its what the tech at the school told me so i have not seen it in writing but you could try putting it in and see if they even check. just remember i have my stocker available to any local to borrow if they need it to get their ticket signed off

 

where does it say that the silencer have to be welded though?
if the sae/bar/cvc states that it needs to be welded then i have to
do it =(


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Originally Posted by Subyroo2.5 View Post
how would he know that it was louder than 95db? He pulled me over for illegal exhaust. he told me that its illegal to modify your exhaust from stock period. He cited me for the 27151a and didn't say anything about the loudness this is why i am suspect.
Law enforcement misinterprets the law all the time. Modifications and replacements are entirely different things.

Modification of an exhaust system is defined in the VC as an exhaust system being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle.

A replacement is not considered a modification. The exhaust system just needs to comply with 27150 and 27151(b) and those are:

27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. <~ Here is the state's definition of modifications.

27151(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, non-original exhaust equipment. <~ IN OTHER WORDS, AFTERMARKET PARTS AND SYSTEMS.

Cops say our exhaust systems are illegal, but as you can see, the vehicle code clearly states otherwise.

Oh and mufflers have absolutely nothing to do with the vehicle's emissions. It's name defines it's purpose.

w00t found my way out ^_^
/gg
call me ***** ****** matloc bitches

 

ya cops are dumb most the time haha its like religion they make up their own interpretation i think theres a limit too the rpms where they test it ive heard it has to be 3500 and less than 95db but thats hear say

 

im not goin to the ref to fight this ticket, imma use the mod/replace argument and take pictures to show that my **** have no cut off, that i have a muffler/resonator = win if not
then imma go get a new trial and go to the ref and pay 100+ to get a damn cert
that last for a year.

 

the ref is free

 

nope its not free as of may 19 if you pass it is 100+ if oyu fail
then its free. well thats what i got from the socal subie forum
im lookin for the source for that claim.

http://jalopnik.com/5554704/550hp-tu...-any-questions

 

well i got reffed last nov i think and it was free then so things may have changed since then

 

the ref is $8.25 if you pass, if you fail it's free

 

hmm i was told it was free regardless but things may have changed

 

have done it twice in 2 years. it's not expensive for the inspection, but if you have a **** load of parts you cant take off yourself then it gets expensive. it's just a tedious process.

 

do you kno about the silencer needed to be welded? im lookin at carb and the sae website n didnt find anything imma start diggin in dmv

 

ive only done it once for noise

 

i only been to chaffey when i got my smog ticket, but i didnt pass so i went with a different route to fighting my ticket.

 

wouldnt know for sure. i do know that if it comes with a silencer it needs to be installed, most exhausts that have a silencer can be screwed in which should be ok

 

ya i asked the tech if we could re test with the silencer and he said it had to be welded in since i could just take it out later

 

he should have a reference to that rule on paper then. the dude sounds like he's just pulling something out of his ass

 

idk i heard something about the silencer needed to b welded but i cant find a damn source.
imma call the bar tomm n ask wtfx

 

apparently its in the law now too

 

44062. The Vehicle Inspection Fund and the Automotive Repair Fund
are hereby abolished. The balances in those funds are hereby
transferred to the Vehicle Inspection and Repair Fund.
All fees collected by the department under this chapter and
Chapter 20.3 (commencing with Section 9880) of Division 3 of the
Business and Professions Code shall be deposited in the Vehicle
Inspection and Repair Fund and are available to the department as
specified by Section 9886.2 of the Business and Professions Code.


lawlz

9886.2. The money in the Vehicle Inspection and Repair Fund
necessary for the administration of this chapter and Chapter 5
(commencing with Section 44000) of Part 5 of Division 26 of the
Health and Safety Code is available to the department, when
appropriated for those purposes.

couldnt find how much is it from the
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
website

 

since i need to get my ticket sign off and prove of the muffler being "fixed" do i need to drive to Westminster to get the ticket signed off?

its a fix it ticket for loud muffler

 

joey id reccomend putting mine on in that situation that way its nice and quiet when they sign it off

 

did u look up the vc and what it states? if u got it in la county i think u need to do it in that same county.

 

haha yea i hada pay cause i passed but dunno how much it was and i had a silence in my muffler and it wasnt welded in it was bolted in you can take the silencer out and adjust the tip it was a ractive n1 style

 

do you happen to remember if its 3 digits or two digits?

 

you mean 20.00 or 100.00? haha i dont remember sorry man but i passed and thats all i cared about the guy after me had a heavily modded wrx and i was like haha good luck homie he had a turbo swap and front mount and everything