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Old 07-20-2008, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
got the Hahn one in there now, works flawlessly
How's it sound??

They make it themselves? Thats pretty neat if its the case.

Originally Posted by phrozen
Eventually, all these parameters will be customizable through the Windows software.
Now that sounds interesting...

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Old 07-20-2008, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by phrozen
Sure, we can change it. So you were trying to 2-step, and it didn't engage because it revv'ed up too fast before the gas was all the way down? Did you really stomp the gas or ease into it?

Eventually, all these parameters will be customizable through the Windows software.
I think it's just my driving habbits. When I used to do a 2nd gear burnout with the slicks I'd rev it up with a couple pumps of the gas and them drop the clutch. Now I find myself doing that over and over and then trying to engauge the 2-step and drop the clutch.
Old 07-21-2008, 07:14 AM
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[QUOTE=ItalianJoe1;2625566]How's it sound??

They make it themselves? Thats pretty neat if its the case.

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Made through turbosmart, sounds awesome, pretty loud though
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Originally Posted by BlackSS/SC
I think it's just my driving habbits. When I used to do a 2nd gear burnout with the slicks I'd rev it up with a couple pumps of the gas and them drop the clutch. Now I find myself doing that over and over and then trying to engauge the 2-step and drop the clutch.
Ok, I'll make a test load for you with the limit raised to 2500... Or do you want it turned off completely?
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Originally Posted by phrozen
Ok, I'll make a test load for you with the limit raised to 2500... Or do you want it turned off completely?
How about making it 3000rpm, or what was it on version 2.2? I don't want it turned off totally though.
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you barely touch the clutch pedal, it activates the ignition cut. you lightly rest your foot on there between wot shifts, it cuts.

two clutch switches on the same circuit.

however. if done right. the blower cars will have a loud bang out the exhaust right after a 2-3ft flame exits the ass end of the car. it is not quiet by any means when it happens. think bikes on the bottle with an air shifter pop
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Originally Posted by Area47
you barely touch the clutch pedal, it activates the ignition cut. you lightly rest your foot on there between wot shifts, it cuts.

two clutch switches on the same circuit.
I'm confused. Did you look and see if there is an adjustment on the clutch pedal position switch? You may be able to adjust the point at which the clutch switch triggers.

We need to use the upper switch, because the lower (starter interlock) switch takes too long to be triggered during a shift, and some people may not hit it at all. So, the upper clutch pedal position switch is the switch of choice, but you just may need to adjust it to suit your driving style....

Originally Posted by BlackSS/SC
How about making it 3000rpm, or what was it on version 2.2? I don't want it turned off totally though.
It didn't exist in 2.2. You could 2-step on the highway.

The idea here is that it should be an indirect measure of speed. Some people don't want the 2-step to engage while moving, otherwise it will be triggered on an aggressive upshift. So, you want it to be low enough that if you were cruising in 5th or 6th on the highway, then clutched in, upshifted and stomped the gas before fully letting out the clutch, you wouldn't trigger the 2-step... or maybe in that situation you would want the 2-step... Some people do, some people dont.....

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Old 07-21-2008, 10:33 AM
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it's a wot driving style change. the two clutch switches are on the same wire at the ecm. one breaks a circuit, they both break it. it's a gm. i stopped asking why a long time ago.

the top one is for cruise disengagement
the bottom is for the starter interlock. both are on the same wire at the ecm.
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Originally Posted by Area47
it's a wot driving style change. the two clutch switches are on the same wire at the ecm. one breaks a circuit, they both break it. it's a gm. i stopped asking why a long time ago.

the top one is for cruise disengagement
the bottom is for the starter interlock. both are on the same wire at the ecm.
perhaps tap the bottom one with the appropriate wire instead of at the pcm. maybe im just a knucle head though, or then again maybe im a correct knucle head.
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yeah no adjustment either i checked last night
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Originally Posted by black06ss
perhaps tap the bottom one with the appropriate wire instead of at the pcm. maybe im just a knucle head though, or then again maybe im a correct knucle head.
one breaks, they both do

already crossed my mind. discussion with someone else about this saturday night confirmed it.

