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Old 08-11-2012, 06:05 PM
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Excuse me??? Econobox? Not me. Everything manufacturing wise about a Kappa was expensive as **** for GM. You should read some engineering notes sometime. Every company releases them for every car. I actually enjoy reading as many as I can.
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Kappa's are actually well built too.I would love a sky.
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Excuse me??? Econobox? Not me. Everything manufacturing wise about a Kappa was expensive as **** for GM. You should read some engineering notes sometime. Every company releases them for every car. I actually enjoy reading as many as I can.
I don't get what any of this has to do with engineering notes... expensive for GM isn't really a status symbol. And the fastest Solstice/sky still can't even touch the fastest cobalt. Why? I dont know, I am sure its somewhere in those engineering notes.
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What is even sadder is that a FWD Grand Prix by ZZP is faster than anything on this forum.
Old 08-11-2012, 06:24 PM
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What is even sadder is that a FWD Grand Prix by ZZP is faster than anything on this forum.
That is all lmao.6 cyl prolly gutted built fully to the T.yeah makes sense.
Old 08-11-2012, 06:30 PM
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That is all lmao.6 cyl prolly gutted built fully to the T.yeah makes sense.
im not making excuses, just saying its sad. There is a point when a man realizes that that are driving a 4 cylinder car and they no longer view it as a race car. They see something that gets good gas mileage and something that is fun to drive to work. And occasionally can embarrass that average V8 that tries to play with it on occasion. I am at the point, I drive an econobox, if I build the motor and shove a T66 in it... it will still be an econobox. A laggy supra rolling econobox, but still an econobox. That being said there is a place for roadsters, mid life crisis or with a lady in the driver seat.
Old 08-11-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by drewbroo
I don't get what any of this has to do with engineering notes... expensive for GM isn't really a status symbol. And the fastest Solstice/sky still can't even touch the fastest cobalt. Why? I dont know, I am sure its somewhere in those engineering notes.
From a dig, 1/4 mile? You sure about that? I think you should contact Panther then on the Solsticeforum. 886whp 741trq. I'm sure he'll be willing to do a roll...just for you and lets not forget Lipstick(Compound turbo setup). Think before saying such things, Kappa's also sport LS series engines LS7, LS3 and yes even a redline is sporting a LS9 twin turbo 938whp.

What's your definition of fast?

What's your application??? for your vehicle?

Bring the most powerful cobalt to a road track and I'll race him, see where he sits then. Hell I'll even throw my buddy in with his S2000 with his pathetic 210whp and watch him destroy you in your GTI and the Snowbalt. 2 months ago I saw my buddy(S2000) at Willow Springs take out a GT-R AMS tuned 630whp. To make it even funnier he loved tapped the GT-R in the back to get out of his way because the dude had to much pride to be taken by a little S2000. If your just street racing and doing it for fun then cool. I seriously want to hear your answer to my questions for you though.

As for the engineering notes, Drew your loosing me here with the mocking. Yea, I LIKE READING ABOUT DIFFERENT CARS, their engines, suspension geometry, chasis, why the company felt like building such a car etc. Anything mechanical is of great interest to me. I'm an engineering enthusiast.

I'm also 27, still got aways to hit my mid-life crisis. Lady's do like the roadster though, especially my girl, who drives an NSX.

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Old 08-11-2012, 06:39 PM
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Okay,seems like you know what you want lol.Enjoy what you drive...or move on.We are enjoying what we have bought/built.If you do not enjoy what you have bought,buy something else to make you happy...like a prius. lol
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Originally Posted by drewbroo
No one wins, we all drive shitty econoboxes except for one dude with a Z06 in here.
I dont drive an econobox
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No your car is a econorectangle if you really think about it.
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Its a nonecoshitbox
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:53 PM
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Well look on not trying to **** Drew off or anything, I think he just took my honest "opinion" of VW's cause of my "EXPERIENCE" with my GLi as more of an attack.


Does this mean I think that VW's are ****? **** no. Look Drew, the Dub makes you happy, good thats what matters. The realization you were talking about about looking at a 4 cylinder as a gas saver and something fun to drive to work..........tada "GLI". That happened 2 years years ago. The Sky is a 4 too, but if I have this REALIZATION, I can always throw a V8 in and be "With the big boys" now or heck just get a Z06(my next car).
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Or a Prius!!!
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lets stop getting chapped here....



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Old 08-11-2012, 07:02 PM
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I actually like those seats lol
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in a prius!
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HAHAHA, ok yes in a Prius
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Originally Posted by 40rty
From a dig, 1/4 mile? You sure about that? I think you should contact Panther then on the Solsticeforum. 886whp 741trq. I'm sure he'll be willing to do a roll...just for you and lets not forget Lipstick(Compound turbo setup). Think before saying such things, Kappa's also sport LS series engines LS7, LS3 and yes even a redline is sporting a LS9 twin turbo 938whp.

