2008 SS/TC Problems watch out!!!
haha nicely put!
10-29-2008, 02:53 PM
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It's a quick economy car is what it is.
That's what I said... lol.
That's what I said... lol.
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10-29-2008, 03:17 PM
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This thread is filling up with fail pretty quick.
Just because GM gave the thing 260hp and a few go-fast features doesn't make it a performance car. It's still Chevy's economy coupe (or sedan), just with a different drivetrain and uplevel-SS only features.
Get over yourselves.
Just because GM gave the thing 260hp and a few go-fast features doesn't make it a performance car. It's still Chevy's economy coupe (or sedan), just with a different drivetrain and uplevel-SS only features.
Get over yourselves.
I dunno, maybe this thread wouldn't be happening if Chevy marketed how nice the seats were instead of the car's PERFORMANCE figures.
Then, how many magazines track tested this car, touting it as one of the best bang-for-the-buck PEFORMANCE cars out there?
Stock, the car should take almost everything you can throw at it. If Chevy expects me to buy this car and granny it, I might as well go buy a Honda Fit because what good is the 260hp and awesome handling good for otherwise?
10-29-2008, 03:34 PM
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hmm, well im about 270whp (more then a turbo SS) and I have been to the track say 15 times. Every time I ran atleast 4-5 times.
So lets say 75 runs down the track.
No broke Axles
No broke tranny
No broke engine
STILL HAVE STOCK CLUTCH
45,000 miles.....
Hmmm, in comparison, his 1 run down the track should not have killed his tranny. That was a pre-existing issue, and was a failure on GM's part.
So lets say 75 runs down the track.
No broke Axles
No broke tranny
No broke engine
STILL HAVE STOCK CLUTCH
45,000 miles.....
Hmmm, in comparison, his 1 run down the track should not have killed his tranny. That was a pre-existing issue, and was a failure on GM's part.
10-29-2008, 03:34 PM
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The VERY FIRST information Chevy released about the PERFORMANCE of this car was the fact that was the fastest production FWD car around the nurburgring.
I dunno, maybe this thread wouldn't be happening if Chevy marketed how nice the seats were instead of the car's PERFORMANCE figures.
Then, how many magazines track tested this car, touting it as one of the best bang-for-the-buck PEFORMANCE cars out there?
Stock, the car should take almost everything you can throw at it. If Chevy expects me to buy this car and granny it, I might as well go buy a Honda Fit because what good is the 260hp and awesome handling good for otherwise?
I dunno, maybe this thread wouldn't be happening if Chevy marketed how nice the seats were instead of the car's PERFORMANCE figures.
Then, how many magazines track tested this car, touting it as one of the best bang-for-the-buck PEFORMANCE cars out there?
Stock, the car should take almost everything you can throw at it. If Chevy expects me to buy this car and granny it, I might as well go buy a Honda Fit because what good is the 260hp and awesome handling good for otherwise?
10-29-2008, 03:48 PM
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Not all cars are created equal. The tranny could have been a piece of **** while it was on the assembly line. Granted, taking your car to track is going to put more stress on it opposed to normal street driving, but the tranny shouldn't have grenaded from one or two times down the strip. If anything the clutch or axles should have given out. I currently drive a Neon srt-4 which I think is even more cheaply made than the Cobalt SS. I have beaten the SRT numerous times at the track on the stock clutch and still no problems. Chevy should then remove the GM Performance label under the hood if the car can't perform to stock numbers.
10-29-2008, 04:00 PM
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Lets get something straight I know things break I love the car all I am saying is the GM engineers did over 600 burnouts and launch control tests with 1 test car and it held so there was a manufacuring flaw somewhere I know how to drive and this problem hasnt occered with me before and it pays to have friends within GM I appreciate all they did for me
This thread is filling up with fail pretty quick.
Just because GM gave the thing 260hp and a few go-fast features doesn't make it a performance car. It's still Chevy's economy coupe (or sedan), just with a different drivetrain and uplevel-SS only features.
Get over yourselves.
Just because GM gave the thing 260hp and a few go-fast features doesn't make it a performance car. It's still Chevy's economy coupe (or sedan), just with a different drivetrain and uplevel-SS only features.
Get over yourselves.
Bottom line? Drag strips break **** regardless of how much a car costs. It's not a defect.
The VERY FIRST information Chevy released about the PERFORMANCE of this car was the fact that was the fastest production FWD car around the nurburgring.
I dunno, maybe this thread wouldn't be happening if Chevy marketed how nice the seats were instead of the car's PERFORMANCE figures.
