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qwikredline 05-05-2011 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Wangspeed (Post 5755246)
I know because Riaan and I investigated this months ago. Unfortunately for us, no one is buying them in volume, so we get the big price. You can get AST 5100 with full spring/hat/plates for about $3000 on some other cars like Evos. No discounts for us though.

Iirc, a full setup on our car would be more like $4000.

this is true. But look at mike Kramer just put some old cobalt Ohlins modified to suit his redline and won at VIR (your home track) Shows how important good damping is....

qwikredline 05-05-2011 09:19 PM

triple x all gone more in 2 weeks lol

qwikredline 05-07-2011 06:51 PM

installed mine today. did not crash on the way home. so far, so good.
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/DSCN0369.jpg
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/DSCN0368.jpg

RooTBeeR 05-07-2011 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by qwikredline (Post 5761324)
installed mine today. did not crash on the way home. so far, so good.
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didnt know that you run the stock muffler still too :lol:

will your fancy twisting beam(like will has) not fit on an ion?

Whining-devil 05-07-2011 09:20 PM

i think he has an lnf muffler on there

09sscalicobalt 05-07-2011 09:49 PM

haha i think so too but still saw that and thought that was funny lol

qwikredline 05-08-2011 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Whining-devil (Post 5761533)
i think he has an lnf muffler on there

that one is an LSJ actually. old LNFwas too loud. Going to try an LNF again....

qwikredline 05-08-2011 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by RooTBeeR (Post 5761523)
didnt know that you run the stock muffler still too :lol:

will your fancy twisting beam(like will has) not fit on an ion?

thats a TC twb. Why go to the Time Attack rear beam? too much impact harshness from the sphericals.... I gotta different solution.....not currently made for others...:lol:

RooTBeeR 05-08-2011 10:06 PM

sneaky...whats the blue by the right rear wheel?

BLAZIN07SS 05-08-2011 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by RooTBeeR (Post 5763606)
sneaky...whats the blue by the right rear wheel?

a brake caliper? :lol: :lol: :lol:

jboogie 05-08-2011 10:15 PM

Still wanna know what John is cookin up for rear adjustability!

RooTBeeR 05-08-2011 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS (Post 5763610)
a brake caliper? :lol: :lol: :lol:

figured, but iono never looked ar the rear much lol

Omnigear 05-08-2011 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by qwikredline (Post 5763561)
thats a TC twb. Why go to the Time Attack rear beam? too much impact harshness from the sphericals.... I gotta different solution.....not currently made for others...:lol:

so does that mean it will break the record of the time attack cobalts time at willow with
the setup you are currently building? =p

09sscalicobalt 05-08-2011 10:57 PM

ohh whatever hes doing me want me want lol

whyyoumadson? 05-09-2011 01:47 AM

he building stuff most dont need. some do most dont and just buy it because they think its kool to have.

09sscalicobalt 05-09-2011 02:18 AM

haha all john powell parts are cool to have matt duh lol

RooTBeeR 05-09-2011 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by whyyoumadson? (Post 5764141)
he building stuff most dont need. some do most dont and just buy it because they think its kool to have.

his harness bar and under car rails work wonders on strengthening the whole car

09sscalicobalt 05-09-2011 10:32 AM

which do u think is best bang for buck andrew? im having jpr withdrawals lol

RooTBeeR 05-09-2011 11:26 AM

easiest would be the harness bar, but they both work great esp. together...no more sunroof squeak for me!

IdreamofYenko 05-09-2011 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by RooTBeeR (Post 5764553)
easiest would be the harness bar, but they both work great esp. together...no more sunroof squeak for me!

Ooo I want that even more now. Added perks FTW

RooTBeeR 05-09-2011 03:49 PM

yup that right there tells you that the parts are actually adding strength lol keeping it all stiffer that from the factory

09sscalicobalt 05-09-2011 09:15 PM

haha thank god i dont have a sunroof but ok cool ill prob get that first and then maybe underails werent they a bitch to install?

whyyoumadson? 05-09-2011 10:04 PM

nope none of its hard.

RooTBeeR 05-10-2011 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by 09sscalicobalt (Post 5766623)
haha thank god i dont have a sunroof but ok cool ill prob get that first and then maybe underails werent they a bitch to install?

not too bad if you just want to bolt them on

but to really make them stiff you need to weld them or use lord fusor

BYT*SS*TURBO 05-10-2011 09:19 AM

Ordered one yesterday to test out :)

tylerjclance 05-10-2011 09:19 AM

I like how when I go on Powell's online store there's nothing for cobalts. LOL

G Speed 05-10-2011 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by RooTBeeR (Post 5768296)
not too bad if you just want to bolt them on

but to really make them stiff you need to weld them or use lord fusor

yup... let's just say I'm glad I got John to install my UCR...

