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04-03-2007, 08:28 PM
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thats fucted.....I can see if the sportlines cause something but if its some gear or a CV joint I dont think springs would affect it that much, but i could be wrong
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I would keep taking the car back to the dealer until they find a repair. Keep every invoice you get from them so you will have a paper trail for your problem and GM will make it right eventually. This problem has been around for about 5 years now with various GM vehicles they are getting positive results with a new intermediate shaft from a new supplier. Try to be patient, I know it is an annoying noise. The latest update was in Feb. It is as follows:
Document ID# 1897103
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt
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Subject: Steering Column Rattle or Knocking Noise at Low Speeds (Diagnosis and Replace Steering Column, If Necessary) #07-02-35-004 - (02/02/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2007 Pontiac G5
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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle or knocking noise that is heard in the front of the vehicle while driving at low speeds (5-15 mph or 8-24 km/h). This condition may be more noticeable while making a slow turn, or on a loose/rough surface.
This condition can be duplicated by the technician using the following procedure:
On a rough or loose surface (i.e., gravel parking lot), make a sweeping turn (either direction) at 5-15 mph (8-24 km/h) to load the steering column, I-shaft and steering rack/gear mechanisms (The testing on a rough or loose surface will allow the wheels to oscillate slightly and will make the rattle/knocking noise more evident and repeatable).
Release the steering wheel, while making the turn, to take load off of steering components. This should initiate the rattle/shudder noise, which is generated by backlash in the steering assembly as it is in a no load float condition.
Remove the 60 amp EPS fuse (1) in the underhood fuse block.
Test the vehicle as in Step 1. Since the EPS motor is no longer powered, only the I-shaft and steering gear/rack will be loaded as you make the turn. If you hear the rattle/knocking noise during the turn, then the noise is being generated by the backlash within the steering column (assist motor gear mechanism).
Replace the 60 amp EPS fuse and repeat Steps 1 & 2 to verify that the rattle/knocking noise disappears when turning (loading steering mechanism) and can only be heard when releasing the steering wheel.
Correction
If the steering column is identified as the source of the rattle/knocking noise in the above test, then replace the steering column.
Important: The noise in the steering column is generated from the metal to plastic gear backlash of the assist motor mechanism and will have a different sound than that from the steering gear. If the customer comments that they still hear a noise, it may be a different sound from either the I-shaft or the steering rack.
If the steering column is not identified as the source of the rattle/knocking in the above test, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
15914408
Kit, Steering Column (Cobalt, G5, Pursuit)
Hope this helps someone here.
Document ID# 1897103
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt
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Subject: Steering Column Rattle or Knocking Noise at Low Speeds (Diagnosis and Replace Steering Column, If Necessary) #07-02-35-004 - (02/02/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2007 Pontiac G5
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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle or knocking noise that is heard in the front of the vehicle while driving at low speeds (5-15 mph or 8-24 km/h). This condition may be more noticeable while making a slow turn, or on a loose/rough surface.
This condition can be duplicated by the technician using the following procedure:
On a rough or loose surface (i.e., gravel parking lot), make a sweeping turn (either direction) at 5-15 mph (8-24 km/h) to load the steering column, I-shaft and steering rack/gear mechanisms (The testing on a rough or loose surface will allow the wheels to oscillate slightly and will make the rattle/knocking noise more evident and repeatable).
Release the steering wheel, while making the turn, to take load off of steering components. This should initiate the rattle/shudder noise, which is generated by backlash in the steering assembly as it is in a no load float condition.
Remove the 60 amp EPS fuse (1) in the underhood fuse block.
Test the vehicle as in Step 1. Since the EPS motor is no longer powered, only the I-shaft and steering gear/rack will be loaded as you make the turn. If you hear the rattle/knocking noise during the turn, then the noise is being generated by the backlash within the steering column (assist motor gear mechanism).
Replace the 60 amp EPS fuse and repeat Steps 1 & 2 to verify that the rattle/knocking noise disappears when turning (loading steering mechanism) and can only be heard when releasing the steering wheel.
Correction
If the steering column is identified as the source of the rattle/knocking noise in the above test, then replace the steering column.
Important: The noise in the steering column is generated from the metal to plastic gear backlash of the assist motor mechanism and will have a different sound than that from the steering gear. If the customer comments that they still hear a noise, it may be a different sound from either the I-shaft or the steering rack.
