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Old 02-28-2013, 08:53 AM
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car suddenly running full rich!!!

Problem with my lsj, 2.7, 80s, gas tune.

Ok iv been running on my current tune for 3 days are so and have gone wot and had no problems and I went to data log it this morning and I noticed that my car has lost of its power doing wot(still makes full boost) and its running full rich 10.0, I data logged my base tune and it was running 10.2 to 10.4 and Im pretty sure this is not the tunes fault since just last night it ran fine, but what things could cause my LSJ to run full rich have a rough idle but not have any cels?
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ok I think i fixed it, i was able to tighten one of the bolts that holds the sc to the intake manifold, I think when I hit full boost during data logging it caused my sc to rise up and allowed some air to escape, this would explain why it suddenly went full rich when before it hadnt been, my afr during wot is now 10.9 to 11 so it seems fixed and the idle is smooth also.
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glad ya fixed it
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Originally Posted by Vander Nars
ok I think i fixed it, i was able to tighten one of the bolts that holds the sc to the intake manifold, I think when I hit full boost during data logging it caused my sc to rise up and allowed some air to escape, this would explain why it suddenly went full rich when before it hadnt been, my afr during wot is now 10.9 to 11 so it seems fixed and the idle is smooth also.
Torque the bolts to spec man!!

18 ft-lbs. U can purchase a cheap torque wrench for around $50.

Glad u fixed the issue though.
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Torque the bolts to spec man!!

18 ft-lbs. U can purchase a cheap torque wrench for around $50.

Glad u fixed the issue though.
I lost count on how many bolts I broke during my sc install lol. But I bought a torque wrench from harbor freight and haven't broken a bolt since. It was only $20 too. Very useful
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Lol problem came back ill go get the tool but im need new bolts now lol
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Have you tried going wot in reverse?
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Lol problem came back ill go get the tool but im need new bolts now lol
Talk to Tom at CED.

He can get u the bolts.
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They're like m10 x 1.5 x 40 or something like that. I got new ones from a hardware store cuz I wanted stronger bolts so I wouldn't break them. Ill check the bolt size when I get out of school later lol
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it was running rich probably because vtakk was not hitting right
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Originally Posted by Twoozofjuice
I lost count on how many bolts I broke during my sc install lol. But I bought a torque wrench from harbor freight and haven't broken a bolt since. It was only $20 too. Very useful
I have two (2) ft-lb wrenches and one (1) in-lb wrench.

My one ft-lb wrench is from Ace Hardware ($40 I believe), and is only used for my lug nuts on my cars.

My other two wrenches are Craftsmen.

I use them everytime I work on my car.

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watch out for the harbor freight tq wrench. I tested it against my snap on one and the tq was off by about 10
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I have two (2) ft-lb wrenches and one (1) in-lb wrench.

My one ft-lb wrench is from Ace Hardware ($40 I believe), and is only used for my lug nuts on my cars.

My other two wrenches are Craftsmen.

I use them everytime I work on my car.
Yep. I'm always having to take off my setup and use it everytime. Def my fav tool
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watch out for the harbor freight tq wrench. I tested it against my snap on one and. he tq was off by about 10
Yeah its either a hit or miss with it if you get a good one or not. Mines been pretty spot on though so for now it does the job
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Originally Posted by Twoozofjuice
They're like m10 x 1.5 x 40 or something like that. I got new ones from a hardware store cuz I wanted stronger bolts so I wouldn't break them. Ill check the bolt size when I get out of school later lol
Yeah get me the numbers soon as u can lol
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I just got a tq wrench and I use it all the time lol my friends make fun of me for using it on everything. If you have the spec and the tool, why not use it?
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ok I got 3 of the 4 bolts out and tq down to spec the 4 was starting to stript the head so until I get new bolts im leave him be, Im cleaning the maf now as this is what james told me to do due to raining alot last few days. We will pray this works.
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take one to a bolt place and theyll match the size. Im pretty sure it was m10 x 1.5 x 40. that or m8 x 1.5 x 40 but i think the m8 and m10 are the grades so I would go with m10. i think lol
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m8 and m10 are not grades, its the diameter.
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m8 and m10 are not grades, its the diameter.
oh ok then for sure it was m10. I was thinking of grade 8.8 and 10.9
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its either....

Metric hex bolts, Zinc plated class 10.9 steel, 8mm x 1.25mm x 35mm


or

Metric tap bolts, Zinc plated class 10.9 steel, 8mm x 1.25mm x 25mm

Cuz I ordered for my supercharger but I cant remember which were the ones I had used but those are the only bolts that I had ordered 4 for.
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ok I think its fixed this time, i took out the map sensor and cleaned it. went for a test run and didnt go full rich again im data log in morning and see if its fix.
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Ok well its not fixxed iv cleaned the maf, map, and filter. Sprayed all arouded the sc to look for leaks got nothing anyone else got any idea?
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Im restate the problem, whenever the car has sit for a bit i can go do pulls in 2 and 3 gear a few times and have an 11.0 afr but after a few pulls my aft drops to 10.0 and it bucks pretty bad when u shift. No codes are being thrown, i have bolt sc down to spec and sprayed around it to look for leaks found nothing, cleaned the map sensor, maf sensor and filter. Problem still happening.
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well james think it could be the upstream o2 sensor so I ordered one of them I feel like im be tossing parts at this problem for a while lol.
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