Halfcents 2005 Turbo Coupe
02-12-2007, 03:34 PM
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Dam half thats going to be sweet. I like how you do so much home work with every thing you do and how you post it on here for all of us. thats gonna be a cool car.
02-12-2007, 06:54 PM
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02-12-2007, 07:00 PM
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Holy old thread. Anyway...
When I starting learning about the tuning issues with this car, I stopped putting any money into until flash tuning becomes availble. Presently, I'm waiting for SCTFlash to release their support for the Garrett kit. Until then, no more money.
I have done little cosmetic things. I got Smoothlocks, painted the bowtie and brake calipers. Nothing big. I expect to do a lot more this summer upon successful flash tuning.
When I starting learning about the tuning issues with this car, I stopped putting any money into until flash tuning becomes availble. Presently, I'm waiting for SCTFlash to release their support for the Garrett kit. Until then, no more money.
I have done little cosmetic things. I got Smoothlocks, painted the bowtie and brake calipers. Nothing big. I expect to do a lot more this summer upon successful flash tuning.
02-12-2007, 07:23 PM
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you can say that about anything... it's obviously a project car, and something he's putting alot of work into... why mod an evo, why not just buy a z06? why buy a z06, why not just get an F1?
02-12-2007, 08:14 PM
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why mod an evo? hmm put 2k in an evo and ur pullin Z06's...2k not 17k(and yeah it's probably not 2k but it's nowhere near that dam much). I think every person should draw a sensible limit.
02-12-2007, 08:40 PM
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i love my car... if i had a shitload of money to spend, i would mod the hell out of it too instead of buy another car...
02-12-2007, 08:49 PM
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personally the evos are butt ugly.. the cobalt is complete sexy.. evos are just fast.. o yeah pepole are going be like the the hell that is a cobalt that just kick my ass.... go halfcent you have our support
02-12-2007, 08:54 PM
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agreed. i know i can't wait to see the outcome of this
02-12-2007, 09:04 PM
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wow talk about bringing up posts from the dead almost a year old i had to read the date 4 times to make sure i was seeing 06
whats your car running like now ?? hows the transmission holding up
whats your car running like now ?? hows the transmission holding up
whats your car running like now ?? hows the transmission holding up
whats your car running like now ?? hows the transmission holding up
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02-12-2007, 09:08 PM
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if you're going to use that argument why the hell didn't YOU buy an Evo?
02-12-2007, 09:16 PM
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HEY! My thread, no arguing.
First, I haven't spent $17K on my car. Well, not yet. I spent $6K originally on the powertrain build. Then my first engine blew and I had to spend another $5K to fix it. After the turbo, then I'll be over 17. I havne't done any of the electronics work that listed above yet. That stuff is all last after performance.
The car actually has less power then a stock engine. I am running reduced compression pistons on a normally asiprated engine, so less power. However, the car runs perfectly. No CEL on the stock tune. Trans is fine, and there is no reason why it shouldn't be. Everything is great actually.
First, I haven't spent $17K on my car. Well, not yet. I spent $6K originally on the powertrain build. Then my first engine blew and I had to spend another $5K to fix it. After the turbo, then I'll be over 17. I havne't done any of the electronics work that listed above yet. That stuff is all last after performance.
The car actually has less power then a stock engine. I am running reduced compression pistons on a normally asiprated engine, so less power. However, the car runs perfectly. No CEL on the stock tune. Trans is fine, and there is no reason why it shouldn't be. Everything is great actually.
02-12-2007, 09:44 PM
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02-12-2007, 09:58 PM
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WHY!?!?!?!? For all that money you could have bought something that would be alot better stock.
02-12-2007, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
Here are most of my notes to date with my current price list for the above work:
Engine parts (ecotec 2.2L L61 engine)