If the steering column is not identified as the source of the rattle/knocking in the above test, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
15914408
Kit, Steering Column (Cobalt, G5, Pursuit)
Hope this helps someone here.
04-10-2007, 05:08 PM
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^^^^ just got back from the dealer and they said they have to replace the steering column. At first they thought intermediate shaft and they he use a stethascope and said it was the column
04-10-2007, 11:33 PM
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My Pursuit started to make that noise at about 2,000Km and after 1 and a half year later, everytime I stop at my dealer for something, they tell me that there is no solution for this problem at this time...
I really don't want to live with that and finally, after years, will be time to change the car and the problem will still be there so I would say to me that I paid every month for that thing...
Got multiple problems with my car (A/C Heat fan making terrible noise, key won't come out of the ignition, radio lock, suspension make terrible noise at temperature below -0c, warped rotors turned 1 time but warped again and I drive very carefully)
The only problem that got repaired is the radio lock, for the key that won't come out they changed something but it do it again...
Was with a Lincoln 1992, no problem at all, now I think why I don't bought a newer one, they are a bargain for what it is! Not like the pursuit/cobalt...
I really don't want to live with that and finally, after years, will be time to change the car and the problem will still be there so I would say to me that I paid every month for that thing...
Got multiple problems with my car (A/C Heat fan making terrible noise, key won't come out of the ignition, radio lock, suspension make terrible noise at temperature below -0c, warped rotors turned 1 time but warped again and I drive very carefully)
The only problem that got repaired is the radio lock, for the key that won't come out they changed something but it do it again...
Was with a Lincoln 1992, no problem at all, now I think why I don't bought a newer one, they are a bargain for what it is! Not like the pursuit/cobalt...
04-22-2007, 04:48 PM
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what will a dealer charge for replacing the steering column? I have a 2005 cobalt LT with 37500 miles on it . I found this problem by having my daughter sitting in the drivers seat, no keys in it , and slightly moving the steering wheel back and forth. I felt the loosenes,I thought, in the universal joint,from the steering column .Is this what everyone is talking about on this issue.?
04-22-2007, 11:45 PM
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my clunk is back had steering colume, shaft, gear, strut done i guess its the rack Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
whats this bulletin Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
I would keep taking the car back to the dealer until they find a repair. Keep every invoice you get from them so you will have a paper trail for your problem and GM will make it right eventually. This problem has been around for about 5 years now with various GM vehicles they are getting positive results with a new intermediate shaft from a new supplier. Try to be patient, I know it is an annoying noise. The latest update was in Feb. It is as follows:
Document ID# 1897103
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt
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Subject: Steering Column Rattle or Knocking Noise at Low Speeds (Diagnosis and Replace Steering Column, If Necessary) #07-02-35-004 - (02/02/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2007 Pontiac G5
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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle or knocking noise that is heard in the front of the vehicle while driving at low speeds (5-15 mph or 8-24 km/h). This condition may be more noticeable while making a slow turn, or on a loose/rough surface.
This condition can be duplicated by the technician using the following procedure:
On a rough or loose surface (i.e., gravel parking lot), make a sweeping turn (either direction) at 5-15 mph (8-24 km/h) to load the steering column, I-shaft and steering rack/gear mechanisms (The testing on a rough or loose surface will allow the wheels to oscillate slightly and will make the rattle/knocking noise more evident and repeatable).
Release the steering wheel, while making the turn, to take load off of steering components. This should initiate the rattle/shudder noise, which is generated by backlash in the steering assembly as it is in a no load float condition.
Remove the 60 amp EPS fuse (1) in the underhood fuse block.
Test the vehicle as in Step 1. Since the EPS motor is no longer powered, only the I-shaft and steering gear/rack will be loaded as you make the turn. If you hear the rattle/knocking noise during the turn, then the noise is being generated by the backlash within the steering column (assist motor gear mechanism).
Replace the 60 amp EPS fuse and repeat Steps 1 & 2 to verify that the rattle/knocking noise disappears when turning (loading steering mechanism) and can only be heard when releasing the steering wheel.
Correction
If the steering column is identified as the source of the rattle/knocking noise in the above test, then replace the steering column.
Important: The noise in the steering column is generated from the metal to plastic gear backlash of the assist motor mechanism and will have a different sound than that from the steering gear. If the customer comments that they still hear a noise, it may be a different sound from either the I-shaft or the steering rack.
