208REV

I have a 2009 cobalt ss turbo with the usual five speed. it developed the cracking problem described in this thread https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-10-ss-turbocharged-general-discussion-152/gm-adds-lnf-cars-cracked-tranny-tsb-179000/ and now the dealer wont replace it without charging me $500 i need any one to let me know if they have had a similar failure. thanks alot! btw my car only has 3400 miles on it.

Coblasts

If you have taken it to the drag strip or raced your buddies from a stand still and wheel hopped it $500 is a good deal.

bmac86

ya but he has an 09 ss/tc that should be covered under warranty

Coblasts

The warranty is not to cover abuse,and the car wasnt designed to be raced from a stand still.
Most guys wont tell you what they actually did to the car and then they put the video up on you tube.

If he was racing from a roll there probably never have been a problem but to drive through a violent wheel hop while racing would destry any car .

But to be honest I have looked into this and studied the pictures and do think it is a weak spot in the design of the casing,but in GM's defence under normal driving it wouldnt be a concern !

208REV

nope, never raced it. the car doesn't wheel hop anyhow.. the 09 ss tc has really had some suspension improvements over the old one. Does anyone know if they make the b woody traction bars for the 09 sstc?

Coblasts

If thats the case then I would not pay a cent and make them cover it .
You might have to get a lawyer to write gm customer relations or persue it yourself.

Good luck and dont forget to let us know how you make out !

jsscooby

My dealer mentioned to just as a fyi that if you crack the case due to wheel hop its not coverd. minor accidental wheel hop shouldnt do it. basically dont keep mashing the gas if you start hopping is what they were saying. GL to you. 500 bucks sounds like a deal.

do you remember exactly what you were doing when it cracked. cruising, shifting, accelerating, etc...

phatnackySS

ROFLOL 500 bucks ? is that it ? i just spent 1500 bucks to replace my trans and that's with me doing all the work. sounds to me like they are giving you parts and just charging labor. whether or not it is or isn't your fault 500 bucks is a awesome deal. its Gm policy to not fix broken trans or axles unless it can be proven that its a manufacturer defect.

i don't believe the "i didn't race it " because if that's the cause you wouldn't be worried about traction bars... But if you are indeed telling the truth , then its not cracked and could be a seal. were is it leaking from?

BlueStang

not defending GM but if someone rat races around in the car and **** kicks it then no GM should not have to fix it for free. i'm not saying you abused it but so far about %90 of the time i've seen a SS on the road the person driving it always takes off at a light like a scared rabbit and there are tons of post of people bragging about their race experiences and how many honda's they have beaten

phatnackySS

this is so tru. if your gonna race you have to be prepared to break stuff. not to sound cliché but you gotta Pay to Play

SuperchargedSS

So the trans housing popped under perfectly normal driving conditions? LMAO Surrrrrreeeeee. And in the same thread your asking about traction bars... too funny. Pay the 500, good dealio.

BlueStang

for sure pay the $500. if it happened to me, as they just do not break under normal driving and was given a offer like that i would keep my mouth shut whip out the master card and say deal see you in a few days. walk out and think wow i pulled one over on them

phatnackySS

yeah ...

its about 600 bucks in labor . then its about 2600 bucks for a new tranny , about 1400-1000 used form a scrap yeard. i sure as hell wouldnt walk away form a 3000 dollar job for the price of 500 bucks.

jlong3382

Why will the dealer not replace it? Did they say you abused it?

RonSS

Interesting. with 3400 miles, no questions should be asked. It should be a warranty deal.
Too bad the Cobalt SS now has some history. GM probably replaced more than a few transmissions back in 05 and 06 so they got wise to abuse.
I broke mine, at the dragstrip, (didn't tell the dealer that) and it was replaced w/o question. That was in 06, and the 06 SS/SC suffered from serious wheel hop.
I'm also in my 50's.....but the service manager knew I am a drag racer.
Try em again, and see if they won't just cover it. Since they want you to pay, ask for the old trans back, you can sell the LSD for a pretty penny if is has one.

Ron

208REV

do the traction bars bolt on to my car?

Sharkey

iTrader: (1)

seems a bit suspicious to me with them only charging you $500. makes me wonder if they are going to do a warrenty claim and get paid by gm and then charge you another $500 to get some more on top of it. i mean, the dealer cant buy the tranny for $500, not even at cost, and then they are going to do the re/re for free??? it doesnt add up.

if your paying anything tell them you want your old tranny back.

rukkee

iTrader: (3)

Something has changed in GM's service information regarding this TSB. They have removed it from the 2008-2009's service info pages . You have to go back to 2007 for it to show up . When i first posted it ....it was listed in the 2009 model year so something's up .... Weird.