Rods Eagle CRS5765C3D ARP 2000 bolts (650 HP) $330
Piston, pin, and ring sets Wiseco K583M86 $460
8.9-1 comp ratio and standard bore
Rod bearings GM Goodwrench $22
Head gasket and bolt Kit (GM Goodwrench) $110
Girdle Bolts $95
Springs and valves Ferrea
Sport Compact Competition Plus Valves
F1961P Exhaust Valve 21.18 *8 $169.44
F1963P Intake Valve 21.18 *8 $169.44
Sport Compact Valve Springs
S10057 16.53 *16 $264.48
Titanium Retainer
E11033 12.82 *16 $205.12
Adjustable Cam Gear set
Goodwrench Performance # 88958613 $362.68
Engine work
Machine labor for engine build $1007
labor for R&R $1684.38
Transmission
IPT custom transmission $2976.30
Engineered performance LSD $575
IPT Electro-Manual controller $569
Instrumentation - Autometer
Carbon Fiber Mounting Cup 2121 $38
C2 line
7175 air/fuel ratio $72
O2 probe accessory 2244 $92
7159 boost/vac $200
7144 pyrometer EGT $160
Nexus line
6400 CPU $200
6891 Software $ ?
6459 Boost/Vac $250
6445 EGT $230
Probably gonna need some plumbing / Bungs
From Chevy
sport pedals (PN# 12499875) $81.13
Clifford Matrix 2-way remote starter with turbo timer $600
w/GPS $900
K40 Undetectable Dual w/ Laser jammer $800
window tint 3 rear windows $180
Body shop
Body kit (RK Sport) $580
paint and install $620
Ram air hood (RK Sport) $850
Hood P&I $
Suspension
Shock, strut ?
Pro-Kit springs from Eibach 3899.140 $208.91
Anti-roll bars 3899.320 $346
Control arm bushings
Engine mounts
Wheels (4x100)
18x7.5"
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S P225/40 ZR18TL 88WM+S
Front drag radials ?
Front and rear disk brake kits
SSBC $2100
Engine parts (ecotec 2.2L L61 engine)
Rods Eagle CRS5765C3D ARP 2000 bolts (650 HP) $330
Piston, pin, and ring sets Wiseco K583M86 $460
8.9-1 comp ratio and standard bore
Rod bearings GM Goodwrench $22
Head gasket and bolt Kit (GM Goodwrench) $110
Girdle Bolts $95
Springs and valves Ferrea
Sport Compact Competition Plus Valves
F1961P Exhaust Valve 21.18 *8 $169.44
F1963P Intake Valve 21.18 *8 $169.44
Sport Compact Valve Springs
S10057 16.53 *16 $264.48
Titanium Retainer
E11033 12.82 *16 $205.12
Adjustable Cam Gear set
Goodwrench Performance # 88958613 $362.68
Engine work
Machine labor for engine build $1007
labor for R&R $1684.38
Transmission
IPT custom transmission $2976.30
Engineered performance LSD $575
IPT Electro-Manual controller $569
Instrumentation - Autometer
Carbon Fiber Mounting Cup 2121 $38
C2 line
7175 air/fuel ratio $72
O2 probe accessory 2244 $92
7159 boost/vac $200
7144 pyrometer EGT $160
Nexus line
6400 CPU $200
6891 Software $ ?
6459 Boost/Vac $250
6445 EGT $230
Probably gonna need some plumbing / Bungs
From Chevy
sport pedals (PN# 12499875) $81.13
Clifford Matrix 2-way remote starter with turbo timer $600
w/GPS $900
K40 Undetectable Dual w/ Laser jammer $800
window tint 3 rear windows $180
Body shop
Body kit (RK Sport) $580
paint and install $620
Ram air hood (RK Sport) $850
Hood P&I $
Suspension
Shock, strut ?
Pro-Kit springs from Eibach 3899.140 $208.91
Anti-roll bars 3899.320 $346
Control arm bushings
Engine mounts
Wheels (4x100)
18x7.5"
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S P225/40 ZR18TL 88WM+S
Front drag radials ?
Front and rear disk brake kits
SSBC $2100
I'm in lust with the Eagle rods. We use them in our Neon ACR autocross car.
I once had a similar problem in a N/A Alfa Romeo race engine. the valve caused the steel seat to drop. The top of the piston and the combustion chamber looked like they had been attacked by a claw hammer.
The best of luck - show pics as the engine goes together! the worse part will be the N/A break-in period. With the reduced compression, it will be a D-O-G! But oh, how much better it will feel when completed!
-J-
Last edited by Halfcent; 02-13-2007 at 12:08 AM.
02-12-2007, 10:24 PM
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there are turbo 2.2's running around. they use piggy back fuel managment. there is a video of one on these forums somewhere. he has his video on myspace being dyno'd and you can hear the blow off valve clearly
here is one of the vids i found of the 2.2 w/ a working turbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGYm6qvUiQ
here is one of the vids i found of the 2.2 w/ a working turbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGYm6qvUiQ
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02-12-2007, 10:25 PM
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i like the work that your doing and trying stuff but (not to be rude) what the hell are you doing man?? even if all this stuff works right its not even gonna be fully effective cause you auto is gonna shift so early the turbo wont be fully spooled!!! and your still gonna loose to lightly modded ss/sc's.........but again at least ur doing something but just buy an ss/sc and keep your car for winter for that much cash!!!!! just my0.02
02-12-2007, 10:35 PM
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here is a good dyno pull of a 2.2L turbo cobalt
really nice catch of the blow off valve
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