Originally Posted by Johnboy12358

I am interested, but confused... To install these, you have to physically rotate the engine? How would one be able to do this in their driveway?

I like the sound of this mod, but I would personally really benefit from some kind of how to... Might just be me, I am somewhat of a newb

Originally Posted by Dainslaif

I'd like to see a modified front mount next to a stock front mount - I couldn't tell the difference. Also, I have an 04, I'm guessing a solution for those doesn't exist yet since those mounts looked like the 05+?

For the top tier, I'm assuming that once we send you our stock mounts it only comes out to $400 +SH, yes? 500 initially then we send you our front and get a $100 refund?



It clearly sounded like it WAS hopping. >_>

The other thing that the poly bushings did was make shifting a lot firmer because the transmission didn't move when you engage the clutch. Going back to stock bushings (even in a rotated transmission) means it will be sloppy shifting again, yes?

Lastly, are you actually making the front mounts from scratch or just machining the stock ones? The price sounds high if the latter is the case ($400 for some machining, a small spacer and stock bushings?). Some may say "well what about the R&D costs?" - John said they were developed inside a week. I can't imagine he spent THAT much in a week unless he went on a bender of coke and hookers, besides, if the product really works, it'll sell in volume, so you can afford to reduce your profit margin. Having another new, even more expensive product in a long line of products 'that are guaranteed to stop hop' smells funny when you could clearly hear the wheels hopping in that video.

The reaction to this seems like the generic bandwagon mentality I've seen with every other hop reduction product. When I was stock I looked into the torque dampeners and traction bars, and everyone I asked said 'Oh these are awesome and stop hop, use them!' but it didn't stop it. Then I looked into poly bushings and a solid motor mount and everyone I asked about those said 'Oh these are awesome and stop hop more than dampers, use them instead!' except they didn't, and now everyone in this thread is running around shouting 'Oh those were crap and don't work, but these do, honest!' and while John knows more about these transmissions than most anyone else, it sounds really sketchy. I'd love to drive a car with these installed to see the difference, but I'm not about to drop $400 and find out they also don't work, just like every other product that "solves wheel hop."

Just my opinion. Good luck with it.

Originally Posted by fast98

Yes they are brand new control arm bushings and they are very durable. Also as you stated they are easy to get and replace. The lnf mount is just a little firmer then the lsj, it helps transfer power on the high HP cars. The upper trans mount is very lose and has no problem twisting anywhere, the upper engine mount also has room to move but not as much as the upper trans. You will not want to run a poly upper with this setup, it's simply not needed. The driveline angle is now straight with these mounts, the only movement you will see it that the engine is slightly closer to the firewall.

Originally Posted by victory_red_SS

I already have all of the solid mounts in my DD (mounts soon for sale). I will be pulling these out and installing the rotated mounts once I received them. Right now I get zero wheel hop, so why am I changing them?
I want the added security for when I am at the track next year. I want to minimise the possibility of damage to my axles and transmission. The cost of these mounts vs the cost of a new transaxle makes this a no brainer to me.
Then again, what do I know?

Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06

this is probly a noob question and most likely already covered but i'm to lazy to read..how hard is the intsall..the same as the poly mounts?i've installed a few sets of those

Originally Posted by UmeNNis

Hmmm... I agree with those who say the price seems too steep. But, would be nice to see if there really will be a benefit or not. And also as stated, you will lose other benefits if you remove poly mounts/traction bars/etc when you do this.

If your interior is rattling, that can be fixed. Where are all you 'you have to pay to play' guys with that one?

If anything, stick with all the other traction mods, AND get this mod, if you think it will help as well.

Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime

i know some others asked but i didnt see an answer posted will these work with an existing turbo tech upper mount?

Originally Posted by N8s07SS

So your poly bushings did not even reduce wheel hop? I did the DIY poly bushings and I would say it solved it 80% on dry pavement and 15% on wet. It made a HUGE difference from stock. The big seller for me on this product is the reduction of cabin vibes. I have noticed many of my interior panels rattling & squeaking much more since I installed the poly mounts. I would love to kill 2 birds with one stone, but do agree with others that it seems a little overpriced. I think I'd be more willing if it was like $100-150 per mount, and the turnaround time better be damn fast if there is a core charge. Not sure I can just have my car out of commission for a week or so?

Originally Posted by cobaltR

subscribed......I need alittle more proof to justify the price on these. That video showed me nothing except that there is still WHEEL HOP! Last I checked....wheel hop still equals broken axles on these cars.

Originally Posted by brandondrecksage

I kind of like the vibrating. Feels more connected and cough:::you have to pay to play:::cough..lol

I have poly trans mounts and ttr upper mount. i get no wheel hop on the street, but still get bad wheel hop on the track.

Originally Posted by chris88z24

That car in the video still hopped....



not impressed. That was also on the street... at the track that car would have broke.

Originally Posted by chris88z24

That car in the video still hopped....



not impressed. That was also on the street... at the track that car would have broke.

Originally Posted by Area47

not all cars that wheel hop break.

mine is proof of it.