a_joyner

This is my guess as well. The wheel will shimmy around on the lugs weakening them, and eventually they will break.

insylem

100 ft pounds!

Any less, they COULD back off and your wheel fall off,
Any more, and you risk damageing the studs and breaking
them, or weakening them to where they break.

The damage could have been done several wheel removals ago
to the point where it was weaked even by proper torque on the time
after that. Metal Fatigue is weird like that. The shope before the
last shope that messed with it, could have done it as well as the shop
before them.

D_sean257

My friends IRL has done this twice, same wheel. Weird.

Ph3lix_004

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Thank you everyone for your input. Still sucks.. they fixed the other side under warranty but they refuse this side now??? i dont get it

Ph3lix_004

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the wheels have been off at least twice since they were bought from the shop by me. i put em on plenty tight by hand, this isnt my first car im no newb to wheel changing and such.. this has never happened before

reefone

ive had this happen to me but i caught it right b4 the last lug snapped off. ****** sucks. the dealer put my wheels on and after a couple months of driving the lugs loosened and started snapping them off. wheel was making a weird noise like u explained and i caught it with just the one lug holding.

ive also had the dealer use a air gun to put my lugs on cross threaded. both time they would not do anything.

Phil424

I'll tell ya exactly what happened. The lugs were put on with the impact, people think that impacts torque the **** out of your wheels, infact that not really true at all. What happened here was whoever put the wheels on put them on with the gun, and didn't torque them correctly. When you work in a shop you get a feel for the right torque. Also, aluminum rims need to be re torqued 100 miles after taking them off. When you heard the noise instead of running to the dealer you should of pulled over and checked the torque on the lugs.

dtowngreg

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that is a beautiful car. i didnt think the ls models could look that good

red06SC

edit

after some thought, I'm going to go with backing off too

hook

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i have had 17 lugs snap on the cobalt. i replaced them all now with aftermarket and have not had a problem since. Never had them all snap at once. I would replace them all man. at least your cars ok


side note always tighten at 100ft lbs. to much less and they will come lose. i would go over 120 tho.

Ph3lix_004

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thanks for the comments i put alot into her



and they said its gonna be $700 to fix.. bs im just gonna have to bring it home and do it myself when i have the money for it after basic

Phil424

110 is what you want. No more no less.

sLAsh

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Before you use those rims again I would make sure the holes haven't gotten ovaled by moving around on the studs.

LS6Rally

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^ this. unfortunatly you may have destroyed the rim durring the process.

drumrush

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the gm torque specs are 100. Why would you go 110

DiabeticKripple

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i go a bit over just to make sure. you wont damage anything by going 10 ft/lbs over

Ph3lix_004

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alright so i was talking to a buddy today and gave me an idea. If i take the car home, put stock wheels on and then towed to a different dealership do you think that would work as far as getting it done under warranty? or will they know i was denied at another dealer? thoughts?

toadybowl

This...did you have hub centric rings on your wheels?

Ph3lix_004

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i have no idea
its these..
motegi racing mr116 rims and tires packages. motegi racing mr116 black w/ stripe wheels and tires packages at WheelsNext.com

insylem

Too much over 100ft lbs, and you can warp your brake rotor, then start a thread, brake peddle pulsing when slowing down at high speeds. Not ABS... lol

Or damage the studs...
But ya, ive had people cross thread lugs on studs before, it sucks...
My brother had Al rims on his S-10, and didn't know they needed the 100 mile (or less) retorque..
He was only 25 miles on them, when a wheel fell off...
Ever sicne then anytime I take my wheels off, always, do a 20 - 50 mile retorque...
and I even baught a torque wrench....

Phil424

Alloy wheels have to be re torqued 100 miles after them coming off, no more no less. Warping a rotor by tighting lugs is a wifes tale. Before you would even come close to warping a rotor with lugs you'd snap the stud in half.

DiabeticKripple

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I retorqued mine at 100 kms and they turned about an eigth of an inch

Permafried-

Can also happen if they horribly over-tighten then, which happens far too often as well. Every time I get my car back from the dealer and I know the wheels have been off, I bring it home, break the lugs, jack it up, tighten and properly torque. No joke not too long ago I estimated they were torqued to 140 fl-lbs at least which is obviously way too high. When I had my tires installed I stood there and watched them put the wheels on and torque them down properly.

Far too many people who are certified to work on vehicles have a hell of a time properly torquing down lugs. It's ridiculous tbh and this is the result in far too many cases.

Ph3lix_004

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any input on this? im really broke and i just need the car fixed lol if i cant find a way to get the dealer to fix it the Balt will be sitting in my driveway till i get back from basic...

LS6Rally

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if htey documented it in the system that prob. wont work. you VIN number would trace back to it.