So Cal Chat
10-01-2009 | 03:55 AM
#4826
The ST was nice for those wanting a sedan. Many of the Focus community didn't take too kindly to the '05 cars when Ford pawned off a cheap refresh while Europe got an all-new car. The 2.3L Duratec in the ST is a great engine and they used some of the SVT suspension bits in the car, but Ford dropped the ball in overall performance compared to the older cars.
Basically everything I'd want to do to my other one has been done to this car. Should be pretty fun. It's already dyno'd much higher than both my SS and SRT-4.
Basically everything I'd want to do to my other one has been done to this car. Should be pretty fun. It's already dyno'd much higher than both my SS and SRT-4.
i also want to see a quick ass svt
10-01-2009 | 05:32 PM
#4827
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From: Boston & SoCal
I was able to dig up a few of the really old vids of the car. This first one was right after the first owner picked up the car. I still remember it for some comments about his girlfriend in the front seat, bashing against the rev limiter and not hitting the gears and all. 
The power numbers were on an initial (poor) tune and some additional modifications ended up going on the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLkctQvuEY
Back when the SVT first came out a bunch of the SoCal Focus owners used to hit up the tracks a lot. These are some of the cars going more than a the straight line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekD5McPAHIU
And here's one being filmed from my car and keeping up with an Evo. It would still pull a little int he straights but on a tight track AWD really isn't automatically the best. Oh, and by the way, this was when the car was still naturally aspirated...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFD9L_pc6XM
A different SVT (modified but still N/A) chasing down a few higher end cars on the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1HuJ-DKbQM
This one is a highway run in an SVT with the same Vortech kit that's on my car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipWtWLbDpEw
For the drag racers, here's the C-F-M ZX3 with the base Zetec running a Vortech kit and doing a 12-second run. I think they got it down to mid-12's on that car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaguwi0p9Rk
And just a couple other random ones that showed up while searching.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...-the_75171.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/s...4-at_72206.htm
There's also a built ZX3 over in Vegas years ago that used to be an HKS car and it's run 10's numerous times. Not sure what ever happened to it or if it's still in the region.
The power numbers were on an initial (poor) tune and some additional modifications ended up going on the car.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLkctQvuEY
Back when the SVT first came out a bunch of the SoCal Focus owners used to hit up the tracks a lot. These are some of the cars going more than a the straight line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekD5McPAHIU
And here's one being filmed from my car and keeping up with an Evo. It would still pull a little int he straights but on a tight track AWD really isn't automatically the best. Oh, and by the way, this was when the car was still naturally aspirated...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFD9L_pc6XM
A different SVT (modified but still N/A) chasing down a few higher end cars on the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1HuJ-DKbQM
This one is a highway run in an SVT with the same Vortech kit that's on my car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipWtWLbDpEw
For the drag racers, here's the C-F-M ZX3 with the base Zetec running a Vortech kit and doing a 12-second run. I think they got it down to mid-12's on that car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaguwi0p9Rk
And just a couple other random ones that showed up while searching.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...-the_75171.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/s...4-at_72206.htm
There's also a built ZX3 over in Vegas years ago that used to be an HKS car and it's run 10's numerous times. Not sure what ever happened to it or if it's still in the region.
Last edited by blackbird; 10-01-2009 at 05:58 PM. Reason: speeligg probleme
10-01-2009 | 09:59 PM
#4832
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10-02-2009 | 01:51 AM
#4837
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Correct. You may want one but definitely don't need one. Alky injection works great for some cars like the LSJ, but look at what it does for you. The main purpose is for extra fueling and/or to help cool the charge temps to reduce the chance of knocking/detonation. Unless you go completely wild and throw a massive turbo on the car the stock direct injection system is more than capable of meeting the demands of a stock turbo's airflow capability.
On the issue of intake charge temps the direct injection system already minimizes the chance of knock developing since there isn't fuel in the chamber until the spark is ready to be fired (and if you don't have fuel you can't have knock). If you were injecting methanol or another fuel it wouldn't surprise me if you saw more knock is you were pushing everything to the ragged edges. It would be hard to say for certain without data logging though.
Now on a convention port-delivered fuel setup and a car with hot charge temps like what come off an M62 in the LSJ is can be helpful. But to maximize gains you need to custom tune the engine management to take advantage of the properties of the alcohol. Meaning you might lean the car out or increase ignition timing. This might net some nice gains but if the injection pump goes out or a nozzle clogs you have a much greater chance of hurting the engine, especially as the cylinder pressures increase (such as what happens with high boost and/or high compression engines).
On the issue of intake charge temps the direct injection system already minimizes the chance of knock developing since there isn't fuel in the chamber until the spark is ready to be fired (and if you don't have fuel you can't have knock). If you were injecting methanol or another fuel it wouldn't surprise me if you saw more knock is you were pushing everything to the ragged edges. It would be hard to say for certain without data logging though.
Now on a convention port-delivered fuel setup and a car with hot charge temps like what come off an M62 in the LSJ is can be helpful. But to maximize gains you need to custom tune the engine management to take advantage of the properties of the alcohol. Meaning you might lean the car out or increase ignition timing. This might net some nice gains but if the injection pump goes out or a nozzle clogs you have a much greater chance of hurting the engine, especially as the cylinder pressures increase (such as what happens with high boost and/or high compression engines).
10-02-2009 | 11:39 PM
#4838
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well my friends.... wish me luck as i attempt to trade the balt tomorrow.... im going to a dealership with a 04 z06 and im going to another dealership that has a evo x....
if i make the trade... i will post a huge picture on here and start a new thread... wish me luck!
if i make the trade... i will post a huge picture on here and start a new thread... wish me luck!
10-02-2009 | 11:48 PM
#4841
what ever feels right, RWD or AWD hmmmmm
both? haha u know some kid will want the cobalt tell his mom ooooo a hot wheel
so the dealer will have to give u a free vette & evo x this is realistic thinking
both? haha u know some kid will want the cobalt tell his mom ooooo a hot wheel
so the dealer will have to give u a free vette & evo x this is realistic thinking
10-03-2009 | 12:17 AM
#4843
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Either choice wouldn't be bad and both have pro and cons. With those type of cars on a used car lot you won't get service history so I'd probably run the VIN at the service department at a GM/Mitsu dealer to make sure they weren't a basket case.
I was just at the Chevy dealer earlier tonight. Was out with my parents who are in town visiting and stopped to check out one of the last four '09 SS sedans in the region. Not too bad and even more of a sleeper. Might have to pick one up some day.
I was just at the Chevy dealer earlier tonight. Was out with my parents who are in town visiting and stopped to check out one of the last four '09 SS sedans in the region. Not too bad and even more of a sleeper. Might have to pick one up some day.