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Old 01-25-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS 16
Its entertaining how CSS used to ride pedders **** (including the vendors,) always saying its the best spring, etc. etc. now look how times have changed lol

Im still rocking my sportlines (had them on since my car was brand new <1000 miles on it) Still going strong... though i think my shocks are getting tired on them, ride is a bit harsh.. though i think im used to it since it does not bother me at all and I'm pretty pickey

Ive had a couple other cobalt owners ride in my car and they say its pretty comfortable. Drop is nice, though if I were to choose again I would get H&R sports because they drop lower and look great. I'm getting coilovers soon anyways so I dont really care at this point.

Overall, I like the sportlines for their drop and duribility (been trouble free and I daily drive my car - snow, rain, etc.)
It's not entertaining it's a gigantic pita. It was due 100% to complaints from members about Pedders and requests from members on here that we produced a better spring for cobalts. Made in the USA. I have tried Eibachs the ride and performance on track was not as good as stock. The spring rate is less so that's not a big surprise. Enjoy what you have.
Old 01-25-2013, 02:28 PM
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Here's mine on cm springs.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:30 PM
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Low

How many inches did u lower it looks sick!!!!!!!
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Damn what wheels are those??????
Old 01-25-2013, 05:58 PM
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^ Those are the factory ss/na 17's
Old 01-25-2013, 06:27 PM
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ya the rims are stock and the springs said it lowered 1in in the front and 1.5 in the back but i think it lowered a bit more than that.
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its weird how inconsistant the cm springs are, when mine was on them it looked no where as low as yours. you have less wheel gap and your only on 17s

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i agree with you. my friend has the ssc verison and his are alot lower than mine.

The front on my car barely has gap at all. I was surpised. and the rear has 1 1/2 inch gap

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mine still looked like a 4x4 =\
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it doesnt in the pic

before I lowered mine i could put my fist in the gap

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in my eyes it was 4x4. haha, stock was pretty bad, could probably get 2 shoes in the rear.
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when i think of 4x4, i think of trucks. Not cars
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Originally Posted by kzak104
in my eyes it was 4x4. haha, stock was pretty bad, could probably get 2 shoes in the rear.
CM are in your area. Either drive it hard over rough roads ( the springs will sag and drop) or go see them and complain. lol
ps for 150 dollars you cant beat the price. You get what you pay for....
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i will use cm on my next car as well
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
It's not entertaining it's a gigantic pita. It was due 100% to complaints from members about Pedders and requests from members on here that we produced a better spring for cobalts. Made in the USA. I have tried Eibachs the ride and performance on track was not as good as stock. The spring rate is less so that's not a big surprise. Enjoy what you have.
Is it possible to produce springs with a big drop and good performance for these platforms?
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I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS 16
Is it possible to produce springs with a big drop and good performance for these platforms?
v.2 YYZ is as good as it gets. As you drop lower, you simply cant get the rates needed for performance.... and its expensive as heck to do a run of springs. The other thing is, when you drop too much the car crashes into the fender liners, the inner fender upper structure, the cv joints bind, the suspension joints neck out etc.

The grand am race cars were down to 24.5 to the fender at the front, with about half an inch of rake ( 25 at the rear) but the rear was a dropped spindle, and the inner fenders on the race car are removed.

Tire hits the upper inner fender structure at 24.5
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
Tom @CED sent me to Pedders directly, and they did ask for the barcode label the last time I asked for warranty on springs for a customer; these springs were about 8 months old. I gave that info., to them, along with pictures. They did nothing.

Since C_D_88 had issues,must be three years ago now, it continued on and on, Warren Wang was another one later on....and now folks dont want to know about them, and I fit into that group.

In all I was burned for three sets of springs I warranteed, and still have sitting here...Tom@CED ate a set for me, as thats who I was buying them from in the end. But Tom is a stand up guy...and I dont know if Pedders reimbursed him.

In our analysis of brand new latest batch pedders ( last summer) the material they are made on is (how do I say this politely?) less than the best.

Junk.
that's pretty shitty. I'm not a fan boi by any means, but I've been looking into getting into pedders for a while b/c they were the only progressive spring I knew of for our cars. I ******* hate these frankenstein eibachs that I'm on atm....and would really enjoy handling, especially now that i have tires that actually hook now
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
that's pretty shitty. I'm not a fan boi by any means, but I've been looking into getting into pedders for a while b/c they were the only progressive spring I knew of for our cars. I ******* hate these frankenstein eibachs that I'm on atm....and would really enjoy handling, especially now that i have tires that actually hook now
Pedders are NOT progressive. Linear rates front and rear. Softer than stock. The only progressive springs for Cobalt are rear TC OEM and both front and rear YYZ. YYZ are arguably the best spring for performance and handling out there.
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so, stupid question, but why do they consider them "performance" springs then if they're just a softer linear rate than stock? that just seems misleading.
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its true. I wondered why, at the get go they would not reveal spring rates to me when I asked. So I simply rated them myself with our spring rate machine. I have done most of the aftermarket springs out there. Eibach are softer than stock as well.They just collapse under load...lol and feel stiff ( of course)
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im stuck between SSC's and Sportlines cause i want a pretty noticeable drop but at the same time good ride quality
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Then don't get sportlines if you want a good ride lol
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You ever test out H&R John, any opinion on them? Or do they fall into the same sort of category as Sportlines?


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