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Old 09-23-2014 | 05:16 PM
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Moog K200972 does fit PERFECTLY!
Old 09-23-2014 | 05:38 PM
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Moog K200972 does fit PERFECTLY!
Do you happen to have a review?
Old 09-23-2014 | 06:34 PM
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I am gonna drive it now! LOL! Finally Finished!
Old 09-23-2014 | 06:59 PM
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Update Reviews! They feel exactly the same as POWELL'S! The question is how long the rubber boot will last compare to Powell's. The driving turning and etc...felt excatly like Powell's without a doubt! I was surprised that I spent only $55 bucks included discount from Advance Auto. I can say it's worth it as for now until I see the rubber boot ?...I will have to wait and how long ?...
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:14 AM
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Update Reviews! They feel exactly the same as POWELL'S! The question is how long the rubber boot will last compare to Powell's. The driving turning and etc...felt excatly like Powell's without a doubt! I was surprised that I spent only $55 bucks included discount from Advance Auto. I can say it's worth it as for now until I see the rubber boot ?...I will have to wait and how long ?...
How many miles you at? Was the control arm very bad? Did you use a press or some tool to press the old out and new in?
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:18 AM
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I got OTTP CAB in January then it went bad and replaced to Moog K200972 yesterday. Yes, I took it to press shop and they said it was pressed in perfectly.
Old 09-24-2014 | 01:36 PM
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Here's OTTP CAB, it's really bad.






Here's new Moog K200972 installed.
Old 09-24-2014 | 01:37 PM
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What do you guys do to these things?

I had like 70k on my car and read these posts about how these always go bad.
I swapped my arms because if it and they came out in fine shape and they were OEM LSJ
Old 09-24-2014 | 01:53 PM
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I drive normal and my home roads are terrible and bumpy that people don't wanna pay tax increase to fix the roads. So, instead they fill the holes on the roads to cover it. That's why it's beaten up my CAB like ****!
Old 09-24-2014 | 02:10 PM
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ill have to put these on my list of things to do lol
Old 09-24-2014 | 03:11 PM
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What do you guys do to these things?

I had like 70k on my car and read these posts about how these always go bad.
I swapped my arms because if it and they came out in fine shape and they were OEM LSJ
Florida vs. Ohio, that's the difference. Salt and crap. I'm assuming my arms are fine. Hope it doesn't go bad when I go to remove.
Old 09-24-2014 | 03:13 PM
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What's the difference between ottp's and moogs?
Old 09-24-2014 | 03:15 PM
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Did you read the reviews ?
Old 09-24-2014 | 03:17 PM
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OTTP CAB is alright at 1st then it started slowly falling apart. When it's brand new it will drive straight then when it's falling apart it will be sloppy. That's my honest experienced with OTTP CAB.
Old 09-24-2014 | 04:32 PM
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What's the difference between ottp's and moogs?
moog's appear to have a wider and more durable bushing and appear to be stainless steel ball joints where as OTTP's are not.
Old 09-24-2014 | 09:38 PM
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moog's appear to have a wider and more durable bushing and appear to be stainless steel ball joints where as OTTP's are not.
OTT is the usual. i have mine and the Moog apart and its not stainless, its low grade low finish material.
I did the magnet test right now just for you, Spawne32. lol

There is a pocket in the Moog that the ball joint plastic outer bearing can collapse . It is interesting, as I have never had one of mine come back for warranty since 2004 we have been using them. The difference in material is quite apparent compared to the Moog; my wall thickness of the center ball joint is double the Moog for example, and its chrome steel, but at that Moog price point its hard to argue.

It is our intention to offer complete arms pre-assembled, if we can find a decent price point to come up with. Our joints are OEM spec,not aftermarket and that is why the durability is there. The application originally designed was for a high torque/ high horsepower cross axis ball joint applications.

I suspect over time the Moog outer plastic cover will yield like I find in the drop links but ya never know. And for sure, when it comes to price it is a question of quality and how the market reacts to that.
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zinc plated by chance on the moog?
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
What do you guys do to these things?

I had like 70k on my car and read these posts about how these always go bad.
I swapped my arms because if it and they came out in fine shape and they were OEM LSJ
Power and sticky tires will kill them too. I was having issues back in the day before we had rotated mounts and spherical joints, I blew through a couple sets of poly cabs until I made my own spherical joints. Not a single problem after that. IIRC I paid almost $80 for the bearings themselves, plus I manufactured the housings myself. Back then Powell didn't sell them separately though. He told me to make my own
Old 09-25-2014 | 08:43 AM
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zinc plated by chance on the moog?
doesnt look like it. I will send you pictures if you email me. I have not had a chance to upload to photobucket yet, and I am off to NY in a few minutes on a trans and parts run
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Power and sticky tires will kill them too. I was having issues back in the day before we had rotated mounts and spherical joints, I blew through a couple sets of poly cabs until I made my own spherical joints. Not a single problem after that. IIRC I paid almost $80 for the bearings themselves, plus I manufactured the housings myself. Back then Powell didn't sell them separately though. He told me to make my own
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