Then, how many magazines track tested this car, touting it as one of the best bang-for-the-buck PEFORMANCE cars out there?
Stock, the car should take almost everything you can throw at it. If Chevy expects me to buy this car and granny it, I might as well go buy a Honda Fit because what good is the 260hp and awesome handling good for otherwise?
I dunno, maybe this thread wouldn't be happening if Chevy marketed how nice the seats were instead of the car's PERFORMANCE figures.
Then, how many magazines track tested this car, touting it as one of the best bang-for-the-buck PEFORMANCE cars out there?
Stock, the car should take almost everything you can throw at it. If Chevy expects me to buy this car and granny it, I might as well go buy a Honda Fit because what good is the 260hp and awesome handling good for otherwise?
If you manage to crack a tranny case on a road course or autox, I'll join you in bashing the cheap manufacturing. On the other hand, good luck finding a single instance of this happening. No car was ever designed or built to take everything you can throw at it. Even professional drag racers break parts - it's just the nature of the hobby.
Not all cars are created equal. The tranny could have been a piece of **** while it was on the assembly line. Granted, taking your car to track is going to put more stress on it opposed to normal street driving, but the tranny shouldn't have grenaded from one or two times down the strip. If anything the clutch or axles should have given out. I currently drive a Neon srt-4 which I think is even more cheaply made than the Cobalt SS. I have beaten the SRT numerous times at the track on the stock clutch and still no problems. Chevy should then remove the GM Performance label under the hood if the car can't perform to stock numbers.
Wheel hop. User error.
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10-29-2008, 04:39 PM
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Hows everyone doin I'm a new member but I want to inform everyone of some problems I have had with my new TC balt I had 4275 miles on it a month ago when the problems started I was spinning water off the tires finished and the check engine light turned on the DIC said ENGINE POWER REDUCED I didnt do anything crazy so I was like ok what ever I the tree drops and I go or I thought I was going to go anyways I ran a 30 sec 1/4 mile it felt like the car had no turbo and 1 cylinder so the next day chevy tows my car fix the problem it was some cheap tube somewhere had snapped sorry no more info on that. well they fix that take it on a test drive and smell something burning bring it back in put it on a lift and see trans fluid comming out the bottom refill and as soon as they put trans fluid in it comes out find a straight line crack in the bell housing GM doesnt make parts for the trans and no extras for warrenties are avail yet and the trans is made by SAAB so they have to pull it off the assembly line that took 3 weeks to get in the mean time I told them of something that happened once I just got gas and was driving my gauge dropped from full to empty in 2 sec i pulled over to make sure I didnt have a huge hole in the tank I didnt, turned the car on still read empty so I took off with the gas to the floor and used the no lift shift and as soon as i hit 2nd the fuel gauge came alive again and read full so long story short GM replaced the transmission, fuel pump, fuel module, the cheap plastic tube, and some more crap i dont have the repair order in front of me but chevy told me it was just over 10 GRAND in repairs for parts and labor so watch out and have fun with your TC balt
10-29-2008, 05:01 PM
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economy car, well, not really. Economy cars are cars that get good gas milage regardless of driving style. If you romp on a toyota corolla, youll probly still get 23+ mpg. U do that in a SS/TC and youll be hard pressed to make 19...
10-29-2008, 05:09 PM
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The ss/tc is supposed to be a performance car, if GM would realize that performance cars need good transmissions they wouldn't have this problem, the same thing happened with alot of the ss/sc's.
I agree racing puts alot more stress on the car, but in stock form (i dont know if his is stock or not) it should be able to go down the 1/4 mile without it breaking.
This is all just IMO though.
I agree racing puts alot more stress on the car, but in stock form (i dont know if his is stock or not) it should be able to go down the 1/4 mile without it breaking.
This is all just IMO though.
But then if GM did go ahead to aaddress this problem and place a tough tranny then your cobalt would not have been the BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK car that C&D, R&T named the SS to be.
