Mysterious noise?
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Mysterious noise?
So let me fill everyone in. I recently blew a spark plug and did some work on my car. I did the following to it during the build.
Ported head by LSJION
Smaller Pulley(3.0)
Bigger injectors
Complete timing chain
And after we had it all back together it is making a whining noise that goes with the rpms. I thought it was the water pump so i replaced that. Still makes the noise. Brought it to a shop and thay said it was the water pump too.
I told them i replaced it and they said it could be one of the other gears on the balance shafts but he said that it sounds like a bearing noise but doesnt know if the balance shafts have bushing or bearings.
He also thought it could be that my timing chain is too tight. Any ideas? Im stuck. here is the video:
Ported head by LSJION
Smaller Pulley(3.0)
Bigger injectors
Complete timing chain
And after we had it all back together it is making a whining noise that goes with the rpms. I thought it was the water pump so i replaced that. Still makes the noise. Brought it to a shop and thay said it was the water pump too.
I told them i replaced it and they said it could be one of the other gears on the balance shafts but he said that it sounds like a bearing noise but doesnt know if the balance shafts have bushing or bearings.
He also thought it could be that my timing chain is too tight. Any ideas? Im stuck. here is the video:
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And the timing is correct. If anything im leaning towards the timing chain being too tight.
I appreciate both of your inputs though.
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So after some more digging i found a Solstice thread where the person had the same problem and someone posted this...
"#PIP3535A: Whine Noise From Timing Chain Area - (Aug 10, 2009)
Subject: Whine Noise From Timing Chain Area
Models: 2002-2005 Chevrolet Cavalier
2004-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt (Including Cobalt SS)
2010 Chevrolet Equinox
2006-2010 Chevrolet HHR (Including HHR SS)
2004-2010 Chevrolet Malibu (Including Hybrid)
2004-2005 Chevrolet Malibu Classic
2010 GMC Terrain
2002-2004 Oldsmobile Alero
2007-2010 Pontiac G5
2006-2010 Pontiac G6
2002-2005 Pontiac Grand Am, Sunfire
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2006-2009 Pontiac Solstice (Including GXP)
2007-2010 Saturn Aura (Including Hybrid)
2003-2007 Saturn Ion (Including Redline)
2001-2005 Saturn L Series
2007-2009 Saturn Sky, (Including Redline)
2002-2010 Saturn Vue (Including Hybrid)
2003-2010 Saab 9-3
With any of the following engines:
2.0L Engine (LSJ)
2.0L Engine (LNF)
2.2L Engine (LAP)
2.2L Engine (L61)
2.4L Engine (LE5)
2.2L Engine (LE8)
2.4L Engine (LE9)
2.4L Engine (LAF)
2.4L Engine (LAT)
2.0L Engine (B207)
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This PI was superseded to update model years and engines involved. Please discard PIP3535.
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
A whine noise from the front of the engine may be experienced if the balance shaft tensioner has ratcheted out, causing the balance shaft chain to be too tight. In rare instances the balance shaft tensioner will ratchet out during service of the cylinder head, timing chain or if the water pump is replaced without using the water pump sprocket holding tool (J43651). This will cause the balance shaft chain to be too tight, which can cause a whine noise from the front of the engine.
Recommendation/Instructions:
Before attempting repairs, ensure that the noise is definitely abnormal by comparing the noise to other known good vehicles. If the noise is abnormal and the noise was not present previously, the balance shaft chain tensioner may need to be reset or replaced. Follow eSI repair procedures and reset/replace the balance shaft chain tensioner as needed. "
So my question about this is. Can the balance shaft tensioner be removed with out removing all of the timing chain?
"#PIP3535A: Whine Noise From Timing Chain Area - (Aug 10, 2009)
Subject: Whine Noise From Timing Chain Area
Models: 2002-2005 Chevrolet Cavalier
2004-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt (Including Cobalt SS)
2010 Chevrolet Equinox
2006-2010 Chevrolet HHR (Including HHR SS)
2004-2010 Chevrolet Malibu (Including Hybrid)
2004-2005 Chevrolet Malibu Classic
2010 GMC Terrain
2002-2004 Oldsmobile Alero
2007-2010 Pontiac G5
2006-2010 Pontiac G6
2002-2005 Pontiac Grand Am, Sunfire
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2006-2009 Pontiac Solstice (Including GXP)
2007-2010 Saturn Aura (Including Hybrid)
2003-2007 Saturn Ion (Including Redline)
2001-2005 Saturn L Series
2007-2009 Saturn Sky, (Including Redline)
2002-2010 Saturn Vue (Including Hybrid)
2003-2010 Saab 9-3
With any of the following engines:
2.0L Engine (LSJ)
2.0L Engine (LNF)
2.2L Engine (LAP)
2.2L Engine (L61)
2.4L Engine (LE5)
2.2L Engine (LE8)
2.4L Engine (LE9)
2.4L Engine (LAF)
2.4L Engine (LAT)
2.0L Engine (B207)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This PI was superseded to update model years and engines involved. Please discard PIP3535.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
A whine noise from the front of the engine may be experienced if the balance shaft tensioner has ratcheted out, causing the balance shaft chain to be too tight. In rare instances the balance shaft tensioner will ratchet out during service of the cylinder head, timing chain or if the water pump is replaced without using the water pump sprocket holding tool (J43651). This will cause the balance shaft chain to be too tight, which can cause a whine noise from the front of the engine.
Recommendation/Instructions:
Before attempting repairs, ensure that the noise is definitely abnormal by comparing the noise to other known good vehicles. If the noise is abnormal and the noise was not present previously, the balance shaft chain tensioner may need to be reset or replaced. Follow eSI repair procedures and reset/replace the balance shaft chain tensioner as needed. "
So my question about this is. Can the balance shaft tensioner be removed with out removing all of the timing chain?
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