If the steering column is not identified as the source of the rattle/knocking in the above test, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
15914408
Kit, Steering Column (Cobalt, G5, Pursuit)
Hope this helps someone here.
Document ID# 1897103
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt
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Subject: Steering Column Rattle or Knocking Noise at Low Speeds (Diagnosis and Replace Steering Column, If Necessary) #07-02-35-004 - (02/02/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2007 Pontiac G5
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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle or knocking noise that is heard in the front of the vehicle while driving at low speeds (5-15 mph or 8-24 km/h). This condition may be more noticeable while making a slow turn, or on a loose/rough surface.
This condition can be duplicated by the technician using the following procedure:
On a rough or loose surface (i.e., gravel parking lot), make a sweeping turn (either direction) at 5-15 mph (8-24 km/h) to load the steering column, I-shaft and steering rack/gear mechanisms (The testing on a rough or loose surface will allow the wheels to oscillate slightly and will make the rattle/knocking noise more evident and repeatable).
Release the steering wheel, while making the turn, to take load off of steering components. This should initiate the rattle/shudder noise, which is generated by backlash in the steering assembly as it is in a no load float condition.
Remove the 60 amp EPS fuse (1) in the underhood fuse block.
Test the vehicle as in Step 1. Since the EPS motor is no longer powered, only the I-shaft and steering gear/rack will be loaded as you make the turn. If you hear the rattle/knocking noise during the turn, then the noise is being generated by the backlash within the steering column (assist motor gear mechanism).
Replace the 60 amp EPS fuse and repeat Steps 1 & 2 to verify that the rattle/knocking noise disappears when turning (loading steering mechanism) and can only be heard when releasing the steering wheel.
Correction
If the steering column is identified as the source of the rattle/knocking noise in the above test, then replace the steering column.
Important: The noise in the steering column is generated from the metal to plastic gear backlash of the assist motor mechanism and will have a different sound than that from the steering gear. If the customer comments that they still hear a noise, it may be a different sound from either the I-shaft or the steering rack.
If the steering column is not identified as the source of the rattle/knocking in the above test, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
15914408
Kit, Steering Column (Cobalt, G5, Pursuit)
Hope this helps someone here.
Last edited by zzzzzzzz; 04-22-2007 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
05-05-2007, 03:18 AM
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I would keep taking the car back to the dealer until they find a repair. Keep every invoice you get from them so you will have a paper trail for your problem and GM will make it right eventually. This problem has been around for about 5 years now with various GM vehicles they are getting positive results with a new intermediate shaft from a new supplier. Try to be patient, I know it is an annoying noise. The latest update was in Feb. It is as follows:
Document ID# 1897103
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt
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Subject: Steering Column Rattle or Knocking Noise at Low Speeds (Diagnosis and Replace Steering Column, If Necessary) #07-02-35-004 - (02/02/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2007 Pontiac G5
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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle or knocking noise that is heard in the front of the vehicle while driving at low speeds (5-15 mph or 8-24 km/h). This condition may be more noticeable while making a slow turn, or on a loose/rough surface.
This condition can be duplicated by the technician using the following procedure:
On a rough or loose surface (i.e., gravel parking lot), make a sweeping turn (either direction) at 5-15 mph (8-24 km/h) to load the steering column, I-shaft and steering rack/gear mechanisms (The testing on a rough or loose surface will allow the wheels to oscillate slightly and will make the rattle/knocking noise more evident and repeatable).
Release the steering wheel, while making the turn, to take load off of steering components. This should initiate the rattle/shudder noise, which is generated by backlash in the steering assembly as it is in a no load float condition.
Remove the 60 amp EPS fuse (1) in the underhood fuse block.
Test the vehicle as in Step 1. Since the EPS motor is no longer powered, only the I-shaft and steering gear/rack will be loaded as you make the turn. If you hear the rattle/knocking noise during the turn, then the noise is being generated by the backlash within the steering column (assist motor gear mechanism).
Replace the 60 amp EPS fuse and repeat Steps 1 & 2 to verify that the rattle/knocking noise disappears when turning (loading steering mechanism) and can only be heard when releasing the steering wheel.
Correction
If the steering column is identified as the source of the rattle/knocking noise in the above test, then replace the steering column.
