEM... pretty sure my car woulda taken his :P But, 'tis true that the Trifecta is a good tune for what it is.
Oh Dom, how's that tire holding up? I def recommend taking it somewhere to get checked over. I think it might be that your valve stem is a bit loose, or the seal is going bad in the stem. There was no visible signs of damage, or punctures, so its gotta be that. Should be a cheap fix if thats the case, or it might just need tightened down.
Oh Dom, how's that tire holding up? I def recommend taking it somewhere to get checked over. I think it might be that your valve stem is a bit loose, or the seal is going bad in the stem. There was no visible signs of damage, or punctures, so its gotta be that. Should be a cheap fix if thats the case, or it might just need tightened down.
03-04-2010 | 01:19 PM
#916
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Joined: 02-19-09
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From: chicago
03-04-2010 | 02:09 PM
#920
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Joined: 07-26-08
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From: illinois