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Old 04-02-2009 | 12:46 PM
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The main thing you missed it that you need to loosen all of your mounts, even the top two and let the engine settle. This will get rid of half of your vibes.
when should you loosen them and when should you tighten them? this is the first time ive heard of this.. what are the torqe specs on all these mounts for when were supposed to tighten them again?
Old 04-02-2009 | 12:50 PM
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The vibes when I first installed were really felt, but like two days later it's not really noticeable
Old 04-02-2009 | 12:54 PM
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Yes - i didn't include that 'cuz I didn't know. I will do this after work.

Still need torque specs though - and now I need them for all the motor mounts, lol.
Old 04-03-2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VeNoM0713
when should you loosen them and when should you tighten them?
Yes, I think this would be great if covered by someone. I mean Area said to do the rear one first, but fast98 told me to do the front one first? And really, if you're actually going to loosen ALL 4 mounts to put these in, then simple statistics math will tell you that there are 24 different sequences in which these mounts could be tightened. Maybe it doesn't really matter, but this info. could possibly help me out as well.
Old 04-03-2009 | 09:00 PM
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I did the front one first, then tightened them all down at the same time - well, rear then front, with the bolts tightened a couple at a time alternating between the two of them. Never did get to loosen and re-torque the others though, haven't had time. Vibes have reduced a little just from "break in" I guess, but could still be lower, lol. We'll see.

Now I think my clutch is slipping worse than before, I just don't think I noticed it until now. Thought it was better (see the clutch slip sticky) but for some reason it seems to be only at WOT in 2nd; don't seem to get any slip in the higher gears where it'd normally be worse in my experience? :???:
Old 04-04-2009 | 12:36 PM
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fast98 or lsjwannabee, could you chime in on what the torque specs are on all of the mounts? you said we have to loosen all of them.. in what order do we have to tighten them?
Old 04-04-2009 | 02:00 PM
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so have they shipped yet?
Old 04-05-2009 | 09:21 PM
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chris u got urs already?
Old 04-05-2009 | 09:26 PM
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I thought I would add this pic to this thread since I have not seen one like it.

Stage 1 spacer installed with the rear mount.

Old 04-05-2009 | 10:03 PM
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chris u got urs already?
no, i havent got mine yet but i would like to know how to put these in so i know before hand.. still waiting for fast98 to chime in about the torque specs and what mounts to tighten first.. hopefully we'll get an answer tomorrow about this and also, the status of the mounts.
Old 04-05-2009 | 10:07 PM
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I thought I would add this pic to this thread since I have not seen one like it.

Stage 1 spacer installed with the rear mount.

thats the old design. the new ones are cut straight from billet
Old 04-05-2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
thats the old design. the new ones are cut straight from billet
I believe this is a stage 1 kit. Only the front mount is a full billet replacement w/ stage 1. But good job on getting a camera in there.
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
thats the old design. the new ones are cut straight from billet
Originally Posted by N8s07SS
I believe this is a stage 1 kit. Only the front mount is a full billet replacement w/ stage 1.
Yes. Thanks for clearing that up for blazin.
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Old 04-06-2009 | 12:48 AM
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All we are waiting on are the spacers so we can ship. I believe they are due in monday or tuesday iirc. They will ship after this and everyones orders should get out i believe.
Old 04-06-2009 | 10:10 AM
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This is probaly a stupid question but are you supposed to use all the spacers?
Old 04-06-2009 | 10:11 AM
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Guys I personally don't torque engine mount bolts. As for a tightening sequence. I would tighten the bottom trans mounts first, then the upper mounts. I got the spacers in today, I have to do a little work on them so mounts might not ship till tomorrow.
Old 04-06-2009 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fast98
Guys I personally don't torque engine mount bolts. As for a tightening sequence. I would tighten the bottom trans mounts first, then the upper mounts. I got the spacers in today, I have to do a little work on them so mounts might not ship till tomorrow.
Yea I'd say this is the best sequence from trying a few different ones. The GM build book also gives a 74 ft.-lb torque spec for all mount bolts. Well, I should specify that is for ONLY the through bolts on the lower mounts, but ALL 6 bolts on the 2 upper mounts that thread into the engine/trans. Another usefull tip I will give anyone that is putting these on is to hand tighten EVERY bolt first. If you cannot hand tighten it, then you need to resituate the engine until you can. Binding the engine up even on one mount makes a big difference in the vibes.
Old 04-06-2009 | 12:52 PM
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Yes, I need to loosen them all and do this; just gotta find the time!

Smashed my passenger side rearview last night pulling outta the garage so I'll be working on her soon anyway, lol...
Old 04-06-2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VeNoM0713
no, i havent got mine yet but i would like to know how to put these in so i know before hand.. still waiting for fast98 to chime in about the torque specs and what mounts to tighten first.. hopefully we'll get an answer tomorrow about this and also, the status of the mounts.
iam pretty sure area47 has the torque specs on these, somewhere on this forum they are written
Old 04-06-2009 | 04:58 PM
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TORQUE SPECS... 41 FT LBS FOR ALL TRANS TO MOUNT AND CROSS BOLTS. 46 FT LBS FOR CRADLE TO MOUNT BOLTS

Torque specs given to me by john powell
Old 04-06-2009 | 05:02 PM
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I havent installed mine yet but were do the spacers go?
Old 04-06-2009 | 09:19 PM
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TORQUE SPECS... 41 FT LBS FOR ALL TRANS TO MOUNT AND CROSS BOLTS. 46 FT LBS FOR CRADLE TO MOUNT BOLTS

Torque specs given to me by john powell
Ok, there is nothing worse than misinformation, so here are the torque specs given to me by General Motors Performance Division, as stated in my post above:

Upper mounts


Lower mounts


Originally Posted by scott allen
I havent installed mine yet but were do the spacers go?
Look at my top pic in post #261. They go on each side of the mount shown in that pic. DO NOT PUT BOTH ON ONE SIDE LIKE I DID. I have since fixed it and it works much better now.

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Old 04-06-2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by N8s07SS
Yea I'd say this is the best sequence from trying a few different ones. The GM build book also gives a 74 ft.-lb torque spec for all mount bolts. Well, I should specify that is for ONLY the through bolts on the lower mounts, but ALL 6 bolts on the 2 upper mounts that thread into the engine/trans. Another usefull tip I will give anyone that is putting these on is to hand tighten EVERY bolt first. If you cannot hand tighten it, then you need to resituate the engine until you can. Binding the engine up even on one mount makes a big difference in the vibes.
Do you mean "I should specify that is for NOT ONLY the through bolts on the lower mounts, but ALL 6 bolts on the 2 upper mounts that thread into the engine/trans.
Old 04-07-2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPauL
Do you mean "I should specify that is for NOT ONLY the through bolts on the lower mounts, but ALL 6 bolts on the 2 upper mounts that thread into the engine/trans.
No I didn't mean that. Sorry, in that sentence above, it should say this to be more clear:

I should specify that is for ONLY the 2 through bolts on the lower mounts, and ALL 6 bolts (3 per mount) on the 2 upper mounts that thread into the engine/trans.

The specs I posted are for only the bolts that are either A. Going through the rubber portion of the mount or B. thread into the engine/tranny block. Any bolts that don't fit either of those descriptions have different torque specs (which is probably why people are getting confused, hence why I posted the images from the build book). I think if you look in Area47's thread about these mounts, the torque specs for the other bolts can be found in there. I know this all sounds sort of confusing, but if you just look at the images I posted above, I think it's pretty clear what I'm talking about.


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