He was saying lovely things about the install lol

RooTBeeR 05-10-2011 09:32 AM

...totally worth it, i used my buddy and did it at my work :lol: took us a long ass time though

G Speed 05-10-2011 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by RooTBeeR (Post 5768339)
...totally worth it, i used my buddy and did it at my work :lol: took us a long ass time though

suprisingly does take a long ass time..especially when ur pinch welds are flat to begin with lol

09sscalicobalt 05-10-2011 03:54 PM

haha u welded them on andrew? wtf lol

RooTBeeR 05-10-2011 03:58 PM

hells yeah! my cars stiffer than a pecker in the morning!

G Speed 05-10-2011 04:07 PM

hey guys becareful... I did something stupid a few days ago..

I jacked my car up, using the ucr point... put axel stands underneath on both sides...

Well I was pulling off my right rear tire.. my car moved down a bit? so I'm like what the hell?

Look underneath looks good...

Did my left rear tire.. same thing... so now I double check the stands...

Turns out the rear of the car was about .5 of an inch to high for the axel stand lol

that's how much it stiffens up the car, had to raise the car a bit more.. jut to get the axel stand on the rear to sit lol

qwikredline 05-10-2011 10:33 PM

So its interesting. Now I tried the new XXX bar on the street. Scott Herbert and Slowbalt have reported car handles better in auto x. Slowbalt actually got fastest RAW time last weekend, congrats.

But for the street? Actually the car is really nice on off /on ramps; I gotta couple favesw I like to dick with that are long decreasing radius that can give a fwd fits. Good. very good.

What does happen not so good, is subtle though. "head toss" is one thing; hard sprung cars suffer from that. Thats when you drive down the road and the car reacts to bumps and undulations by a movement that causes your head to "toss" side to side.

and lastly something that happened back in the day with rwd muscle cars that were characteristically undersprung and over bar'd. The big front bar would make the car d dart unnecessarily or behave like it had bump steer on small undulations... only now with this rear bar, its different, the car does it at the rear. very slightly, not alarming, but the first time it does it ,you think "wtf did I run over something?"

Need to drive in wet weather next, but both Scott and Allan are happy.

o
so am I

lol

ps next bar will be candy blue for me...

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/DSCN0368.jpg

qwikredline 05-10-2011 10:36 PM

PS not the thread but UCR'S bonded are the way to fly...unless ur name is Rootbeer and u weld them

68nova200 05-10-2011 10:52 PM

When is there going to be a site to buy all these parts?

CordiaDOHC 05-10-2011 11:03 PM

John your killing me. Im putting money aside for the old new daily and vacation.

you got me wanting to grab the ucr's the harness bar and the xxx bar from you :lol:

And the way you describe the bar makes me think of my old work truck as far as the bumpsteer comment. Ironically I always found it a bit fun when the truck did that :lol:


Keep up the good work man!

ls1fbody 05-10-2011 11:07 PM

1.5" is weak. You need 1.75 ;)

qwikredline 05-10-2011 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC (Post 5771407)
John your killing me. Im putting money aside for the old new daily and vacation.

you got me wanting to grab the ucr's the harness bar and the xxx bar from you :lol:

And the way you describe the bar makes me think of my old work truck as far as the bumpsteer comment. Ironically I always found it a bit fun when the truck did that :lol:


Keep up the good work man!

Thank you. Its fun. Like why else? YOU should see the trick twisting beams I am playing with.... but seriously and frankly I would do UCR and Bar before i did something else, like say.....

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oh well, anything else. :lol:

qwikredline 05-10-2011 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by ls1fbody (Post 5771428)
1.5" is weak. You need 1.75 ;)

still the only one, but if you add the 1.5 and the stock tc weld in, its pretty close to what you got. only the shear point/roll center is different...

Wangspeed 05-11-2011 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by qwikredline (Post 5771302)
What does happen not so good, is subtle though. "head toss" is one thing; hard sprung cars suffer from that. Thats when you drive down the road and the car reacts to bumps and undulations by a movement that causes your head to "toss" side to side.

and lastly something that happened back in the day with rwd muscle cars that were characteristically undersprung and over bar'd. The big front bar would make the car d dart unnecessarily or behave like it had bump steer on small undulations... only now with this rear bar, its different, the car does it at the rear. very slightly, not alarming, but the first time it does it ,you think "wtf did I run over something?"

Tip, get konis for the rear. That problem will go away. The uphill esses @ VIR triggers it quite badly. Totally gone after I got the Konis and saw the shock dyno. Stockers do not have enough low speed rebound.

Looking forward to my bar.


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