Jason,
I think we said we'd develop one if asked. We haven't had any takers yet. 5100s are going to be $3000 for the shocks.

Brian

Just reread the email I got from them a while back,maybe I was mistaken. I assumed that meant everything but springs, but, maybe you guys could give me a better idea of what he meant.

no top hats, no springs thats for sure.

I know because Riaan and I investigated this months ago. Unfortunately for us, no one is buying them in volume, so we get the big price. You can get AST 5100 with full spring/hat/plates for about $3000 on some other cars like Evos. No discounts for us though.

Iirc, a full setup on our car would be more like $4000.

There is such thing as 'good' (relative of course) coilovers for under $2000, and KW makes respected setups. Not everyone needs a set of anze, hotbits, ect (Don't think they make them for these... Used to the Focus), but hugely expensive suspensions unless you are competitively racing which most of the people in Cobalts aren't. Cheap and coilovers don't usually go good together like ksport, d2, and stuff like that.

the only GOOD set of coilovers kw makes for the cobalt are the variant 2 and if they make a higher version and thats it. the 1 is just as good as everything else. usually no if coilovers are under 2k they are crap and thats the end of this. the focus and the cobalt are totally different cars and theres no comparison in other then the fact they are both front drivers but the suspensions are COMPLETELY different. the fact that most of these companies use higher rates up front then is the back is some serious fail.

stance/hsd makes about the only decent street coilover and even then i wouldnt call it a street/track setup. adding a higher spring rate out back i dont think is good either. they were hesitant when i asked about it which makes me think its only going to work for a short amount of time before they need to be gone through.

this is true. But look at mike Kramer just put some old cobalt Ohlins modified to suit his redline and won at VIR (your home track) Shows how important good damping is....

triple x all gone more in 2 weeks lol

installed mine today. did not crash on the way home. so far, so good.
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didnt know that you run the stock muffler still too :lol:

will your fancy twisting beam(like will has) not fit on an ion?

i think he has an lnf muffler on there

haha i think so too but still saw that and thought that was funny lol

that one is an LSJ actually. old LNFwas too loud. Going to try an LNF again....

thats a TC twb. Why go to the Time Attack rear beam? too much impact harshness from the sphericals.... I gotta different solution.....not currently made for others...:lol:

sneaky...whats the blue by the right rear wheel?

a brake caliper? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still wanna know what John is cookin up for rear adjustability!

figured, but iono never looked ar the rear much lol

so does that mean it will break the record of the time attack cobalts time at willow with
the setup you are currently building? =p

ohh whatever hes doing me want me want lol

he building stuff most dont need. some do most dont and just buy it because they think its kool to have.

haha all john powell parts are cool to have matt duh lol

his harness bar and under car rails work wonders on strengthening the whole car

which do u think is best bang for buck andrew? im having jpr withdrawals lol

easiest would be the harness bar, but they both work great esp. together...no more sunroof squeak for me!

Ooo I want that even more now. Added perks FTW