It's not nice to exclude people.

 

We're not excluding people Eric and i are just kind of taking the reigns of SCE because the original leadership is gone. Someone has the do it, and if you want it by all means go ahead, but nobody else was, and i talked to Eric and Aaron to help me get it rolling because they seem to be the most enthusiastic about re-starting the club.

Too many chiefs and no indians...

David has already done some awesome stuff with the shirts, and getting a few decals made. If he wants he can be our official marketing guy

For sure man, i may have another school field trip for school, but sunday i'm always down.

 

I'm just saying it's looking like only a certain few ppl will be organizing the meets...and that will get SUPER boring.

 

Marketing guy haha Im gonna get a SCE costume and stand on a street corner lol

 

We posted earlier that all the meets will be voted on. Nobody is making the decisions alone. There has to be some kind of set leadership though because the way it's going now is obviously not working.

Someone will be in charge of setting up meet threads, collecting ideas from the members and posting. I think we should have shirts, and some tasteful decals. Of course it will all be put to a vote, and decided on by you guys. I am thinking of asking someone to set SoCalEcotecs.net back up, and possibly paying a small monthly, or annual due to help out with site fees and food etc for the meets. I want to be serious about this. It's going to be exclusive. People won't just automatically be members just because they know about the club. I think the issue is that there is no local unity, nothing to call ourselves, so there isn't any appeal.

If you don't like how we are moving, make some constructive criticism, or suggestions. I want to bring SCE back, but i would like to keep it exclusive, at some point i want to set up some rules, levels of membership, leadership positions etc.

As the marketing guy, you do what you think is necessary David

 

you guys are going thru the same thing "we" did on a local level. if every one stays level headed thru this, and every one gets input on this, it'll rock when your done.

its worth hashing things out, honest!

we did it here and the meets and events we do have gotten WAYYY better.

plus, the people with the most free time / connections to places tend to come to the surface during things like this.

hell, we had one local couple who wanted nothing more then to set up meets, while me on the other hand wouldn't have time in a million years to lay something out.

 

Thank you Bryan!

this is exactly what i mean. Someone in charge of setting up the meet structure. Someone to be the club treasurer. Someone to maintain the website. Marketing for David

Someone to keep it all on track. I have a vision for where i want the club to be, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

Damn this isn't a multi-million dollar company here...we don't need ppl in certain positions.

 

It's not for profit. Structure makes things work smoothly. Chaos sucks. Marisa, help out here, please don't be negative.

 

I know it's not for profit, just seems uneccessarily complicated.

 

I agree will

I think the organization will be a great idea

 

Well, what's your suggestion ot make it uncomplicated? By dividing the responsibilities, it's actually more streamlined. That way one or two people are not swamped with trying to keep the club organized. If you don't want to be part of it, nobody is forcing you.

I decided to bring the club back. I was only a member for a short time before it just kinda dissolved. This is how i want to go about doing it.

I just don't understand why you seem to be so against this. I would have thought you'd be all for it. The turnout is dwindling, and we have a lot of new members on this site in the local area, and i want their meets experiences to be positive. What's wrong with that?

 

I just think it's a new idea that atleast we could try to do... Cuz right now everything is goin down

 

Not everyone likes the extreme exclusivity of clubs, and I know not everyone will want to pay dues(me included). Whoever is assigned to whatever "duty" may not always be able to do their part, and then what? Someone else will have to do it, which makes the whole relegated responsibilities pointless. Too much structure will make it seem like a job, if it's supposed to be fun, it shouldn't be run like a corporation. Too much organization gets stressful, I thought car meets were supposed to be fun get togethers, not rigid meetings that have to be approved by a commitee first. If I'm wrong with the way I feel this will go, then hopefully time will disprove it.

 

Wow, you are putting waaaaay too much thought into this Marisa. Relax a little. It's not gonna be rigid, just some structure. and like i said, if you don't agree with it, make helpful suggestions, or just don't join.

 

I probably won't, until I see that it actually works.

 

That's perfectly fine, nobody is going to be told they have to join if they want to show up. Certain things cost money, and it would suck if one person were stuck with the burden.

 

this is the way I see what's gonna happen...meet attendance is gonna stay the same nothing is going to change.

why? even if the meets are chosen by voting there will always be people that don't agree and they won't show up. Then there's the issue with people working or are busy.

I think that's the reason why there are a lot of meets lately because of that. Some meets suit others or it fits in their time schedule.

It's a good idea to have some more structure but my opinion I don't think it'll get attract more people to the meets unless it happens to appeal to every single person and fits in their schedule.

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/south-pacific-57/socalecotecs-organization-thread-207483/

good points David, and it's something i think is important we address.

I just remember how active SoCalEcotecs used to be, ad i would like to bring it back to what it was.

I'm open to suggestions, i'm open to thoughts. If you don't like certain aspects, we can work on them.

I just know that when i was in the army, the units with strong structure, and organization were a hell of a lot more fun, and far better as far as leadership, and the subordinates were concerned. I'm not saying members are subordinates, but i remember moral was so much higher in the units with strong leadership and organization. There were less profiles, less unexcused absences etc. -This is just an example.

 

Yeah like I was TRYING to say, organization doesn't necessarily mean it will be successful.

 

But not doing anything will keep it unsuccessful me and will and quite a few others on here know how important structure is. But with structure there needs to be good leadership I am more than willing to step up to some leadership roles and I have plenty of experience in those roles my free time is limited though but like will said no one is saying anyone has to join but either way there is going to be SCE turing into a club or possibly something new coming up

 

Im in Will. put me where needed.

 

let's say you have tons of structure and great leadership. that doesn't mean that people will show because of that you still got to cater to everyone's needs which can never happen. idk I guess there's only one way to find out

 

im on rissa's side. I see nothing wrong with the way everything has been going on for the last couple years...and dont see a need for this level of organization.

 

Yeah or having leaders...I don't want to have to ask permission to do anything as far as meets are concerned.