sweet!!!!
e-Charger FTW!!

 

We tuned our cars today and holy crap did it put a smile on my face when i drove it

 

haha you loosers, i just downloaded my tune into my I-ECU off of ITunes

 

weak sauce

i expected better from you nik

 

because i can reproduce my numbers at any given minute.

 

If he could find someone to reproduce with...

jk

 

I lost a lot of respect for people stating VE tables dont do anything for our cars and state that they are there if the maf fails..... For the matter of info I gained my car runs 100x better just by doing the ve tables. I could barely drive it without WOT thru first gear cause of the LS4 throttle body. now it drives and runs like a stock car. No idle surging, no random misfiring, and so forth. Along with cruise control being able to function normal again. So go ahead and make your boob shaped tables and make them run... just make sure u apply it in a area of the ve table that actually gets used repeatedly during normal driving and state that it runs fine.

Until then I would like that you stop bashing me and my thread just cause I cant provide numbers. Theres plenty of local guys on here that know what my car does and they seen and heard the numbers.

 

they only make a difference when cruise control is active. primary fueling is maf based.

don't make claims if you can't back them up. it's that simple.

 

I noticed and so did others that ive tuned during normal driving conditions. a/f ratios are more stable and have less fluctuation

 

Prove that its only during cruise.

My guess is that the computer cross references both maps to get good AFRs. Problem is i didnt design the ECM so i cannot say what exactly it references when deciding how much fuel to spray. Any cobalt/ion i tune from here on out will be a combo of SD and MAF tuning because it yielded the best results (no i dont have dyno numbers just datalogs that show a very stable/steady afr with all driving conditions). You can go ahead and tune it how you want but when your missing out on power and have a unsmooth car to drive ill just sit back and laugh.

The dyno numbers really mean nothing at this point as the ones he gets in the next month or two will be better anyways.

 

::slams head into desk::

i know for a FACT ve tables do nothing on an 07.

the ve has to be half ass inline on 05-06 cars to get the cruise to somewhat work right, or not so far out of wack it doesn't trip a p0068 code.
ever notice how the ve table STOPS at 215 kpa? little lesson here kids. look at your logs very very closely. notice how the maf and ve lines are damn near identical till 215kpa on the map reading, then the ve drops to exactly what the maf is reading? odd don't ya think?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

think about it.


yep, you got it. my car doesn't make power. my car is so un-smooth even with 272 cams, i can't drive it in rush hour traffic every day.

 

What do you mean by Half-ass inline. My 06 works perfect... cruise and all.

I have not looked at the part of the log you speak of... Ill have to take a look and see what it looks like.


(btw im sorry for being an ass i was just upset that you jumped all over Zspeed.)

 

have proof, or don't speak. it's simple. he has been asked numerous times by people to show proof. even on the irl board.

nill has been shown. hence why i jumped.

 

i have an auto 2.4 with a gm intake and a gm catback would i see any good results from a tune if so im might be interested.

 

Still curious about this....

 

Well, I guess we gotta go back to beeyond to get the results again. Hey, i can bring my car up there (that zspeed tuned) and put down the same numbers (hopefully better) with a 2.8 pulley. I love proving haters wrong.

 

Beyond Redline?

I was going to check that place out. But when I called the guy I talked to didn't know the basics of HPTs credits and I didn't trust him. I don't know the guys name and I could tell he was not thier tuner.

 

beeyond engineering... its a honda shop here in milwaukee that seem to like me and my car very much cause of the impression its left on them.... I got ahold of them for some dyno pulls and im gonna hold off till beginning of may. There doing another dyno day after import wars at great lakes dragaway. So we will see once they set a date cause i will be going...


FYI last time I checked I dont have a screen name on the Ion Redline forums. I think I was on there back when i was looking into the 272 cams and turns out alpha jaguar was on here so I just contacted him on here about them....

we all have or beliefs and I strongly believe that the VE tables do more then most wanna say they do. otherwise I have no way to explain why my car is running the best it ever has right now.

 

Beyound Redline is in GB. I called there last year. They have an awd dynojet. I will probably go there soon. They said they could tune my car but idk. I rather have some one with experience with the LSJ.

 

Ive heard about them and everytime someone gets a tune from them there motor fails shortly after

 

sorry to thread jack, but tell me what you think
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/lounge-42/getting-new-toolbox-need-know-what-color-107349/

 

sorry didnt notice your post right away.... yes you could notice a good gain. How much power im unsure of but a good tune is what makes all them parts work great together. Plus I would be able to adjust shift points so it doesnt seem like it takes forever between shifts and decrease the tq management a little bit. I would have to find out your driving style to make sure I dont take to much away and it ends up killing your transmission


problem with that is theres a fine line with 06 and 07. they are very similar and tables area almost identical from the ones ive compared. I believe 05s and maybe early 06 but the late 06s ive seen are close to what my car had for a tune from the factory. Plus I noticed when you look up a computer for 06 and 07 they are classified as the same

 

the 07 and 06 computers are different. the 07 has more free will to roam about sections of the map where the 06 doesn't
16 bit vs 32 bit.

the tables are the same sans torque managment on the blower, and none on the transmission.

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/tuning-131/available-tuners-locations-86603/

 

yea and? stage kits are the same thing for 06 and 07 even the stage 3 computers. free will can you explain more on that cause im confused on that part. The computer reads the sensors and uses the tables to give the proper amount of fuel. Processor speed is about the only difference I know. And what happens when gm runs short on parts on a late model year. They start using 07 parts on 06 models just to finish them off. so its possible for late 06 cobalts to come with 32bit processor computers.

I really dont understand the free will part but i do know 07s are more of a pain in the ass to tune vs previous years.