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Old 02-19-2009 | 06:59 PM
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B&G coilover problems on TC!!!

I have an 09 TC and the B&G RS2 coilovers are knocking around. When I turn to the L and R something knocks in the front end. Only after purchase and install did I hear that there are problems with this kit fitting the 08 and 09 TC's. It is advertised that it fits and it clearly does not. During install I even called B&G with the GM tech present and we were told it was installed properly.

I really need help from anyone who has has problems with this as well on the 08/09's. Please give all information/intel you have with this issue if you know what is wrong and what things you have tried to fix the problem. What is making the noise? What is breaking? etc... I need to gather this info to help me/us get this addressed.

Please only responses with specific info and/or experiences with this on 08/09 TC's!

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Old 02-19-2009 | 07:03 PM
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What doesn't fit right?
Old 02-19-2009 | 07:06 PM
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clearance issue with wheel maybe?
Old 02-19-2009 | 07:23 PM
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Thats what I'm trying to find out....all I know is it's knocking turning both ways. I know a couple of people said they knew what was wrong but I can't remember and I'm trying to gather it up here and get more info. The vendor I bought it from is doing a ton helping me as he was unaware there were issues. I need detailed info please!
Old 02-19-2009 | 08:58 PM
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pm me your email. I will send you my emails to b&g on my problems. they have pics and everything.

I bought mine from gravana. From day one I had popping noises from the frt. end (I'm a master ase/nissan tech with gtr certs). I removed and installed the coilovers multiple times. everything was torqued to gm specs. I drove the car for 3 weeks hoping the noise would go away. then BAM I broke a sway bar link. the problem is the frt. sway bar is much stiffer on the ss/tc causing the mounting point to twist and make noise until it rotates so much that the sway bar link breaks! (50.00 from gm x3 times...) there is to much play where the susp bearing sits on the coilover spring hat which also makes noise. I had to put a zip tie inside the bearing and smash it down onto the hat to get that noise to stop. I tried everything that mike migs at B&G said. I also heard noise in the rear. on inspection I found that the shocks were rubbing the lower susp. member. I had to shime with washers to stop it from rubbing. I also had spring noises from the rear. (I was told to go to home depo find some rubber/foam to quiet spring noise) 1400.00 susp and I need to go to home depo.......................................

3 months after fighting with b&g I finally went back to gravana because Mike Migs wouldn't stand behide his product. Ryan at gravana did his best and was able to give me store credit......

I get an email from gravana with a link to sukxost thread about how his b&g coilovers are working great. (as a kind of slap in the face email) AND THE BAMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! Look at the problems his having now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will never do Bis. with b&g and gravana (after the e-mail you sent me ryan)

Sukxost. I have all my emails and info on my problems let me know what you need!
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:03 PM
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yeah gravana fucked over one of our local SS Turbo guys by saying a certain wheel fit...in the end it did not fit at all and after many email all they would do is give store credit...**** that ****.
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:04 PM
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That sucks bro I hope you get it figured out.
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:16 PM
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Thanks for the info King! VERY helpful. I sent you my email in a PM. WORST part is I already sold my stock struts to a buddy back in WA so I can't even take this off til I get something new. UGH Paying for install....then de-install...then install AGAIN of something new/different is gonna cost me a ******* TON!
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:21 PM
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ya...sorry its already installed on my car (THANKS BTW :P)
if all else fails, take the stock stuff off your ss/sc and put it on the tc till you can get it figured out
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:26 PM
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I COULD do that but I'm trying to sell the SC and that's kinda not the point ya know.
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:30 PM
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bummer man... hope it gets fixed
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:34 PM
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Thanks man. I somehow agree
Old 02-20-2009 | 12:00 AM
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FYI... Just so the post doesn't stray off topic about something else... Brandon purchased the coilovers through me back in Dec. I'll be watching this and will do what I can to help out.

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Old 02-20-2009 | 12:24 AM
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hmm i had a set on my balt, have you checked the swaybar endlinks? something on the front struts might be loose, the strut tower nuts or the big nut on the strut tower. I found mine were loose.
Old 02-20-2009 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonaudio
FYI... Just so the post doesn't stray off topic about something else... Brandon purchased the coilovers through me back in Dec. I'll be watching this and will do what I can to help out.

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Mike won't be of much help as he didn't do anything for me... nor would they back their product.
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:12 AM
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your swaybar endlink is rubbing on the very bottom of your coilover tower....mine did it...i fixed mine...i dont know how you guys supension is setup but is the sway bar mount adjustable?? if so you need to adjust it till it stops....it will be a time consuming process but its what has to be done if the bar mount is adjustable...it has nothing to do with the sway bar stiffness...
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:16 AM
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new, better edlinks that can move with your suspension, and hopefully eliminate this problem.
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rallyracer
yeah gravana fucked over one of our local SS Turbo guys by saying a certain wheel fit...in the end it did not fit at all and after many email all they would do is give store credit...**** that ****.
That's me. I also got the "Oh you must be doing wrong" thing from them. I was told that another model from the same manufacturer fit so the ones I had should fit too. I had to point out to Ryan that they had test fit the wheels and confirmed they fit on the forums with plenty of clearance.

I was planning on getting the RS2's. Now I'm out even more money and forced to buy **** I don't want. Awesome.

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Old 02-20-2009 | 12:08 PM
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pm me your email. I will send you my emails to b&g on my problems. they have pics and everything.