Important: The noise in the steering column is generated from the metal to plastic gear backlash of the assist motor mechanism and will have a different sound than that from the steering gear. If the customer comments that they still hear a noise, it may be a different sound from either the I-shaft or the steering rack.
If the steering column is not identified as the source of the rattle/knocking in the above test, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
15914408
Kit, Steering Column (Cobalt, G5, Pursuit)
Hope this helps someone here.
Document ID# 1897103
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt
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Subject: Steering Column Rattle or Knocking Noise at Low Speeds (Diagnosis and Replace Steering Column, If Necessary) #07-02-35-004 - (02/02/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2007 Pontiac G5
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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle or knocking noise that is heard in the front of the vehicle while driving at low speeds (5-15 mph or 8-24 km/h). This condition may be more noticeable while making a slow turn, or on a loose/rough surface.
This condition can be duplicated by the technician using the following procedure:
On a rough or loose surface (i.e., gravel parking lot), make a sweeping turn (either direction) at 5-15 mph (8-24 km/h) to load the steering column, I-shaft and steering rack/gear mechanisms (The testing on a rough or loose surface will allow the wheels to oscillate slightly and will make the rattle/knocking noise more evident and repeatable).
Release the steering wheel, while making the turn, to take load off of steering components. This should initiate the rattle/shudder noise, which is generated by backlash in the steering assembly as it is in a no load float condition.
Remove the 60 amp EPS fuse (1) in the underhood fuse block.
Test the vehicle as in Step 1. Since the EPS motor is no longer powered, only the I-shaft and steering gear/rack will be loaded as you make the turn. If you hear the rattle/knocking noise during the turn, then the noise is being generated by the backlash within the steering column (assist motor gear mechanism).
Replace the 60 amp EPS fuse and repeat Steps 1 & 2 to verify that the rattle/knocking noise disappears when turning (loading steering mechanism) and can only be heard when releasing the steering wheel.
Correction
If the steering column is identified as the source of the rattle/knocking noise in the above test, then replace the steering column.
Important: The noise in the steering column is generated from the metal to plastic gear backlash of the assist motor mechanism and will have a different sound than that from the steering gear. If the customer comments that they still hear a noise, it may be a different sound from either the I-shaft or the steering rack.
If the steering column is not identified as the source of the rattle/knocking in the above test, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005C.
Parts Information
Part Number
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15914408
Kit, Steering Column (Cobalt, G5, Pursuit)
Hope this helps someone here.
gm!!!!!!!!! fix my car
Last edited by zzzzzzzz; 05-05-2007 at 03:18 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
05-12-2007, 11:56 AM
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i will have an update on this imfamous clunk proplem sometime next week as they are going to put in a second column............... if this doesnt work i will drive car into chevys showroom floor lol lol lol somebody shoooooootttt me
05-14-2007, 06:49 PM
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Same problem here. They changed so far: axle shaft, steering rack and links. Today I changed the dealer 
. I left the car all day with them, but they said they couldn't figure it out and to bring it back tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.
. I left the car all day with them, but they said they couldn't figure it out and to bring it back tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.
05-15-2007, 07:20 PM
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I got my car back today and they fixed it right! No clunk noise whatsoever! They just changed the axle shaft again. So, aparently, that thing goes bad after a while...It's gonna be fun after the warranty
05-16-2007, 01:37 AM
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i looked it up today and the bulliten says DO NOT REPLACE THE STEERING COLUM, in big bold letters , the intermediate shaft is not greased properly. ask the dealers to look for a bullitin about the inter shaft .i can remember the bulliten date or number
05-16-2007, 03:04 AM
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lol been there done that!!!!!! gm knows there a problem my service tech told me this.
05-26-2007, 06:23 PM
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i took my car in today and described the issue. The service manager came out and told me its a problem with cobalts and HHRs and that it is indeed a design issue with the part. He described the rattle exactly as it is, he ordered me the steering column, it should be in next week.
05-29-2007, 09:28 AM
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2nd steering column
2nd steering column
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ok, they put in another column and it seems alot better, ill only here and feel the clunk, rattle and roll when i hit very bad road
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ok, they put in another column and it seems alot better, ill only here and feel the clunk, rattle and roll when i hit very bad road
06-05-2007, 04:13 PM
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picked up mine today.. steering column replaced problem is gone steering response is alot quicker too now.. does anyone know if they redesigned the part?