Ohio Emissions Testing bs
11-07-2013, 07:07 PM
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i when through last night and disabled all the DTC that i need but heres another question i have 2 permenate DTC in the system if i have them both disabled will the system think there "fixed", im guessing yes. the more i learn about the newer obd2 the more i wana slap who ever though of it in the face lol
11-08-2013, 08:07 AM
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alright well in some 2009 models and all 2010 and newer models have a new DTC type Permanent DTC Which can not be cleared by a code scanner or disconnecting the battery, the only way to get a Permanent DTC to go away is fixing the problem or im guessing it not seeing that code reapear again in the system
So in theroy sence i have the codes already disabled and they will not appear in the system, after a set ammount of time the permanent DTC should go into DTC history. i was hoping some one has delt with this bs before but im guessing im one of the frist
So in theroy sence i have the codes already disabled and they will not appear in the system, after a set ammount of time the permanent DTC should go into DTC history. i was hoping some one has delt with this bs before but im guessing im one of the frist
11-08-2013, 02:44 PM
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i wish i knew more on how it worked but it "seems" that the permanent DTC's work like i/m monitors and have to do Tests to say there ready. i have seen with i/m monitors you can delete/disable the code and it will still say its ready after running its tests.. i just hope the permanent DTC work the same way and arent on a sub lvl where deleting the codes dont work
if i had a copy of hp tuners your can manual set the i/m monitors to say there ready
if i had a copy of hp tuners your can manual set the i/m monitors to say there ready
11-10-2013, 07:54 AM
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heres a update no matter how much i drive or how i drive it i cant get the codes to clear. i think theres a sprate system just for emissions, ill leave all the emission codes disabled and replace the purge solenoid and the o2 if the codes clear then in all 09 and up models have a seprate system for emissions. it will be a good thing to know if you wanna mod a newer car
Update - after heading back from advanced i pluged in my ob2 scanner to check my readiness monitors and my o2 monitor said it was ready even though i still have a permanit po420 dafuk?
Update - after heading back from advanced i pluged in my ob2 scanner to check my readiness monitors and my o2 monitor said it was ready even though i still have a permanit po420 dafuk?
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11-10-2013, 01:58 PM
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Uhhhhh what? Permanent DTC's? Couldn't you just flash a stock 2007 tune on a 2010 ECU,open your waste gate and run 0 boost until you get a pass on the test? If you wanted to go that far. I don't know what to tell you. Go to a garage with a younger guy or a sketch garage, throw them $20-40, and call it a day.
11-10-2013, 02:12 PM
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We have an "unconditional pass" here. If the cost to repair is over $450 you get a free pass BUT you can't sell the car until the issue has been resolved.
11-15-2013, 01:43 PM
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Well i stoped in at the gm dealership i bought the car from and they said it take 40 drive cycle to remove a permanent code 
so with a drive cycle being 30 min or less, i would have to keep doing drive cycles back to back for around 20 hours. i could drive from north east ohio all the way down to key west florida in 21 hours, so if you wanted to do a 20 hour drive cycle you would use around 62 gallons of gas at my 23 avg mph and it cost would cost $219.00 at $3.52 
In my case i only drive to work this time of year so i could do a full drive cycle on the way there and back it would take 20 days if there wasnt any traffic. so if you or someone you know has a 09+ tell them what expect
so with a drive cycle being 30 min or less, i would have to keep doing drive cycles back to back for around 20 hours. i could drive from north east ohio all the way down to key west florida in 21 hours, so if you wanted to do a 20 hour drive cycle you would use around 62 gallons of gas at my 23 avg mph and it cost would cost $219.00 at $3.52 In my case i only drive to work this time of year so i could do a full drive cycle on the way there and back it would take 20 days if there wasnt any traffic. so if you or someone you know has a 09+ tell them what expect
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