greygoose08

i just installed the stage 2 and did everything to the exact direction. last step was put in zzp pcm and reconnect battery. turn key on to check for leaks. there were none. and proceeded to crank until it started. did so for about 5 min and never once even pretended like it was going to start. i need some help asap!!!!!

Sizzle06

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Fuel pump relay?

greygoose08

yeah i plugged it back in. could it be in backwards????

Sizzle06

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Maybe,did you cycle your fuel pump before cranking the motor?

Coblasts

You dont require a crank relearn when you install the zzp pcm.I thought you had to do it when a pcm is swaped out.
On that relay ,Ive read that alot of guys have put it back wrong.
Hope thats all it is.

greygoose08

cycle the fuel pump? how do you do that? and also crank relearn? i am newer and dont even know what that it and i sure hope not!!

Coblasts

Can you hear the fuel pump running when you turn the key on.(Humming sound from the back of the car.)
If you can hear the fuel pump you know the relay is in right.

Sizzle06

iTrader: (4)

Cycle the fuel pump means that you put the key in the ignition and turn it to run but don't start the car,you should hear the fuel pump when you turn it to run.Turn the key back and then back to run position 3x and then try to start it.

greygoose08

ok ill go try that. and what if it doesnt work?

Coblasts

You couldnt of hooked up the injector harness backward could of you.(Reverse order)

Security light isnt on is it.

greygoose08

hey thanks guys! i got it running. letting it warm up and gonna check for leaks. the fuel relay was in the wrong spot. i guess it can be moved up one to far of its original spot. but thanks alot. and now the check engine light is on. so guessing i need the crank relearn?????? i have an appointment tom. at 230 for gm to fix my antenna. could they do it rite away. or could there be something else wrong?

Coblasts

I would get the code first and then post it .
They will void your warranty if they find out you swaped the pcm I would think.
You might not need the relearn .I would email zzp and ask or put it out on the form, someone else that has it could tell you for sure.
Does the info that came with the setup say anything,If not it must not be necessary.

07BaltSS/SC

Off topic but where in WI?

greygoose08

mosinee. ok well theres a couple gm dealers around here. i will go to one that i didnt buy my car from and maybe they will not know? ill just ask them to tell me the code.

FastSSinNH

If all you wanna know is the code just goto an auto zone. They will scan it for free. Just so you know before you bring it to the dealership.

cli3e0339384398jk

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i coded with a different PCM as well and just got the relearn done anyways, it turned out it was a misfire code but the relearn helped it out durastically.

greygoose08

i guess i drove it and now the lite is off. and is staying off. il have to c what happens!

StreetDreamz

Anytime you swap PCMs for one that hasn't been in your car previously you ALWAYS require a relearn and you SHOULD NOT DRIVE IT UNTIL YOU DO SO. Engine timing will be significantly affected and serious damage could be done if you do not do the relearn.

If ZZP didn't state this in their instructions then I think it's time people realize they should stop buying "professional mail order tunes" from them as it would be apparent that they have no idea what they are doing.