Kaisoboy

Soooo....I have had it with this ******* car. I will never bye GM ever again. I am putting this car up for sale.

I get a call from Jack Carter This morning and they will not warrenty the master cylinder on my car. They claim that the Clutch pressure is the cause for the failure and not the fact that the master cylinder is a cheap peice of plastic ****.

I am so pissed off right now I can't believe it.

SSRedSC

Dude that ******* blows!! I know how you feel. I wont ever buy another ford again either....

Drakonen2000

burn the place down and demand your stapler back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SSCobalt~SSZ24

sorry to hear that but most dealers are like that

not just GM

and it depends on what dealer you take it to. try another

dodgeboy38

I agree with you completely dude my 08 has been in the shop since 2/28/08. it has 1900 miles.

SSRedSC

WOW. There is nothing else I can say to that.

Kaisoboy

Here is what the damage looks like that they say they wont fix.



You are standing looking at the firewall from the front of the car. The tabs you see are bent. You can also see the small stress fractures on the sides of the tabs in the fire wall. They told me I would have to take the car to a performance shop to have it fixed so that they could welld up a braket or something to make it stronger.

chipsgt

Uh.... lemon that car.
I think you qualify.

LE5CAV

3fo893013L

Ah! You had the same problem I did at 70,000 miles. It's a design flaw. Let me see if I can find pictures in a minute.

Kaisoboy

so how did they fix yours?

3fo893013L

If the teeth that interlock the clutch master cylinder are screwed on the plate (bent or broken) and will not accept a new clutch master cylinder it's a $50 part and about 10 hrs of labor (if you know what your doing). You have to tear the entire dash apart to get to the screws that hold the firewall plate in place. The screws are BEHIND the dash, the plate is flimsy metal and will not withstand welding. A new clutch master cylinder costs $120 (US). The dealership broke mine cause they didn't know what they were doing and didn't know it twists off, they won't fix it. Too costly for them.

Here is the diagram pictures of how everything is assembled thru the plate.





taking the dash apart is the worst, putting it all back together is easy. the plate took a half hr after it was accessible.

shabodah

There is still no "how-to" but some people are upgrading to C5 vette master cylinders. It's still a PITA to install, but they don't have the issues with failing, and you can modify the firewall while you're there.

SSbrian

take a chance and go to war with GMAC.... tell them ur not gonna pay ur payments unless they fix it... see wat happens... my mom bf did it with his 07 serria... and they just took the truck back and nothing happened to his credit

3fo893013L

btw, here is my CSS.net thread on it with pictures to show you what I am talking about.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ylinder&page=3

Kaisoboy

So how big is this plate.

3fo893013L

it's slightly larger than a normal frisbee

good luck getting it fixed.

replied to all your PM's Hope it's helpful. Lemme know if you need anything else.

dodgeboy38

i do.... just waiting to see what gm is going to offer me....

3fo893013L

I sent you another PM. Trying to get the part # for you. Should know very soon.

-Mike

sorry I don't know what the part number is. It's been so long ago.

DeftonesFan867

That sucks man, but are really going to let one dealer keep you from buying another GM down the road?

Kaisoboy

No, but I was so pisssed at what that idiot at Carter told me I was not thinking straight. Lightning bolts were shooting from my eyes.

When you stand there and shrug your shoulders and tell me my 30K car is screwed and you don't know what I should do and I have to go and figure it out for you and then come back and tell you, then you should be paying me. I told the service manager I was going to charge him my daily rate as a consultant for doing his job. When I told him what that was he almost choaked. They said I owed $210 for the work they already did which was **** all by the way, so thats when I said OK, as a consultant I am billed out at 500-600 CAD/day once I leave the office so it took me 6 hours of my time to research what to do + the full day I had to take off to get my car over to the other dealer who bye the way knew how to fix it, you now owe me 440 CAD.

So here is how I broke it down.

30 hr of my time (man field hours)

600 daily rate/24 in a day = $25/ man hour x 30 man hours = $650/day man hr rate

then take $650 - $210 (they charged me) = 440 CAD you owe me for my time doing your job + agrivation.

Well when I told him that he takes a step back and says you aren't serious are you and I said yes I am. I then told him that if I were to charge my client xxx amount for my product then bill them but phone them up after I take their money and say thanks for paying me to do the job but I don't think I can complete it, do you think I would be in bussiness for long. So he sys well no and I say EXACTLY!!!!

So in the end he did not charge me for the work.

Beotchess

blk ss/sc 1

yea my parents did the same thing with their ford, and they just took it back and did nothing to the credit

Kaisoboy

So here is what happens when GM builds cheap ass parts...So sad.



This is gonna hurt the pocket book when all is said and done.

3fo893013L

yep. I seen you had to do the same thing I did

Was any of my information helpful a week or two back? That's about how my car looked. Also, when you hook the steering wheel back up your going to need to get an alignment cause the steering wheel will never go back on without looking like it's turning when it's straight.

It's sad that it has to come down to this. All this just to reach a few god damn bolts that I wish they would have put on the OUTSIDE of the firewall not the inside.

Coblasts

What was the original problem that led to this. Symptoms etc that made them look at the master cylinder mounting hole.
Just curious for future reference.