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Old 06-13-2009 | 09:45 PM
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we'll see rusty. wait till i get home. i don't know if i want to put the CF trunk on right away.
ud better.lol. I dnt wanna pay 350 just to go wingless.lol.
Old 06-14-2009 | 02:35 AM
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no he said all the shops said it was illegal i dont know anything about exhaust ill see exactly what he wants to do btw his car is SC
Old 06-14-2009 | 07:31 PM
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If you're talking about the downpipe then yes, it is illegal and most reputable exhaust shops will not risk getting caught removing the catalytic converter. They can face potentially huge fines and have the possibility of getting their shop shut down for a certain amount of time if caught removing an emissions control device. Most shops won't even install an aftermarket downpipe that has uses an aftermarket high flow cat because that also is against the law to remove the stock cat if the car is still under factory emission system warranty. If he really wants to install one then he'll need to buy one online (more than likely from a company out of state) and then install it by him self or maybe find another owner or someone to give him a hand.
Old 06-14-2009 | 07:51 PM
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whoa E...lol where did u come from haha how have u been
Old 06-15-2009 | 01:09 AM
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no he said all the shops said it was illegal i dont know anything about exhaust ill see exactly what he wants to do btw his car is SC
Yea IMO strait pipe on a ss/sc sounds like **** but thats just me.Technically an exhaust with no mufflers is also illegal if he is in fact talking about the exhust and not dp. You will have to find an exhaust shop who dnt give a ****.lol
Old 06-15-2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MarqueDo7BabyBalt
whoa E...lol where did u come from haha how have u been
Really busy with work. Getting ready to head "overseas" to a little "sandbox" for a few months.



Originally Posted by {TEAM ADRENALINE}
Yea IMO strait pipe on a ss/sc sounds like **** but thats just me.Technically an exhaust with no mufflers is also illegal if he is in fact talking about the exhust and not dp. You will have to find an exhaust shop who dnt give a ****.lol
I'm not a big fan either. It might be worth a few hp across the curve, but on a street driven four-banger you end up with an annoying, loud amount of noise more than anything. But you sure can have an exhaust without mufflers such as if you have a resonator or a turbo (which the Federal government considers a muffler by the way), but here in California you'll more than likely push the noise limit without one. Even if you have a car that squeaks under the decibel limit without a muffler you're sure to get a lot of extra attention from people with ticket books that can make your life less fun and cost you time and money to prove it's legal.
Old 06-15-2009 | 03:52 PM
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oh really dam..well be careful man and when will u be back
Old 06-15-2009 | 10:46 PM
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Really busy with work. Getting ready to head "overseas" to a little "sandbox" for a few months.



I'm not a big fan either. It might be worth a few hp across the curve, but on a street driven four-banger you end up with an annoying, loud amount of noise more than anything. But you sure can have an exhaust without mufflers such as if you have a resonator or a turbo (which the Federal government considers a muffler by the way), but here in California you'll more than likely push the noise limit without one. Even if you have a car that squeaks under the decibel limit without a muffler you're sure to get a lot of extra attention from people with ticket books that can make your life less fun and cost you time and money to prove it's legal.
i know all about that.lol
Old 06-15-2009 | 11:34 PM
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Meet pics are up in the thread, someone should use them to make their own thread.
Old 06-15-2009 | 11:45 PM
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i has an exahust shop that will do it
Old 06-16-2009 | 03:44 PM
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here guys..track meet...Track meet
Old 06-17-2009 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Omnigear
i has an exahust shop that will do it
could you pm me the number so i can give it to my friend?

also on another note im freakin excited i found a dealer in pasadena that will work with me on getting my camaro and will except my gm discount woohoo
Old 06-17-2009 | 02:02 PM
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My dad drove my truck back down to SoCal and "something" happened to get attached to the rear of it about mid way down here.



Old 06-17-2009 | 02:13 PM
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What's that "something"?

And did you ever get the chance to post the pics you took from the Speedway?
Old 06-17-2009 | 03:07 PM
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Thanks for the reminder. I ran across the speedway pics the other day but didn't get a chance to upload them. I'll try to get a batch of them posted in the next day or two when I can find a spare five minutes in my schedule.

That something is another W41 Quad 4-powered car, or more specifically one of these ( <-- youtube vid). There's also a nice overview article at this link. Not many people remember that nearly twenty years ago GM built a naturally-aspirated, 190hp four-banger that also had a good amount of torque.

I bought this car as a replacement daily driver for the Fiero which will probably get sold. Once I get back from overseas I can hopefully pick up another house closer to where I'm working and drive the Cobalt and Focus a little more often.
Old 06-17-2009 | 04:49 PM
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the shop is in ontario,cali
just that if u get caught,
he has no knowledge of the work.

R & A Mufflers
5521 Holt Blvd
Montclair, CA 91763-4559
Call: (909) 933-9090

tell em ryan with the red cobalt sent u
Old 06-17-2009 | 08:28 PM
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Anyone know any Socal shops that do water meth injection? Like installing it and etccc.
Old 06-17-2009 | 09:16 PM
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It's pretty easy, what kit did you get?
Old 06-17-2009 | 11:56 PM
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a cave man can do it ^_^
Old 06-18-2009 | 05:37 PM
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Haven't bought a kit yet but was just heavily considering it lol. Was looking at Drag times and a Solstice GXP ran a 12.0 1/4 mile with the stock turbo, water meth injection, hptuners, magnaflow exhaust. So sort of makes me want to get it for my GXP.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Sol...lip-16651.html

I know the guy is a tuner himself but seems like Water Meth would rape lol.
Old 06-18-2009 | 08:48 PM
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depends on the mix and how aggressive the tune is
Old 06-18-2009 | 11:13 PM
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methanol/water injection is fantastic.

as much as they battle and disagree, if you can figure out who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't, then read between the lines, you can learn a lot in threads like this:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/tuning-131/how-much-whp-wtq-can-you-get-meth-175915/
Old 06-19-2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
methanol/water injection is fantastic.

as much as they battle and disagree, if you can figure out who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't, then read between the lines, you can learn a lot in threads like this:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=175915
if ur **** doesnt run out mid WOT.

it's the only thing i'm scared of with water/meth.
Old 06-19-2009 | 01:16 PM
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5galon tank =p

if there is a tank you can mount above
the trunk ceiling strap it up and not make the
back droop it would save space on the floor sspace
to fill it up will be the pain because you have to unstrap it and
fill it.
Old 06-19-2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mnatvyc1223
if ur **** doesnt run out mid WOT.

it's the only thing i'm scared of with water/meth.
y not install a guage in the h20/meth tank...then u will always know how much u have left


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