I bought mine from gravana. From day one I had popping noises from the frt. end (I'm a master ase/nissan tech with gtr certs). I removed and installed the coilovers multiple times. everything was torqued to gm specs. I drove the car for 3 weeks hoping the noise would go away. then BAM I broke a sway bar link. the problem is the frt. sway bar is much stiffer on the ss/tc causing the mounting point to twist and make noise until it rotates so much that the sway bar link breaks! (50.00 from gm x3 times...) there is to much play where the susp bearing sits on the coilover spring hat which also makes noise. I had to put a zip tie inside the bearing and smash it down onto the hat to get that noise to stop. I tried everything that mike migs at B&G said. I also heard noise in the rear. on inspection I found that the shocks were rubbing the lower susp. member. I had to shime with washers to stop it from rubbing. I also had spring noises from the rear. (I was told to go to home depo find some rubber/foam to quiet spring noise) 1400.00 susp and I need to go to home depo.......................................

3 months after fighting with b&g I finally went back to gravana because Mike Migs wouldn't stand behide his product. Ryan at gravana did his best and was able to give me store credit......

I get an email from gravana with a link to sukxost thread about how his b&g coilovers are working great. (as a kind of slap in the face email) AND THE BAMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! Look at the problems his having now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will never do Bis. with b&g and gravana (after the e-mail you sent me ryan)

Sukxost. I have all my emails and info on my problems let me know what you need!
The email was not intended to be a "slap in the face," I just thought you would be interested to see it... After all the times we talked I would have thought you would know I am not the type to do something like that... I tried to handle the situation as best as we could and make you happy.

Originally Posted by rallyracer
yeah gravana fucked over one of our local SS Turbo guys by saying a certain wheel fit...in the end it did not fit at all and after many email all they would do is give store credit...**** that ****.
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That's me. I also got the "Oh you must be doing wrong" thing from them. I was told that another model from the same manufacturer fit so the ones I had should fit too. I had to point out to Ryan that they had test fit the wheels and confirmed they fit on the forums with plenty of clearance.

I was planning on getting the RS2's. Now I'm out even more money and forced to buy **** I don't want. Awesome.
I don't want to turn this into an internet pissing match so I will keep this short... You were informed fully about both the wheels and the center caps before hand. We have clear cut policies as well on our site. I appreciate that you followed my repeated insistence to fit them again, because that is what was suggested to us. The wheels ended up getting scratched as you said (on the second attempt to fit that we did tell you to do), but we still took them back. Normally in this situation we would not have taken them back at all OR given you any store credit. We did both. Please do not feel pressured to get the RS2's, or any product you do not want. Your store credit will not expire.

We want our customers to be satisfied so if you either of you are looking for something additional, let me know and I will give you a killer deal.

Thanks,

Ryan
Old 02-20-2009 | 04:36 PM
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The email was not intended to be a "slap in the face," I just thought you would be interested to see it... After all the times we talked I would have thought you would know I am not the type to do something like that... I tried to handle the situation as best as we could and make you happy.





I don't want to turn this into an internet pissing match so I will keep this short... You were informed fully about both the wheels and the center caps before hand. We have clear cut policies as well on our site. I appreciate that you followed my repeated insistence to fit them again, because that is what was suggested to us. The wheels ended up getting scratched as you said (on the second attempt to fit that we did tell you to do), but we still took them back. Normally in this situation we would not have taken them back at all OR given you any store credit. We did both. Please do not feel pressured to get the RS2's, or any product you do not want. Your store credit will not expire.

We want our customers to be satisfied so if you either of you are looking for something additional, let me know and I will give you a killer deal.

Thanks,

Ryan
we both know what the email was..... at the end of the day I will never use a b&g product. and as for gravana I will no longer be working with you.

SUKXOST you have mail!
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we both know what the email was..... at the end of the day I will never use a b&g product. and as for gravana I will no longer be working with you.
I put the thread link and "you're killing me man lol". And that's it. That line was intended as a joke, I should have realized it's difficult to convey tone in emails... Note the "lol."

I'm sorry you feel that way, it truly was not my intention to shove anything in your face. I really did think you would be interested to see/read about it after how long you had been dealing with your car and the coilovers.

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Please take off topic banter to another thread or PM's! This one is for technical info gathering and ideas or solutions. The info is great so far guys...please keep it coming!
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Please take off topic banter to another thread or PM's! This one is for technical info gathering and ideas or solutions. The info is great so far guys...please keep it coming!
Sorry for hijacking your thread, Mike over at B&G is a great guy and will do everything he can to help you out, despite what those have said.

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Originally Posted by laserblue2006
your swaybar endlink is rubbing on the very bottom of your coilover tower....mine did it...i fixed mine...i dont know how you guys supension is setup but is the sway bar mount adjustable?? if so you need to adjust it till it stops....it will be a time consuming process but its what has to be done if the bar mount is adjustable...it has nothing to do with the sway bar stiffness...
in case it got lost in the mindless bickering...
Old 02-20-2009 | 06:01 PM
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sry for jumping off topic. you really should look at the bearing to spring hat fitment. I was getting spring "pop" noise when turning as well. that was do to the fact that the spring hat is to small for the bearing hole which allows to much play and instead of the coilover turning on the bearing its turning the spring which causes noise. no matter how losse or tight you make the spring tension.


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