#09-07-29-003: Transmission Fluid Leak, Slipping Clutch or Broken Axle Shaft (Replace Trans Assembly/Front/Rear Mounts and Both Axle Shafts-Contact District Svc Mgr (Warranty Mgr in Canada) for Repair Approval) - (Jun 12, 2009)


Subject: Transmission Fluid Leak Due to Clutch Housing Fatigue, Slipping Clutch or Broken Axle Shaft (Contact District Service Manager/Warranty Manager (in Canada) for Repair Approval)


Models: 2005-2009 Chevrolet Cobalt SS

2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR SS

2004-2007 Saturn ION Redline

Equipped with 5-Speed Manual Transmission (RPO MU3)

Built Prior to February 12, 2009 (Lordstown) or February 26, 2009 (Ramos)



Attention: Be advised that failures of this nature are generally caused by customer abuse. They are NOT defects in materials or workmanship for which General Motors would be responsible for and should not be covered under the terms of the new vehicle warranty. Vehicles with this complaint should be inspected by your service manager and District Service Manager (Warranty Manager in Canada). A field product report should be submitted on each case. Also, if aftermarket kits are added that may effect the driveline loads, the transmission would not be warranted.



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Condition
Some customers may comment about a slipping clutch. Upon further investigation, the technician will find transmission oil in the clutch housing.

Cause
This condition may be caused by excessive front wheel hop during wide open throttle (WOT) acceleration events. Excessive wheel hop transmits a torsional shock load into the transmission case. This may cause the transmission case to fracture (as shown in graphic below) and transmission fluid to leak into the clutch housing.










Correction
Important: Prior to any work being performed, contact your District Service Manager/Warranty Manager for repair approval.

For 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS and 2004-2007 Saturn ION Redline
If this repair is approved by the District Service Manager/Warranty Manager, replace the transmission assembly. During removal of the transmission, replace the front (GM P/N 20814994) and rear (GM P/N 20814995) powertrain mounts. Refer to SI for the procedures on replacing the transmission front and rear mounts.

For 2008-2009 Chevrolet Cobalt SS and 2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR SS
If this repair is approved by the District Service Manager/Warranty Manager, replace the transmission assembly. During removal of the transmission, inspect the following parts and replace if necessary (excluding tires):

• Tire wear (excessive or uneven) front vs. rear or rubber debris in the front wheel house liner area.

• Inspect the upper right side mount for fluid leaks or (rubber) structural failure.

• Front and rear powertrain mounts, if necessary (refer to SI for the procedure on replacing the transmission front and rear mounts).

Important: Verify that the 12-volt battery has a battery charge of 12 to 16 volts. The battery must be able to maintain a charge during programming. Only use approved Midtronics 165-PCS charger or equivalent to maintain proper battery voltage during programming. The J 2534 MDI will reprogram the modules in less time than the Tech 2® scan tool.

Reprogram the ABS with a updated service calibration using the TIS2WEB Service Programming System (SPS) application. Make sure your Tech 2® is updated with the latest software version. The ABS calibration is available to dealerships in TIS2WEB (website version of TIS). Refer to Electronic Brake and/or Traction Control Module Reprogramming with SPS procedure in SI.

Install Clutch Actuator Pipe Elbow Assembly (P/N 24252286)
•Disconnect the negative battery cable. Refer to Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection.
•Remove the cover from the underhood electrical center.




•Remove the underhood electrical center bracket from the vehicle and reposition the electrical center (1) to access the bracket. Refer to Underhood Electrical Center or Junction Block Bracket Replacement.




Note: Rotate the hose to stop brake fluid from running out of it.

•Disconnect the hydraulic clutch hose (3) from the clutch actuator cylinder (2) and the clutch master cylinder (1).
•Install the clutch actuator pipe elbow assembly, GM P/N 24252286.
•Connect the hydraulic clutch hose (3) to the clutch actuator cylinder (2).
•Bleed the clutch hydraulic system. Refer to Hydraulic Clutch Bleeding.
•Install the underhood electrical center bracket to the vehicle and install the electrical center into position on the bracket. Refer to Underhood Electrical Center or Junction Block Bracket Replacement.
•Connect the negative battery cable. Refer to Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

24252286
Elbow Asm - Clu Actr Cyl Pipe
1

20814994
(Front) Transmission Mount
1

20814995
(Rear) Transmission Mount
1

Warranty Information
Use labor operation and time that is approved by the District Service Manager/Warranty Manager.

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Sharkey

iTrader: (1)

thats interesting, looks like gm admits in that bulletin that mounts are a problem on 05-07 models, im guessing they put the TC mounts in.

208REV

so can someone tell me if the Bwoody traction bars will bolt up to my 09 ss tc?