What's your definition of fast?

What's your application??? for your vehicle?

Bring the most powerful cobalt to a road track and I'll race him, see where he sits then. Hell I'll even throw my buddy in with his S2000 with his pathetic 210whp and watch him destroy you in your GTI and the Snowbalt. 2 months ago I saw my buddy(S2000) at Willow Springs take out a GT-R AMS tuned 630whp. To make it even funnier he loved tapped the GT-R in the back to get out of his way because the dude had to much pride to be taken by a little S2000. If your just street racing and doing it for fun then cool. I seriously want to hear your answer to my questions for you though.

As for the engineering notes, Drew your loosing me here with the mocking. Yea, I LIKE READING ABOUT DIFFERENT CARS, their engines, suspension geometry, chasis, why the company felt like building such a car etc. Anything mechanical is of great interest to me. I'm an engineering enthusiast.

I'm also 27, still got aways to hit my mid-life crisis. Lady's do like the roadster though, especially my girl, who drives an NSX.
Are you aware the fastest Cobalt runs low 8's.....
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Are you aware a prius runs 20's!
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Are you aware a prius runs 20's!
Wasn't aware, but I sure know that when I see them on the highway they are always hauling the mail.

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Old 08-11-2012, 07:26 PM
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That's because they get a cazillion mpg's and run 20's....IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
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Originally Posted by 40rty
From a dig, 1/4 mile? You sure about that? I think you should contact Panther then on the Solsticeforum. 886whp 741trq. I'm sure he'll be willing to do a roll...just for you and lets not forget Lipstick(Compound turbo setup). Think before saying such things, Kappa's also sport LS series engines LS7, LS3 and yes even a redline is sporting a LS9 twin turbo 938whp.

What's your definition of fast?

What's your application??? for your vehicle?

Bring the most powerful cobalt to a road track and I'll race him, see where he sits then. Hell I'll even throw my buddy in with his S2000 with his pathetic 210whp and watch him destroy you in your GTI and the Snowbalt. 2 months ago I saw my buddy(S2000) at Willow Springs take out a GT-R AMS tuned 630whp. To make it even funnier he loved tapped the GT-R in the back to get out of his way because the dude had to much pride to be taken by a little S2000. If your just street racing and doing it for fun then cool. I seriously want to hear your answer to my questions for you though.

As for the engineering notes, Drew your loosing me here with the mocking. Yea, I LIKE READING ABOUT DIFFERENT CARS, their engines, suspension geometry, chasis, why the company felt like building such a car etc. Anything mechanical is of great interest to me. I'm an engineering enthusiast.

I'm also 27, still got aways to hit my mid-life crisis. Lady's do like the roadster though, especially my girl, who drives an NSX.
And for a road course I would just be in a Z06 and call it a day stock. And believe it or not I have had a few roadsters myself. I even owned the ultimate bitch car, a miata. I built that car for the sebring long course when I lived in florida. And it had a V8Roadsters LS6 swap w/ a CTS-V Tranny. Im just calling things how I see them, and I have a friend in a nearly stock yaris that would rape your friends S2K around a track with his pathetic lil 4cyl. (Hes also one of the best drivers I know and has dont the 1 lap of America every year for the past 5 years.) He now sports a Z4 though. I do 1/4 mile now mainly because that is all I have time for. Owning your own business and being a stay at home dad, leaves little time to dial my car in for every track event. I dont even have time for AutoX anymore.... If you knew me you would know that every car I have I do something different with. Whether its a 2871 powered 2 door LNF, or just making my 4 door run 12's with just a tune and E85 here @ 3200 ft of elevation. Ive had 2 miatas and blew one up and bought the 2nd one blown up so I could shoehorn an LS6 in there.

The VW was just to be a fast commuter, I am sure if I took it to a road course I would surprise a lot of people. (Stock suspension is pretty good on an MK6) Just dont have the time or money for it anymore. I go to Inde all the time, but its because I am paid by the Porsche club and the local stock car group. I dont drive my car around the track when I can drive a friends stock car when I want. I dont even know what we are arguing about right now, but it just seems like you are trying to insult my intelligence and say you will pwn3d any fwd car on the track. And I may be coming off as an *******... because well I am one. Ask anybody.
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In a van down by the river!!!!!!Trollolololollolol
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Originally Posted by 1LowLS
In a van down by the river!!!!!!Trollolololollolol
steve you are not very good at trolling. Correct trolling would require that in all caps to indicate yelling.


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