GM uses cheap aluminum
03-06-2007, 11:47 AM
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GM uses cheap aluminum
hairline crack in the oil pan.... didnt hit anything or put any stress on the pan. (no it didnt throw a rod through the pan
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this follows a cracked transmission case (inside the bellhousing) due to really thin metal casting. WTF happened to the metals that they are using? im so sick of GM's **** poor quality. makes me wanna buy a ******* Honda.
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) this follows a cracked transmission case (inside the bellhousing) due to really thin metal casting. WTF happened to the metals that they are using? im so sick of GM's **** poor quality. makes me wanna buy a ******* Honda.
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03-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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If things are so poorly built or wrong materials are used, why are you the first person I have heard with this issue? Not trying to bash or anything, just think that you're going to have issues with just about any car manufactured by any company. It's rough to see so many negative comments about GM on a forum about GM products. I know you were just ranting, I felt I needed to do the same, no biggie...
On another note, how did you find out about the crack? Leak on the driveway? This is exactly why I want to put an oil pressure gauge in my car...
Whelp, good luck with everything and I hope you don't end up buying a Honda!
On another note, how did you find out about the crack? Leak on the driveway? This is exactly why I want to put an oil pressure gauge in my car...
Whelp, good luck with everything and I hope you don't end up buying a Honda!
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hairline crack in the oil pan.... didnt hit anything or put any stress on the pan. (no it didnt throw a rod through the pan )
this follows a cracked transmission case (inside the bellhousing) due to really thin metal casting. WTF happened to the metals that they are using? im so sick of GM's **** poor quality. makes me wanna buy a ******* Honda.
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) this follows a cracked transmission case (inside the bellhousing) due to really thin metal casting. WTF happened to the metals that they are using? im so sick of GM's **** poor quality. makes me wanna buy a ******* Honda.
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please, buy a honda...make us all feel good
03-06-2007, 01:50 PM
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Oh I know it is. Everything on that engine is stamped saab. Somebody with access to a CNC machine, needs to make an adapter plate to bolt in a FWD 6 speed tranny out of some other car. Now that would be awesome..LOL
I remember when we replaced my buddies 5-speed in his 1500 pickup (with carbed 383 stroker) with a T-56 viper style 6 speed..AHH it was golden
I remember when we replaced my buddies 5-speed in his 1500 pickup (with carbed 383 stroker) with a T-56 viper style 6 speed..AHH it was golden
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OK - guess the article in Edmunds does not have the correct info.
Every Cobalt SS is equipped with a heavy-duty Getrag five-speed manual transmission. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts, and a steep 4.05-to-1 final drive ratio increases performance off the line. Our test car was also equipped with the G85 Performance Package, which includes a much needed limited-slip differential and sporty Recaro bucket seats.
03-06-2007, 02:59 PM
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OK - guess the article in Edmunds does not have the correct info.
Every Cobalt SS is equipped with a heavy-duty Getrag five-speed manual transmission. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts, and a steep 4.05-to-1 final drive ratio increases performance off the line. Our test car was also equipped with the G85 Performance Package, which includes a much needed limited-slip differential and sporty Recaro bucket seats.
Every Cobalt SS is equipped with a heavy-duty Getrag five-speed manual transmission. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts, and a steep 4.05-to-1 final drive ratio increases performance off the line. Our test car was also equipped with the G85 Performance Package, which includes a much needed limited-slip differential and sporty Recaro bucket seats.
03-06-2007, 03:04 PM
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OK - guess the article in Edmunds does not have the correct info.
Every Cobalt SS is equipped with a heavy-duty Getrag five-speed manual transmission. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts, and a steep 4.05-to-1 final drive ratio increases performance off the line. Our test car was also equipped with the G85 Performance Package, which includes a much needed limited-slip differential and sporty Recaro bucket seats.
Every Cobalt SS is equipped with a heavy-duty Getrag five-speed manual transmission. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts, and a steep 4.05-to-1 final drive ratio increases performance off the line. Our test car was also equipped with the G85 Performance Package, which includes a much needed limited-slip differential and sporty Recaro bucket seats.
It is NOT a Getrag, it's a Saab design and built under the ill-fated guise of FGP (Fiat-Gm Powertrain)- GM's on-the-outs ,European based powertrain consortium with Fiat.
BUT AFAIK it's still built in a plant at/near Trollhattan Sweden ,where as the new FGP F40 6-speed (used in the Saab 9-3 Aero and Pontiac G6) is built in another FGM facility in Germany IIRC.
Saab actually calls the LSJ transaxle the FM55 and the speed gear ratios are IDENTICAL to those used in the 9-3 sold into North America, HOWEVER the Saab 9-3 has a slightly taller final drive ratio of 3.82:1 as opposed to the 4.05:1 This changes it's model designation to the FM57. I've been eye-ballin the larger F40/FM67 6-speed as a possible upgrade for the Redline for some time. It's rated for considerably more input torque, geared lower (with the exception of 1st) and has slightly closer spacing. Here's a speed chart comparing the F35/FM57 to the F40/FM67.
MU3 is the GM RPO code for the Saab F35
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BUT AFAIK it's still built in a plant at/near Trollhattan Sweden ,where as the new FGP F40 6-speed (used in the Saab 9-3 Aero and Pontiac G6) is built in another FGM facility in Germany IIRC.
Saab actually calls the LSJ transaxle the FM55 and the speed gear ratios are IDENTICAL to those used in the 9-3 sold into North America, HOWEVER the Saab 9-3 has a slightly taller final drive ratio of 3.82:1 as opposed to the 4.05:1 This changes it's model designation to the FM57. I've been eye-ballin the larger F40/FM67 6-speed as a possible upgrade for the Redline for some time. It's rated for considerably more input torque, geared lower (with the exception of 1st) and has slightly closer spacing. Here's a speed chart comparing the F35/FM57 to the F40/FM67.
MU3 is the GM RPO code for the Saab F35
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Tougher transmission The SS Supercharged uses a heavy-duty FGP (F35) five-speed manual transmission. It has a higher torque capacity to withstand the increase in output from the engine. The gears are spaced in even increments to keep the engine in its “sweet spot” between shifts. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts, too. The shifter’s travel is approximately 1 inch shorter than the shifter found in other Cobalt models.
Complementing the higher torque capacity transmission are two equal-length halfshafts with higher torque capacity. Their equal length helps limit the tendency of torque steer in this powerful front-drive application. The final drive ratio for the transaxle is 4.05:1.
The heavy-duty transmission and axle system support the engine’s increased torque, but also multiply the effectiveness of the power generated by the supercharger. In all, it’s a carefully balanced, uncompromising high-performance powertrain that is enabled by a racetrack-tested suspension.
Complementing the higher torque capacity transmission are two equal-length halfshafts with higher torque capacity. Their equal length helps limit the tendency of torque steer in this powerful front-drive application. The final drive ratio for the transaxle is 4.05:1.
The heavy-duty transmission and axle system support the engine’s increased torque, but also multiply the effectiveness of the power generated by the supercharger. In all, it’s a carefully balanced, uncompromising high-performance powertrain that is enabled by a racetrack-tested suspension.
03-06-2007, 05:20 PM
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look at a saab and look at the ss/sc the shifters are identical....also the new saab 9-3 both 4 and 6 cylinders are 6 speeds now and both are front wheel drive....why couldn't we get 6 speeds?