Is Nitrous the easiest way?
09-26-2006, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by c0baltic
yes i know.. but still you dont need a license to go to a speed shop and buy n20.. i know it is illegal to transport it across state lines
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09-26-2006, 03:38 AM
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In Illinois it is only illegal to have on the streets with an open bottle. So you can run it closed.
Well that was at least 2 years ago that way.
And as far as stock internals on 2.2 they can safely handle 75 hp shot
Well that was at least 2 years ago that way.
And as far as stock internals on 2.2 they can safely handle 75 hp shot
09-26-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by c0baltic
i am from jersey and i have NEVER heard that you need a license to carry it.. it is not legal to have on the street only to be used off road on the track... also ppl use nirouse in their paint ball guns
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09-26-2006, 05:41 PM
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LOL you guys make me laugh sometimes.
Nitrous laws vary from state to state and even county to county. Keep that in mind. If you are just going out to the track, most officers will not bust your hump about it, **** they may be happy you're going to the track instead of the street anyway.
Fuel pressure is 60psi at the rail on the ecotec.
Nitrous is NOT any more dangerous than any other major power adder, you need to know what you're doing before you use it regularly or at all. 98% of the failures I've seen with nitrous have been user error. People need to stop believeing what they see on the silver screen so much.
I wouldn't run a dry system on these engines either.
Nitrous laws vary from state to state and even county to county. Keep that in mind. If you are just going out to the track, most officers will not bust your hump about it, **** they may be happy you're going to the track instead of the street anyway.
Fuel pressure is 60psi at the rail on the ecotec.
Nitrous is NOT any more dangerous than any other major power adder, you need to know what you're doing before you use it regularly or at all. 98% of the failures I've seen with nitrous have been user error. People need to stop believeing what they see on the silver screen so much.
I wouldn't run a dry system on these engines either.
09-26-2006, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
LOL you guys make me laugh sometimes.
Nitrous laws vary from state to state and even county to county. Keep that in mind. If you are just going out to the track, most officers will not bust your hump about it, **** they may be happy you're going to the track instead of the street anyway.
Fuel pressure is 60psi at the rail on the ecotec.
Nitrous is NOT any more dangerous than any other major power adder, you need to know what you're doing before you use it regularly or at all. 98% of the failures I've seen with nitrous have been user error. People need to stop believeing what they see on the silver screen so much.
I wouldn't run a dry system on these engines either.
Nitrous laws vary from state to state and even county to county. Keep that in mind. If you are just going out to the track, most officers will not bust your hump about it, **** they may be happy you're going to the track instead of the street anyway.
Fuel pressure is 60psi at the rail on the ecotec.
Nitrous is NOT any more dangerous than any other major power adder, you need to know what you're doing before you use it regularly or at all. 98% of the failures I've seen with nitrous have been user error. People need to stop believeing what they see on the silver screen so much.
I wouldn't run a dry system on these engines either.
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09-26-2006, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by c0baltic
i am from jersey and i have NEVER heard that you need a license to carry it.. it is not legal to have on the street only to be used off road on the track... also ppl use nirouse in their paint ball guns
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I think they use nitrogen (N2) not nitrous.
09-26-2006, 06:20 PM
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WTF people answer the question.
Here is my setup and I Think it's easy and safe.
ZEX 50-75 wet shot kit. It's TPS activated, and has built in pressure switches for fuel/nitrous pressure. It's an EASY 3 wire hook up so it's hard to screw up.
Then I have an MSD digital RPM switch so I don't spray over my rev limiter. This add's extra complexity to your wiring because you need to involve relays.
Last a blow down tube so if your bottle bursts the safety valve it leaves the car via the tube and doesn't fill the cabin/trunk we the laughing gas.
In all my nitrous setup has run me about 900 dollars with the zex kit and Tuner kit (bottle gauge, bottle heater, blow down tube and purge kit).
Take your time and learn how relays and switches work and it will be safe and fun. I have a wideband and if it was running lean I would know it.
You could also get a fuel pressure switch, but for the 50 shot I run, I opted against it.
Here is my setup and I Think it's easy and safe.
ZEX 50-75 wet shot kit. It's TPS activated, and has built in pressure switches for fuel/nitrous pressure. It's an EASY 3 wire hook up so it's hard to screw up.
Then I have an MSD digital RPM switch so I don't spray over my rev limiter. This add's extra complexity to your wiring because you need to involve relays.
Last a blow down tube so if your bottle bursts the safety valve it leaves the car via the tube and doesn't fill the cabin/trunk we the laughing gas.
In all my nitrous setup has run me about 900 dollars with the zex kit and Tuner kit (bottle gauge, bottle heater, blow down tube and purge kit).
Take your time and learn how relays and switches work and it will be safe and fun. I have a wideband and if it was running lean I would know it.
You could also get a fuel pressure switch, but for the 50 shot I run, I opted against it.
09-26-2006, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zinner
WTF people answer the question.
Here is my setup and I Think it's easy and safe.
