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Wanted WTB JBP Header
12-26-2010, 01:43 PM
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Its not a bad header there is just much more you can gain for the money. And I could almost garuntee a badmab header has better gains than the "Noodle" and its about $200 cheaper. It's a cool header and it can work with some setups your just not gonna get the most power for the money. Most people on this site are on a budget and for someone to buy this to gain power it's a waist of money. But again like said earlier if you want a good sound and yor not worried about getting the most power for the money then buy it.
12-26-2010, 02:42 PM
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Oh, look what I've started, lol. So based on all the negative experiences, and opinions, I'll b going with something else.. I was in the middle with this but all this made my decision. So what should I go with? I have a cti 3" dp, and magnaflow catback. Let's hear it??!
12-26-2010, 04:18 PM
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(DISCLAIMER!! This is a lower reading dyno!!! DISCLAIMER!!!) - for those of you who dont use what a dyno is intended for and only look @ numbers.
Lower whp/wtrq is the m62... see the trq curve and how it's a nice long extension until 6k
Now notice the mp90 dyno over top and how it peaks trq @ 4k.... Looks like flow restriction issue on a bigger blower application.
The noodle header works great on a 2.7 m62 setup running 16 psi. My assumption is it simply cannot support the flow of a larger blower application... but thats only an assumption until I redyno w/ a shorty 1 3/4" 3" coll. header. Which is why I told you give me a couple weeks to see if it's worth selling.
Lower whp/wtrq is the m62... see the trq curve and how it's a nice long extension until 6k
Now notice the mp90 dyno over top and how it peaks trq @ 4k.... Looks like flow restriction issue on a bigger blower application.
The noodle header works great on a 2.7 m62 setup running 16 psi. My assumption is it simply cannot support the flow of a larger blower application... but thats only an assumption until I redyno w/ a shorty 1 3/4" 3" coll. header. Which is why I told you give me a couple weeks to see if it's worth selling.
12-26-2010, 05:02 PM
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Torque drops off but you don't feel a dramatic power drop. For the most part in second and the start of third you need to feather the gas cause all it wants do do is spin. No I didn't dyno the shorty before i sold it. My tuner and I had identical setups with the exception of different headers and when we raced you could have nailed a board between our doors. We would exchange fender lenghts as we went through the rpm ranges and shifts.
12-26-2010, 06:01 PM
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So basically, the noodle header is good for what I want, I will be staying with the m62 pulley'd down. Sounds like with the Tvs, problems with flow are seen. I was going to stick with a 2.8 pulley.. B ok guys?
12-28-2010, 09:14 AM
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OTTP's LTH isn't even an equal length header as stated on their website. Mine is from before the GB and it is a thing of beauty. I'm in no way a JBP fanbio, as most ppl know they are dbags. But I don't think there is a better header made for this car that bolt directly into the stock location to the stock downpipe.
Thats actually not stated on the website. It is very close to equal length and we give you the primary lengths. How do you know for sure that the jbp isn't 1/2" off on a primary?
12-28-2010, 02:37 PM
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So much fail in this thread. The design is fine, the 1 5/8 primaries are what hold it back for big power. Anything up to a 2.7 m-62 pulley and you should have no issues. It's funny how so many different platforms use similar style headers with no issues. There may have been some qci on a few of the units but that could be said for every header made for this car as I have seen threads pertaining to quality failure for all of them.
That being said I will be pulling mine off in the next month or so to install my ZZP LTH because I'm going to pulley my TVS down to a 2.6.
The jbp header I have has been proven to show gains on mine and Omega5's car and yes it sounds great.
That being said I will be pulling mine off in the next month or so to install my ZZP LTH because I'm going to pulley my TVS down to a 2.6.
The jbp header I have has been proven to show gains on mine and Omega5's car and yes it sounds great.
12-28-2010, 02:50 PM
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If the JBP primaries are unequal in length that's probably why you like the sound of it so much.
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YouTube - WRX Header Exhaust Comparison EL vs UEL
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YouTube - WRX Header Exhaust Comparison EL vs UEL