10-29-2008, 07:16 PM
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Hows everyone doin I'm a new member but I want to inform everyone of some problems I have had with my new TC balt I had 4275 miles on it a month ago when the problems started I was spinning water off the tires finished and the check engine light turned on the DIC said ENGINE POWER REDUCED I didnt do anything crazy so I was like ok what ever I the tree drops and I go or I thought I was going to go anyways I ran a 30 sec 1/4 mile it felt like the car had no turbo and 1 cylinder so the next day chevy tows my car fix the problem it was some cheap tube somewhere had snapped sorry no more info on that. well they fix that take it on a test drive and smell something burning bring it back in put it on a lift and see trans fluid comming out the bottom refill and as soon as they put trans fluid in it comes out find a straight line crack in the bell housing GM doesnt make parts for the trans and no extras for warrenties are avail yet and the trans is made by SAAB so they have to pull it off the assembly line that took 3 weeks to get in the mean time I told them of something that happened once I just got gas and was driving my gauge dropped from full to empty in 2 sec i pulled over to make sure I didnt have a huge hole in the tank I didnt, turned the car on still read empty so I took off with the gas to the floor and used the no lift shift and as soon as i hit 2nd the fuel gauge came alive again and read full so long story short GM replaced the transmission, fuel pump, fuel module, the cheap plastic tube, and some more crap i dont have the repair order in front of me but chevy told me it was just over 10 GRAND in repairs for parts and labor so watch out and have fun with your TC balt
Love the car to death and want to get it soo bad, but between this and some of the tranny issues and other things I'm hearing about the SS/TC it's sorta scaring me...
And whether he was at the track or not, with those miles (and I understand it happens...) but that shouldn't be happening...
10-29-2008, 07:18 PM
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You cracked your bellhousing at the track. They shouldn't have given you a new transmission at all; should have been flagged as abuse and denied.
I hate "omg the car is flawed because I broke it" posts. You took it to a track - **** breaks. Cars are not built to be bullet proof against every fool who thinks it's a drag racing machine.
I hate "omg the car is flawed because I broke it" posts. You took it to a track - **** breaks. Cars are not built to be bullet proof against every fool who thinks it's a drag racing machine.
ANyways to the op , you should be more careful how you drive the car and if gm was kind enough to pick up the tap for something that could partly be your fault , you should not come on here and make a thread with the title that says watch out tc owners if gives the impression that gm fucked up . the 2 of you are to blame for this mistake and just be thankful they fronted the bill and are not like nissan in the gtr situation .
10-29-2008, 07:36 PM
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>_>
BTW: My current daily driver (Civic) wheel hops like a bitch. I have been relentless on the car, and transmission still shifts like new. It's not hard to design for worst case. I am an electrical engineer, I have to design for worst case scenarios, why couldn't GM?
10-29-2008, 09:31 PM
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If you take a car and beat the hell out of it, it will fail. You can't design a car so robust that nobody will break it.
Considering he was going through the water pit, he obviously did not do any fact finding on how to properly drag a FWD car, thus I'm putting him in the same category as the other guy on here complaining about roasting his clutch under 10k.
He launched like a jackass, broke the car, and wrote a wall of very hard to read text blaming the manufacturer. Why should I be nice to this fool?
10-29-2008, 10:09 PM
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Civics don't have anywhere near the torque that an SS/TC does, so you're comparing apples to potatoes. Also, how much have you dragged it?
For comparison - 3 GT-R owners have blown their transmissions. 2 were at the track, 1 was about a week after a track day. The last guy was just going down the expressway and it grenaded. None of them had more than 7k miles.
If you take a car and beat the hell out of it, it will fail. You can't design a car so robust that nobody will break it.
1 mistake? Who knows how long he's been tracking his car? He could have been down there every week since he got it.
Considering he was going through the water pit, he obviously did not do any fact finding on how to properly drag a FWD car, thus I'm putting him in the same category as the other guy on here complaining about roasting his clutch under 10k.
He launched like a jackass, broke the car, and wrote a wall of very hard to read text blaming the manufacturer. Why should I be nice to this fool?
For comparison - 3 GT-R owners have blown their transmissions. 2 were at the track, 1 was about a week after a track day. The last guy was just going down the expressway and it grenaded. None of them had more than 7k miles.
If you take a car and beat the hell out of it, it will fail. You can't design a car so robust that nobody will break it.
1 mistake? Who knows how long he's been tracking his car? He could have been down there every week since he got it.
Considering he was going through the water pit, he obviously did not do any fact finding on how to properly drag a FWD car, thus I'm putting him in the same category as the other guy on here complaining about roasting his clutch under 10k.
He launched like a jackass, broke the car, and wrote a wall of very hard to read text blaming the manufacturer. Why should I be nice to this fool?
10-29-2008, 10:52 PM
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reset ur mpg gauge, then romp on it the rest of the time u drive it. I can promise that u will get much less than 23 mpg.
this is the truest statment on this thread.
this is the truest statment on this thread.
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