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Old 10-14-2015 | 01:24 AM
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TVS Failure? Please help

I haven't been on here in a while. Posted a while back on throwing a 2.8 meth and other mods on my car. Sadly I began having issues with engine noise and after dropping the oil pan several times gave up. I only drive the car once a week or so the past few months.

Today I drove it about 3 miles and the TVS seized causing the belt to fly off. Happened at about 25 mph. Just cruising lightly downtown.

To me this sounds like the snout bearing or something caught in the rotors. I will pull the blower soon and post pics. I would really like some input on what may cause this and where I can get a rebuild kit for the tvs.
The pulley will not spin AT ALL.
Old 10-14-2015 | 12:48 PM
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suck the nozzle thru the TB?
Old 10-14-2015 | 01:50 PM
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suck the nozzle thru the TB?
Sadly no I never installed my pulley injectors or meth. But if for some crazy reason I did suck something up like a part of my eBay catch can how much damage could that cause? Would it ruin the rotors?
I will be posting pics when I get it off tonight.
Old 10-14-2015 | 11:33 PM
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I don't think that's even possible?!

Interested to see what it could be though.
Old 10-14-2015 | 11:45 PM
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I don't think that's even possible?!

Interested to see what it could be though.
Pics soon can't load them from my phone. The coupler is perfect . Gears are perfect. Snout is off and spins fine. Rotors have 95 percent of there coating on the top and bottom. However the side where the TB is they are scuffed fairly bad. There is a large peice of meal crushed between the rotors. They are stuck in the case also. Really hope this is fixable. Not sure where the metal came from yet till I get the pack out.
Old 10-15-2015 | 02:22 PM
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zzp will rebuild it for ya.... i think im going to have to have mine done cuz its making some noises too.
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Will prob need the rotors re-coated at a min to bring back the correct tolerances for optimal efficiency.
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pics of the piece of metal
Old 10-15-2015 | 07:57 PM
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pics of the piece of metal
I will late tonight the phone app won't let me.
I may just go m62 to get mobile until I get this thing rebuilt. Or may rebuild and sell it. I could probably get a decent m62 for 300 or so hopefully.
Old 10-15-2015 | 09:25 PM
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I bet ur aftermarket intake was rubbing by the hole where it goes to the fender
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you always love the power a modded car gives you until something goes wrong, then you question why you molested it to begin with. At least i do...
Old 10-15-2015 | 10:35 PM
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how much for the busted TVS? lol
Old 10-15-2015 | 11:26 PM
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you always love the power a modded car gives you until something goes wrong, then you question why you molested it to begin with. At least i do...
Exactly! I loved the power while it lasted. But right now id be happy slapping a m62 on it. hav to get tuned again though. . . .

what do you guys/gals think of these pics?
anything else i need to modify to put the m62 back?
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Old 10-15-2015 | 11:42 PM
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I bet ur aftermarket intake was rubbing by the hole where it goes to the fender
has this happened before? hmmm i will deff check this out tmorrow
Old 10-16-2015 | 08:13 AM
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how much for the busted TVS? lol
Pm me an offer if interested
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Originally Posted by SSilverSS
has this happened before? hmmm i will deff check this out tmorrow
Not that I know of.... Did you have any ports or anything in the intake?

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you always love the power a modded car gives you until something goes wrong, then you question why you molested it to begin with. At least i do...
All the time when I'm installing something lol.
Old 10-16-2015 | 09:15 AM
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nope no intake work. The peice of metal jammed in there is fairly large. Cannot tell if it came from the side of the case or not. I am told it can be rebuilt but haven't heard back from zzp.
I will be posting it in the classifieds soon just so I can get an m62 and get back rolling
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i have a mint m62 sitting in the garage lmao .....
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Originally Posted by yellowsupercharged06
i have a mint m62 sitting in the garage lmao .....
Do you want to sell it to me?

I'll be re posting a video soon of the noise it was making before it broke. Could be helpful to some. Had several mechanics diagnose as rod knock. . . But no other symptoms and had dropped pan twice to check them. It is what it is. Noise was mostly at idle. A grumbling knock with occasional squeak. So possibly blower needle bearings? The coupler looks good as new. Car ran perfect pulled hard up until failure.

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its guna be pricey cuz its not a POS. Just saying lol PM if you want. Also let me know what you want for the TVS.
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looks like needle bearing failed
Old 10-16-2015 | 11:39 AM
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looks like needle bearing failed
Yea and now I feel like an idiot for chasing engine noise down for months when this was my problem. . .
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Update:
TVS sold to Josh at OTTP. I am waiting for him to send me an m62 and some parts I was told would be shipped asap last week.

Downtime is sucking

So going back with the M62 on a 2.7? Will probably feel pretty good since I wasnt Pushing the TVS. I had no torque lol.

i have a stage two belt and getting an oversize tensioner pulley. I am confused from searching whether or not I need the tensioner pulley with the stage two belt?
Some say they slip some dont?
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Originally Posted by SSilverSS
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TVS sold to Josh at OTTP. I am waiting for him to send me an m62 and some parts I was told would be shipped asap last week.

Downtime is sucking

So going back with the M62 on a 2.7? Will probably feel pretty good since I wasnt Pushing the TVS. I had no torque lol.

i have a stage two belt and getting an oversize tensioner pulley. I am confused from searching whether or not I need the tensioner pulley with the stage two belt?
Some say they slip some dont?
A 2.7 is at the limits of the stage 2 belts "no slip" range, but like you read... some have no issues, and some do.
Old 10-26-2015 | 01:34 PM
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A 2.7 is at the limits of the stage 2 belts "no slip" range, but like you read... some have no issues, and some do.
Ok sweet. So it won't cause any issues to run the bigger tensioner pulley with the stage two belt?



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