ZEX 50-75 wet shot kit. It's TPS activated, and has built in pressure switches for fuel/nitrous pressure. It's an EASY 3 wire hook up so it's hard to screw up.
Then I have an MSD digital RPM switch so I don't spray over my rev limiter. This add's extra complexity to your wiring because you need to involve relays.
Last a blow down tube so if your bottle bursts the safety valve it leaves the car via the tube and doesn't fill the cabin/trunk we the laughing gas.
In all my nitrous setup has run me about 900 dollars with the zex kit and Tuner kit (bottle gauge, bottle heater, blow down tube and purge kit).
Take your time and learn how relays and switches work and it will be safe and fun. I have a wideband and if it was running lean I would know it.
You could also get a fuel pressure switch, but for the 50 shot I run, I opted against it.
Here is my setup and I Think it's easy and safe.
ZEX 50-75 wet shot kit. It's TPS activated, and has built in pressure switches for fuel/nitrous pressure. It's an EASY 3 wire hook up so it's hard to screw up.
Then I have an MSD digital RPM switch so I don't spray over my rev limiter. This add's extra complexity to your wiring because you need to involve relays.
Last a blow down tube so if your bottle bursts the safety valve it leaves the car via the tube and doesn't fill the cabin/trunk we the laughing gas.
In all my nitrous setup has run me about 900 dollars with the zex kit and Tuner kit (bottle gauge, bottle heater, blow down tube and purge kit).
Take your time and learn how relays and switches work and it will be safe and fun. I have a wideband and if it was running lean I would know it.
You could also get a fuel pressure switch, but for the 50 shot I run, I opted against it.
Thanks this will definatly help.
09-26-2006, 06:25 PM
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You can't run a dry kit on a 2.2 ecotec because it doesn't have a MAF (or at least my ecotec 2.2 didn't) also I don't know if the fuel pressure is 60 psi on the 2.2.
09-26-2006, 06:48 PM
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the thing you have to be careful with when it comes to nitrous is heat. you should be fine witha 50 shot, but i wouldn't go to 75 stock, that could get hairy. With nitrous, you need to make sure you aren't the kind of person that will get carried away and spray twice a day. that's bad. If you just want an occasional boost go for it, just take all the safety precautions (i reccomend the zex racers kit if you go with a zex system<<<also reccomended) and you will be fine. Just don't think that you will be able to juice it all the time, that's when things get bad.
09-26-2006, 06:59 PM
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I've been running 75 for a long time now and everything has been fine. ignition timing is modest enough to not be an issue.
you can spray multiple times a day, as long as you have sufficient bottle pressure, you're running the right octane fuel, etc. track nights I usually make 3-8 passes and there are 0 issues.
as i just stated, the fuel pressure on the 2.2 is 60 psi
the 2.2 in the cobalts does have a MAF, it's the 03-04 Ion's that don't, but even then it's not recommended to go above a 50 shot dry before the MAF (although as I said, I don't suggest a dry shot on the 2.2's at all)
you can spray multiple times a day, as long as you have sufficient bottle pressure, you're running the right octane fuel, etc. track nights I usually make 3-8 passes and there are 0 issues.
as i just stated, the fuel pressure on the 2.2 is 60 psi
the 2.2 in the cobalts does have a MAF, it's the 03-04 Ion's that don't, but even then it's not recommended to go above a 50 shot dry before the MAF (although as I said, I don't suggest a dry shot on the 2.2's at all)
09-27-2006, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
why would you have to worry about heat with nitrous?
09-27-2006, 03:50 PM
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Ive sprayed hundreds of times, no problems here. This is a rich 50 shot since I dont have a bottle heater.
And nitrous hasnt hurt my reliability at all. My car runs fine, I have an extra 50 horses when I need to, and the pressure hasnt bent any rods or melted any pistons with temps.
Its only dangerous for reliability if you **** it up.
And nitrous hasnt hurt my reliability at all. My car runs fine, I have an extra 50 horses when I need to, and the pressure hasnt bent any rods or melted any pistons with temps.
Its only dangerous for reliability if you **** it up.
09-28-2006, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
i was about to go on a ramble about the heat and pressure from a nitrous system, but i decided most people probably already know why nitrous and any other power adder is dangerous for reliabilty, so i deleted it. I missed that first sentence lol. disregard it.
I thought u were implying that nitrous raises engine temps or something...
09-28-2006, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
oh ok I was confused at first, I get it now.
I thought u were implying that nitrous raises engine temps or something...
I thought u were implying that nitrous raises engine temps or something...
it does...no more than another power adder, but it will raise engine temps while you are spraying.
09-28-2006, 11:42 AM
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actually if you're running a setup correctly you will decrease chamber temps and egts, but the increased speed of the engine and such can raise temps a little yeah
09-28-2006, 10:09 PM
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so i just got back from the store and one of my friends said that if i was gonna run a wet nitrous setup that i have to upgrade my fuel system. he mentioned all this stuff but i dont know what he was talking about. can someone help me out?