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Old 03-20-2011, 09:34 AM
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i would return the favor since you helped me with my brakes, but i have no idea what i could do lol.
Old 03-20-2011, 09:57 AM
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Any coming today? I'll be in my hhr.
Old 03-20-2011, 10:08 AM
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if we are still talking about the one in canton, ill go
Old 03-20-2011, 03:28 PM
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I also got the people in that caravan to confirm that they saw you Drew.

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Old 03-20-2011, 03:38 PM
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haha yeah... i read all the ones relating, thanks for telling them it was an SS even tho it really isnt.
Old 03-20-2011, 03:39 PM
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Excited for your new exhaust Drew?
Old 03-20-2011, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew.4L
haha yeah... i read all the ones relating, thanks for telling them it was an SS even tho it really isnt.
oh....oops.
Old 03-20-2011, 03:48 PM
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It's a 2.4 SS. It's just not a boosted SS.
Old 03-20-2011, 03:52 PM
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its an SS because of the wheels, all power options, bigger engine, body,... ability to take 93 octane... etc. its a huge step over base models and 2.2s... but its not forced induction.

my idea of a true SS is the forced induction.
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Ok so i wasn't wrong.

STOP CONFUSING ME!

I'm confused enough as it is.
Old 03-20-2011, 03:59 PM
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wellllll techinallyyy... in 06 the 2.4s had SS badges, but in 08 it was made a black sheep and called the Sport. which is what i have. a wimpy sport badge i placed on the center piece of the grill.

while we are talking about my car, does anyone know a good tuner for me? im getting that over axle pipe soon and after that and the muffler goes in, the shift plus and springs should follow suit, but i would like to know of a local tuner....
Old 03-20-2011, 05:14 PM
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Should get some more mods before you start tuning. You won't see many returns for an exhaust and intake.
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alright. then ill get a header. and then idk, cause i didnt think that far into mods. i just wanted a tune to just be done with my car for a while lol
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Bigger injectors, header, DP, exhaust, intake, maybe some new spark plugs and maybe even get the larger 2.4 intake manifold. You should get a little over 200 with all of that, if not more.

And with the DP, I can probably have my brother weld in a 2.5in section at the 02 sensor, since it pinches down to 2in there.
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Originally Posted by Lifter
Bigger injectors, header, DP, exhaust, intake, maybe some new spark plugs and maybe even get the larger 2.4 intake manifold. You should get a little over 200 with all of that, if not more.

And with the DP, I can probably have my brother weld in a 2.5in section at the 02 sensor, since it pinches down to 2in there.
i asked josh about the injectors... i dont know what they do, so idk what getting bigger ones will do...
are you talking about the extruded honed manifold from gm?
ugh downpipe.
ugh exhaust.
my SRI is fine.
maybe spark plugs.
lol after this over axle/muffler combo, gonna figure out where to go from there.
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If you want more power you need three basic things.

more fuel
more air
and earlier spark advance.

If you are doing mods to reduce airflow restriction (intake, exhaust, headwork, etc.) you are basically trying to get more air into the engine.
Well that wont do you any good unless you add more fuel to match it.

I'm guessing that the stock injectors on an NA cobalt dont have much margin for injecting more fuel than they do now. So I'm guessing they are nearly maxed out.

Basically you might need bigger injectors to keep up with the additional airflow.
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Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
If you want more power you need three basic things.

more fuel
more air
and earlier spark advance.

If you are doing mods to reduce airflow restriction (intake, exhaust, headwork, etc.) you are basically trying to get more air into the engine.
Well that wont do you any good unless you add more fuel to match it.

I'm guessing that the stock injectors on an NA cobalt dont have much margin for injecting more fuel than they do now. So I'm guessing they are nearly maxed out.

Basically you might need bigger injectors to keep up with the additional airflow.
so spark plugs, and injectors are next? isnt a tune needed for bigger injectors?
Old 03-20-2011, 09:30 PM
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A tune is definitely needed for bigger injectors.

As far as spark plugs go, I'm assuming you are replacing them because the current ones are old and need replaced?

You wont get more spark advance by putting in different plugs. Getting more spark advance is achieved via tuning.
Old 03-20-2011, 09:32 PM
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And I wasn't tlaking about your air intake; I'm talking about the plastic intake manifold that your air intake is connected to. There's a high-flow GMPP intake you can get that's 2.2/2.4 compatible. It'll increase airflow, so with new injectors you'll benefit more because fo increase airflow.

Or you could just supercharge it
Old 03-20-2011, 09:46 PM
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right thats what im thinking, isntt it the steel extruded honed manifold the one we are talking about?
jeeesus, then id have to get the injectors, like last lol, no i wont need the spark plugs they should be fine...
alright then. so header/dp combo is next.
at the rate im going, i dont wanna try supercharged, im already squeezing funds.
Old 03-20-2011, 09:53 PM
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lol the honed manifold is the header. I am fairly certain there is another manifold you can get, but it's the intake manifold.

Header/DP will help with a new exhaust. Especially one with a high flow cat.

Get a higher flowing intake manifold with your air intake, and get the next step up in injectors and you should be able to tune and get some better results from it.
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so this: Cobalt & Ion ---> ZZ Performance
and this: BAD-MAB.com
the gmpp honed manifold will have clearance issues on an automatic...
then injectors... THEN tune.
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If you are sequencing out your mods injectors should be parallel to the tune on a gantt chart.

DO NOT drive the car with the new injectors untill its tuned.
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haha yes sorry, thats what i mean, injectors AND tune. guess i wont be done before the spring c-bus meet :'(
Old 03-20-2011, 11:46 PM
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Just bought some Anzo's, other wise I'd get your Projectors =(.

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