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Old 06-18-2008, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
changed the plus mulitple times, and changed the gap multiple times!!! how can a harness short out thoe???

cuz i heard the coilpacks can go bad, and i might replace my Crankshaft positioning sensor..wut yali think??
it just happens, my friend had a short but i forgot what his problems was. all i remember is that his car ran like ****
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
changed the plus mulitple times, and changed the gap multiple times!!! how can a harness short out thoe???

cuz i heard the coilpacks can go bad, and i might replace my Crankshaft positioning sensor..wut yali think??
well u do that and i'll switch the harnesses and we'll go from there man
Old 06-18-2008, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thatotherguy
it just happens, my friend had a short but i forgot what his problems was. all i remember is that his car ran like ****
can u ask him for us please??
Old 06-18-2008, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thatotherguy
it just happens, my friend had a short but i forgot what his problems was. all i remember is that his car ran like ****
see though man my car runs great at wot it just is misfiring like no other at idle and less than 2000rpms
Old 06-18-2008, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Altiery54
well u do that and i'll switch the harnesses and we'll go from there man
will do i just dont wanna waste money on crap that is not my problem..i always had a thing inside my head about something with the injectors..but there was no point to pull them, because there really isnt nothing to check

Originally Posted by Altiery54
see though man my car runs great at wot it just is misfiring like no other at idle and less than 2000rpms
then its not ur harness lol, cuz my car runs liek ass at WOT and fine at daily driving, just as long as i dont give it past half throttle!

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:17 PM
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read post 9 though man. i think it has somethign to do with the injectors

Originally Posted by 04redline0124
will do i just dont wanna waste money on crap that is not my problem..i always had a thing inside my head about something with the injectors..but there was no point to pull them, because there really isnt nothing to check



then its not ur harness lol, cuz my car runs liek ass at WOT and fine at daily driving, just as long as i dont give it past half throttle!
mybe i'll try opening the spark plug gap to like .037 and see how that does

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Altiery54
read post 9 though man. i think it has somethign to do with the injectors



mybe i'll try opening the spark plug gap to like .037 and see how that does
hook it up to hp tuners and see what comes up! and how do u know wut cylinder is misfiring??

it might be a faulty injector, not the harness if its only a certain injector
Old 06-18-2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
hook it up to hp tuners and see what comes up!
i dont have hptuners and even if i did i wouldnt know what i am looking at

also during WOT runs my car has 0 misfires so i am lost

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Altiery54
i dont have hptuners and even if i did i wouldnt know what i am looking at

also during WOT runs my car has 0 misfires so i am lost
i think its ur tune then....talk to wicked and tell him to log it
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
i think its ur tune then....talk to wicked and tell him to log it
i live 5 hours from him. he is looking over my file though
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clogged cat?
Old 06-18-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
clogged cat?
would that throiw a p0300 code?
Old 06-18-2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
clogged cat?
nah im catless...and if it was a clogged cat then it would **** up at wot!
Old 06-18-2008, 11:42 PM
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this car is really frustrating the hell outta me. i;m going 2 bed hopefully i can dream up a good solution
Old 06-18-2008, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Altiery54
this car is really frustrating the hell outta me. i;m going 2 bed hopefully i can dream up a good solution
is car getting enough spark at idle?
Old 06-18-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
is car getting enough spark at idle?
what should they be ghapped at? and how can i check?
Old 06-19-2008, 06:40 AM
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ok....all this stuff would make sense if the misfire wasnt following the injector....he threw the injector out of c1 in to c2 and the misfire followed to c2......has to be the injector! the harness wouldnt cause that, and if it did, it wouldnt follow the injector. and as i said, due to the fact that it is under 2k rpm, im guessing the injector isnt opening wide enough at low idc's....60's are big, and i would guess that at low idc's (less than 5 percent) they arent as precise as say, 42's at the same idc due to the larger appature. This would be causing it to run lean, and thus misfire.....if it was running rich there would be fouling on the plug....
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Who did you buy your Injectors from? You need to find someone who can flow test them.

I'll put $20 on the fact that the one that is causing the problem isn't flowing correctly at Idle-like speeds.

You problem has nothing to do with spark or ignition. It is solely a FUEL INJECTOR PROBLEM. You proved that when you moved Cyl 1's injector to Cyl 2 and the problem followed.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
Who did you buy your Injectors from? You need to find someone who can flow test them.

I'll put $20 on the fact that the one that is causing the problem isn't flowing correctly at Idle-like speeds.

You problem has nothing to do with spark or ignition. It is solely a FUEL INJECTOR PROBLEM. You proved that when you moved Cyl 1's injector to Cyl 2 and the problem followed.
i bought my injectors from zzp. i can see why i never got the cel on the wya home from ohio cause i drove on the highway the whole time and was never idling. i am going to call zzp at 9 when they open. i do not know of anywhere around me with a flow bench to test them, hopefully zzp will take a look at them and see whats up
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
Who did you buy your Injectors from? You need to find someone who can flow test them.

I'll put $20 on the fact that the one that is causing the problem isn't flowing correctly at Idle-like speeds.

You problem has nothing to do with spark or ignition. It is solely a FUEL INJECTOR PROBLEM. You proved that when you moved Cyl 1's injector to Cyl 2 and the problem followed.
x2! ...i have that same theory
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my car having the same problem but at wot
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Originally Posted by heyitsmikey1987
my car having the same problem but at wot
YOUR problem is more than likely related to Spark Plugs... or a blown IC Pump.

Actually, there are a lot of possibilities for your problem. How are your IAT2's behaving?
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Hmm.. Not much progress yet. I dont think it is a mechanical problem, like something being wrong with the car, mostly because I have heard of others with this same problem. The reason I am running towards it running rich at idle rather than lean is because when mine use to do it really bad, the fuel would almost start to puddle in the cylinders This is how the dealership almost killed my engine, you know its a bad sign when they pull out wet spark plugs. Lol

Also, another reason is because under WOT condition, the air is just forcing out all of the extra fuel that is being put in at idle, hence why it gets rid of all the misfires that are standing as well.

I notice in your signature you have a Wideband, is it hooked up yet? What are you seeing at idle?
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Originally Posted by Drakonen2000
ok....all this stuff would make sense if the misfire wasnt following the injector....he threw the injector out of c1 in to c2 and the misfire followed to c2......has to be the injector! the harness wouldnt cause that, and if it did, it wouldnt follow the injector. and as i said, due to the fact that it is under 2k rpm, im guessing the injector isnt opening wide enough at low idc's....60's are big, and i would guess that at low idc's (less than 5 percent) they arent as precise as say, 42's at the same idc due to the larger appature. This would be causing it to run lean, and thus misfire.....if it was running rich there would be fouling on the plug....
listen to him....

its your injector and id put money on it. Contact zzp and get it replaced.

harness is fine,

unless your other cylinders are misfiring your gap is fine.

.37 is a good gap.


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