you hit the clutch pedal at the wrong time at wot. you're eating the steering wheel
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Originally Posted by Area47
it's a wot driving style change. the two clutch switches are on the same wire at the ecm. one breaks a circuit, they both break it. it's a gm. i stopped asking why a long time ago.

the top one is for cruise disengagement
the bottom is for the starter interlock. both are on the same wire at the ecm.
I don't think they are on the same wire. Take a look at pins 53 and 54 on the ECM:
https://www.cobaltss.net/resources/pcm/05cobalt20.htm

You can try the lower one, but I think it will activate too late....
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Originally Posted by phrozen
It didn't exist in 2.2. You could 2-step on the highway.

The idea here is that it should be an indirect measure of speed. Some people don't want the 2-step to engage while moving, otherwise it will be triggered on an aggressive upshift. So, you want it to be low enough that if you were cruising in 5th or 6th on the highway, then clutched in, upshifted and stomped the gas before fully letting out the clutch, you wouldn't trigger the 2-step... or maybe in that situation you would want the 2-step... Some people do, some people dont.....

OK, I'd like to not have that limit at all. So no block out from the 2-step but with the new "auto" adjustment from 2.3.

How do I get this? You email it to me? If so you can PM me and I'll PM you the email address.
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i'll just adjust my driving style, or disable it. one of the two. however, hammering third at 7600rpms and the clutch not going zing is effin great
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Originally Posted by Area47
i'll just adjust my driving style, or disable it. one of the two. however, hammering third at 7600rpms and the clutch not going zing is effin great
Yeah, I guess if you avoid riding the clutch, it should be fine. Also, you could try adding a pull-up spring on the clutch pedal like you mentioned. Or maybe there is some brute force way to change where the switch engages, like slightly bending its mounting bracket or filing down the button a bit.....
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Originally Posted by Area47
one breaks, they both do

already crossed my mind. discussion with someone else about this saturday night confirmed it.

you hit the clutch pedal at the wrong time at wot. you're eating the steering wheel
thats what i figured knowing you just thought id throw it out there. well i attempted to think today so now im spent.
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Originally Posted by BlackSS/SC
OK, I'd like to not have that limit at all. So no block out from the 2-step but with the new "auto" adjustment from 2.3.

How do I get this? You email it to me? If so you can PM me and I'll PM you the email address.
Here you go:

http://www.npcompleteperformance.com...O_DUAL_2.3.EXE
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com...SINGLE_2.3.EXE

"NO_LO" means no lockout feature

Make sure you use the "DUAL" file if you have both no-lift shift and 2-step. Use the "SINGLE" file if you have only one feature or the other.
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Originally Posted by BlackSS/SC
OK, I'd like to not have that limit at all. So no block out from the 2-step but with the new "auto" adjustment from 2.3.

How do I get this? You email it to me? If so you can PM me and I'll PM you the email address.
i want this too... ope never mind ^^^ thank you
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
i want this too...
look up... It's posted above...
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you beat me too it? once again nothing but good things from you so far
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is there anything for the 2.2's
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Thanks phrozen!
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Originally Posted by copson20
is there anything for the 2.2's
Right now, we only support the 07+ 2.2s. As far as I know, these are the only 2.2s that have COIL-ON-PLUG ignition. I'm working on some new code that will support everything else that doesn't have coil-on-plug ignition and hope to have it available by next week or so.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you hit the clutch pedal at the wrong time at wot. you're eating the steering wheel
lol yeah I did that once already. I didn't know what happened at first.
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i've done that 3 times so far. a friend was in the passenger seat. his head hit the dash


then i was runnin a friends speed6 and hit 3rd with my exhaust right next to his window. it popped hard. hehehehe

ain't i a stinker


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